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02-28-2014, 01:50 PM
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Thinking about replacing my 5+ years old Graf 709s, size 6. I know I was properly sized and I've had no problems with them playing consistently 2-3 times per week. No blisters, no lace bite, nothing. But the one thing I've realized is that my toes have never come close to touching the front of the boot. And I always struggle with tightening my laces just right. I have to use minimal force on the middle laces or my feet cramp up.

I have small feet with high arches and based on the 709 description, I have "wide thick feet." I never would have thought that, I guess it's in context of the length.

If I remember correctly, either the 5.5 Grafs weren't in stock or the salesperson said that getting the length correct would lead to an instep that was too shallow and that would be the worse of two evils. I think it was the latter.

So I'm wondering if pursuing new skates would lead to an improvement. I'm not looking to drop a ton of money just for the sake of something new. I'm generally a strong skater but with all the attention aimed at skate size, I'm wondering how skates that are too long might be affecting me.

After researching online though, if my instep is so unusually deep for my foot size, then Grafs seem to be the deepest. Am I right about that? Maybe this is the skate for me?

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02-28-2014, 03:30 PM
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Well, keep in mind that Graf has many different types of fit and the challenge nowadays with their business failing is finding the exact line, model, size and width (imagine the confusion!) in stock at stores who no longer carry full line Graf!

It sounds like you were not presented with other skates and fits in 5.5 besides Graf? In that case, the best thing to do is to try on different models and see what fits your foot now. Perhaps Bauer Supreme or Nexus, or CCM.

Having skates that are too long run the risk of excess space, which in turn risks abrasion and loss of control.

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02-28-2014, 05:55 PM
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Just got the RS's. They fit like a glove.

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Just got the RS's. They fit like a glove.
My thoughts exactly...
Planned on spending 200, tried vapors(too narrow toebox), supremes(too wide) grafs (decent fit-QC), rbz (too deep)....
Had the one.7's on, but really didn't want to spend 359 on a skate that worried me....I didn't care that the RS was 399 once I tried them on!

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Took my skates out for stick and puck today. Only issue with them is my right foot was getting squeezed around the instep pretty badly. I know eventually they'll stretch out a bit, as I had the same issue with my supremes too (again, right foot only) and now they're extremely comfortable. Is there any thing I can do to speed up the process? I had them baked, would it be worth doing it again?

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03-01-2014, 12:58 PM
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Took my skates out for stick and puck today. Only issue with them is my right foot was getting squeezed around the instep pretty badly. I know eventually they'll stretch out a bit, as I had the same issue with my supremes too (again, right foot only) and now they're extremely comfortable. Is there any thing I can do to speed up the process? I had them baked, would it be worth doing it again?
Maybe wear them around the house. Yes, you can get them baked again. I baked my skates twice, but I think 2 times is the limit or maybe 3? Is there instructions on the box?

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Took my skates out for stick and puck today. Only issue with them is my right foot was getting squeezed around the instep pretty badly. I know eventually they'll stretch out a bit, as I had the same issue with my supremes too (again, right foot only) and now they're extremely comfortable. Is there any thing I can do to speed up the process? I had them baked, would it be worth doing it again?
Like all skates, it took a couple of laps to figure out the tightness I wanted with my RS, and I prefer a lil looser in the midfoot.
No issues since.
Did you try and change the arch pad?

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Like all skates, it took a couple of laps to figure out the tightness I wanted with my RS, and I prefer a lil looser in the midfoot.
No issues since.
Did you try and change the arch pad?
I took the super feet out of my supremes and put them in the RS's, which is why I'm pretty sure it's the width and not the arch support

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I took the super feet out of my supremes and put them in the RS's, which is why I'm pretty sure it's the width and not the arch support
Like I said earlier, I had 0ne.7's on, and they were a bit too wide for me, I found the RS perfect.

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I'm starting to look at skate prices and noticed that prices for junior skates are quite a bit less than senior skates. If I'm truly a size 5.5 (junior), does this difference in price imply a difference in quality? Or do I just luck out with the price dynamics for junior skates?

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Junior skates typically are missing a few extra features. Great value though if you're deciding between a 5.5 and a 6.

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Just bought a pair of CCM u+ 12 on sale for $250 baked and sharpened. They are by far the best skates to date. Even better than the first year the Reebok 9k pumps came out.

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Hi all,

I have a problem with my skates. Right heel lifts. I hope you can help me.
I have Vapor APX in size 6ee. But may be fit is not good. pencil test fail on both skates (from 3rd starting from the toe).
Also I have Totalone NXG 6EE size. Absolutely the same problem. Baking does not help.

Please help me with advice which skate I should try. Have only possibility to order a few pairs.

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Is heel lift the only issue? Why do you think your heel is lifting? Is it due to negative space around the ankle?

I need more info than that man, come on...

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Yes, I can feel that whole foot is more free than left one.
I have arch bones, they are different and may be its the reason. also with left foot I can brush the front, with right one not really.

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may be thats because of lack of volume. totalone also fails the test with pencil.
I have ordered RBZ with size 5.5D and nexus 6D. Reebok I dont like because of this pump.

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OK, well since you've already ordered the skates, I guess there isn't much else to say until you've tried them on.

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Yes, I can feel that whole foot is more free than left one.
I have arch bones, they are different and may be its the reason. also with left foot I can brush the front, with right one not really.
That's actually quite common. Most people have one foot about 1/4 to 1/2 size bigger in terms of width, length or both. I just tie my right skate differently.

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I have precisely measured my feet. They look the same. No visible change in length or width. I can post some photos if it helps.
Im very upset with 2 pairs of skates (huge amount of money), none of them work for me.
I had Bauer Vapor X50 Sr. size 6EE. One season they were perfect, then right heel start to lift. I thought thats because of the crack on a boot. I got APX and after very short time heel starts to lift again.
And its really change the game. Im skating like cripple now.

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OK, well since you've already ordered the skates, I guess there isn't much else to say until you've tried them on.
No, please, Im open for your suggestions. What else could work for me? Graf? Easton? if yes what size it must be?

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some quick photos.

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some photos
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Like I said before, and there's a reason why I said it, you need to try them on first.

You could also order a pair of these: http://stable26.com/shop/hockey/ and use on for your foot with the heel lock issues. The pads in them take up negative space around your ankles and above your heel, and is supposed to help lock it in. I've tried them on, but since my skates fit me and I have no problem with heel lock, I could only feel the extra pads. I believe this product is more of a solution to a sub-par fit and in your case, poor heel lock.

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Thanks.
Of course I will try them first. Actually, may be you would say something about other skate models, sizes or something. Because somehow with totalone I feel much less stable despite really good heel-lock. They just behave strange for me.
I have tried different pads, but I cannot feel the edge and its very bad for me.

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Thanks.
Of course I will try them first. Actually, may be you would say something about other skate models, sizes or something. Because somehow with totalone I feel much less stable despite really good heel-lock. They just behave strange for me.
I have tried different pads, but I cannot feel the edge and its very bad for me.
There's no point at this time until you try them and give better feedback...

I'm not here to fit you...

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