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Should Marc Bergevin pull a Lou Lamoriello?

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03-13-2014, 04:47 PM
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How bad is this team since a couple of months well They were 19-9-3 when they face LA on dec. 10 and lost 6-0, since then they play .500 hockey...

16-16-4 GF 82 GA 105 diff -23

That's just ****ing disgusting, MT should have been fired a month ago...
How is that disgusting? He is coaching a team that includes Gionta, Brière, Moen, Murray, Bouillon, etc etc.

I'll agree that his management of some players (Subban, Desharnais, Eller, etc) is pissing me off, but when the season started I never expected this team to be much more than a 6th-8th seed in the east...

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What do you guys think about a dude called Peter Laviolette ?

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03-13-2014, 04:49 PM
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What do you guys think about a dude called Peter Laviolette ?
good coach but will never ever even be considered in Montreal.

il ne parle pas francais

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03-13-2014, 04:50 PM
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How is that disgusting? He is coaching a team that includes Gionta, Brière, Moen, Murray, Bouillon, etc etc.

I'll agree that his management of some players (Subban, Desharnais, Eller, etc) is pissing me off, but when the season started I never expected this team to be much more than a 6th-8th seed in the east...
Of the guy you named, only one is in the top6 FWD/ top 4 D. We also have Plekanec, Pacioretty, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Subban, Markov, Price etc...

It's also not like Moen is a bad 4th liner or Murray a bad #6th D.

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good coach but will never ever even be considered in Montreal.
If he changed his name to Pierre and spoke French then maybe.

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03-13-2014, 04:53 PM
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good coach but will never ever even be considered in Montreal.

il ne parle pas francais
" typical montreal"

( sorry I could not resist)

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03-13-2014, 04:54 PM
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Was guy boucher coach of hamilton when PK was there? and what other habs were dogs when he was at the helm in hamilton?

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03-13-2014, 04:55 PM
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" typical montreal"

( sorry I could not resist)
no need to be sorry. Its the reality of this province. Language will trump what is best for the team or for the public in general.

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03-13-2014, 04:56 PM
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Was guy boucher coach of hamilton when PK was there? and what other habs were dogs when he was at the helm in hamilton?
DD, patch and white

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While I agree that Therrien is a problem, I'm not convinced Boucher is the solution.

I am in the camp that feels the team wins in spite of Therrien instead of because of him.

What am I most in favor of? A coaching staff that includes Larry Robinson (in ANY capacity).
Agreed, is this really what we want in Montreal...
http://youtu.be/nhsJilBgF84

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Agreed, is this really what we want in Montreal...
http://youtu.be/nhsJilBgF84
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no need to be sorry. Its the reality of this province. Language will trump what is best for the team or for the public in general.
no this was from the first " behind the boards" series that aired on HBO, I think when the flyers played the pens. In one of the preceeding games the laviolette led flyers played the habs in montreal and a couple of calls went against the flyers and after a rant complaining about the injustice of it all in between periods, Laviolette summed it up with " typical montreal"

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6 points back and needing 5 teams to pass you is not close with 15 games left.

It's not 3 teams because a lot of teams in the list if they get hot they will end up in the Metro top 3 and not the 2 wild cards. The only Atlantic team that can jump in is Detroit. Buffalo Ottawa(pretty much)and Florida are done. Even if 2-3 Metro teams get hot they will join their "top 3" as most of the Metro is behind Boston TB Toronto and Montreal.
you know the 5 teams we're talking about have MORE than 15 games remaining right ?

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This forum has become unreadable. Well done.
Right,

Everyone's a sheep because they don't like a coach who plays freaking Francis Bouillion for 20+ mins and on the PP. And everyone's a sheep because they look at Murray (an absolutely dreadful blueliner both statistically and visually) and criticize the coach for relying on him so heavily. The benching of our Norris winner, the calling out players publicly and throwing them under the bus (which you won't even acknowledge has even happened), the unjustified favouritism, the team's terrible overall play (which again you can't seem to acknowledge)...

