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03-03-2014, 10:26 PM
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I thought Kesler didn't want to come here.

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Gaborik is done, anyone who is in support of moving assets for him is living in the past.
I said nothing of moving assets for him. Just posed a question and made a statement.

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I don't want to trade guys for St. Louis. Callahan straight up, I guess, but I'd prefer we leveraged him for picks and prospects.

Bringing in a 39 year old, even like St. Louis, unless it's for nearly free, is stupid.

He's inevitably going to decline soon. I'd prefer not to see that happen in a Rangers uniform.

If he's cheap, sure. But i'm not trading assets for this guy. That's not how you build a winner. I've said it a thousand times and this weekend was further proof, we are not yet contenders and getting St. Louis, in my opinion, does not make us one.
Depends on who those guys are. Callahan, I want gone at all costs. I never thought I'd say that and it'd come to this, but the idea of re-signing Callahan longterm makes me want to hurl. St. Louis would be a big upgrade over Callahan, without the loss of the heart-and-soul intangibles and would make us instantly better.


And why will he inevitably decline? Because he's getting older? Well, he looks pretty good to me. Furthermore, he's a FA after next year so if he does, we can just let him walk.

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I thought Kesler didn't want to come here.
Apparently he and AV do not see eye to eye.

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I said nothing of moving assets for him. Just posed a question and made a statement.
I know, just saying.

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03-03-2014, 10:28 PM
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The trade deadline isn't even over for Buffalo, and they project to be 20 million under the salary cap floor next season.

Let's hope Ryan Callahan's camp is willing to go UFA, as there is one hell of a blank check awaiting upstate.
Watch they wind up giving him 7.5M

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Apparently he and AV do not see eye to eye.
So an trade for him is moot.

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Ryan Kesler is not a player I would break the bank for. Rangers traded their 1st and 2nd last year. They need to hold on to this year's higher end picks. Would have to be a hell of a deal for us to move those picks.

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XXX here we come!

Which fits perfectly, because we're all about to be ****ed if Callahan is signed.

Seriously, 6x6 is already approaching extreme overpayment. Sather says he won't budge off that? I call bs. Rangers need to do the right thing and trade him.
If it's 6x6 I'm going to google maps the nearest bridge.

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So an trade for him is moot.
It's moot to begin with with his injury history and the asking price, IMO. I think whichever team acquires him will regret it, outside of Pittsburgh.

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But everyone would agree that Brassard and Callahan for Kesler would be fair, right?

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But everyone would agree that Brassard and Callahan for Kesler would be fair, right?
that basically becomes Brassard for Kesler, dont think that gets it done. but then again Sutter and a 1st is just as bad.

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But everyone would agree that Brassard and Callahan for Kesler would be fair, right?
Highway robbery for the Rangers.

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Not sure if it's out there or not, but told Callahan's latest offer was 6-years at $6.3M per season. Rangers declined, set on 6/$6M per


So THIS is what Sather is stingy about? I'm seriously getting *** nauseous reading all this. Please just trade him.

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I'd definitely kick the tires on Spezza if he was available..

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that basically becomes Brassard for Kesler, dont think that gets it done. but then again Sutter and a 1st is just as bad.
What if he signs an extension with them?

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If Boston adds Gaborik and Pitt adds Kesler, does anyone think this team has a legit shot?

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Highway robbery for the Rangers.
I don't see why. Brassard has only 3 less points than Kesler

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David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 16m
Not sure if it's out there or not, but told Callahan's latest offer was 6-years at $6.3M per season. Rangers declined, set on 6/$6M per


So THIS is what Sather is stingy about? I'm seriously getting *** nauseous reading all this. Please just trade him.
good, I'm glad he's being stingy about it. 6M is already gross overpayment.

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If Boston adds Gaborik and Pitt adds Kesler, does anyone think this team has a legit shot?
Gaborik does not scare me at all.

Kesler to Pittsburgh, yeah, that scares me. They'd have Crosby/Malkin and a legit shutdown line.

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But everyone would agree that Brassard and Callahan for Kesler would be fair, right?
Canucks don't take it, no. They want a 20-25 year old that can take about 18 minutes a night, top forward prospect and a 1st. Cally wouldn't resign, and they wouldn't trade Kesler for Brassard and a rental.

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If Boston adds Gaborik and Pitt adds Kesler, does anyone think this team has a legit shot?
Nope.

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Gaborik does not scare me at all.

Kesler to Pittsburgh, yeah, that scares me. They'd have Crosby/Malkin and a legit shutdown line.
Gaborik gives them ANOTHER highly effective goal scorer. Marchand, Lucic, Iginla, Eriksson, Reilly, Gaborik. Bergeron and Kreijci on the wing. That team would scare me over a 7 game series.

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If Boston adds Gaborik and Pitt adds Kesler, does anyone think this team has a legit shot?
Not a prayer.

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Gaborik gives them ANOTHER highly effective goal scorer. Marchand, Lucic, Iginla, Eriksson, Reilly, Gaborik. Bergeron and Kreijci on the wing. That team would scare me over a 7 game series.
Did we time travel to 2012? Gaborik isn't effective at all anymore.

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