You are in some kind of weird bubble. Our coach sucks. It's okay to admit it... he does. You don't need to come here and play devil's advocate on everything. Just acknowledge the obvious and stop trying to convince us that water isn't wet. It is wet and our coach sucks.

I don't give a **** what anyone says... this roster is better than what we've seen - which is a team being carried by its star goalie. Up until now all we heard was "look at the standings" well how's that looking now that Price is out? We're in serious danger of missing the playoffs and with this roster, in this conference that is absolutely unacceptable - esp with Vanek being here now. And the coach should be removed ASAP.

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03-13-2014, 06:06 PM
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Lou Lamoriello fired Claude Julien 3 games before the playoffs back in 2007.

I think Marc Bergevin should do the same thing.


Michel Therrien has clearly lost the room and he is ruining subban.

JJ Daigneault should get the boot too.

What do you think?
Sure, but 3 games before the playoffs is too late. Bergevin has to find someone tonight or tomorrow.

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How is that disgusting? He is coaching a team that includes Gionta, Brière, Moen, Murray, Bouillon, etc etc.

I'll agree that his management of some players (Subban, Desharnais, Eller, etc) is pissing me off, but when the season started I never expected this team to be much more than a 6th-8th seed in the east...
You talk about the problem directly in your second paragraph, every team has lower rank players, the problem isnt that we have those players its how Therrien is choosing to use those players. Bouillon played 24 mins yesterday, 24 friggin minutes, with who ? Norris Subban. A child could see how wrong that is.

Fire the clown.

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03-13-2014, 06:19 PM
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no need to be sorry. Its the reality of this province. Language will trump what is best for the team or for the public in general.
Of course, because we know "french" people are all incompetant and have their jobs because of some affirmative action granted by the anglos...

FFS, we're talking about one coach, can we leave the "language issue" out of this and stop with the discriminatory comments ?

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03-13-2014, 06:20 PM
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yup, exactly... buddy buddies... would you fire your buddy? honestly? cammonnn

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Of course, because we know "french" people are all incompetant and have their jobs because of some affirmative action granted by the anglos...

FFS, we're talking about one coach, can we leave the "language issue" out of this and stop with the discriminatory comments ?
No we can't, because it IS an issue.. not an issue made by anglophones but made so by francophones, who discriminated against having an English-only speaking coach in some kind of bizarre idea of equality.

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you know the 5 teams we're talking about have MORE than 15 games remaining right ?
Played against each other though. It's not as if all of these teams can get 30 points. They will lose to each other.

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Not a good idea and it rarely works. The Devils were the exception, not the rule. Therrien needs to exit in the off season. It'll be easier to replace him with a stable solution then.

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03-13-2014, 06:33 PM
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Us: "The team has had a .500 record for over 85% of the season"

You: "Cherry picking only the .500 games!!!!"
You really just don't get it do you? You are cherry picking our best stretch of 9 games and saying we are a bad team otherwise. Let's pick our WORST stretch of 9 games (going 2-7), oh look, now we are 33-18-7 and on pace for 103 points. The only reason you CHERRY PICK those games is to prove your "point".

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Every close competitor has 1-2 games in hand. If they go .500 during those games, they are at:
TB: 77 pts
NYR:75pts
CBJ: 75 pts
Phi: 75 pts
Det: 73 pts

TB only needs to get 1 points more than us in 15 games. NYR,CBJ and Phi need only 3 points and Detroit 5 pts. And this is assuming they don't win all their games in hand.

Even the Devils and the Sens can catch us if the habs continue playing like they did the last 3 games. Especially if Bouillon plays 24 mins a game.
Yes, and teams like Detroit (no Dats or Zetterburg) and TBay (no MSL and Bishop has been brutal since the break) are playing no better than us right now. I know the sky is falling in Montreal so its hard to see the rest of the world, but maybe some people should just take a deep breath.

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03-13-2014, 06:37 PM
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They also had a stretch where they only won 2 of 9 games. So if you take that out they are on pace for like 105 points.
Remove both those extreme and you remain exactly where people keep saying we've been, at .500.

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