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Rate The Captains Leadership This Season...

View Poll Results: Rate Jason Smith's Leadership This Season...
(A) 90%+ 8 17.78%
(B) 80-89% 11 24.44%
(C) 70-79% 6 13.33%
(D) 60-69% 10 22.22%
(F) 0-59% 10 22.22%
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02-21-2007, 01:26 AM
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Rate The Captains Leadership This Season...

I figured that it'd be only fair to throw Gators name to the Lions after I did so with mac-T.

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How can we rate something that we can't see or hear?

We're not in the dressing room, nor on the bench.

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How can we rate something that we can't see or hear?

We're not in the dressing room, nor on the bench.
On ice product??? Taking charge of the team on the ice by standing up for teammates, leading by example???

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I can't really vote for this because I'm not present in the locker room nor in practice. I also think Smith gets a bum wrap.


I will say that I did find it interestnig when ESPN's player survey at the All-Star game had numerous players pick Jason Smith as being a good candidate for becoming a head coach in his future.

The Captain can only do so much when it comes to on ice product (if a teammate is in a slump, he can't just snap his fingers and make it better). Given the response of the team when rumours were circulating that Smyth was being offered the captaincy, I am inclined to believe that the players on the team respect Smith as a captain. And that's all that really matters IMO. Personally I think people overrate the little letter stitched onto the sweater. If a player is a leader, he's a leader. He doesn't need a letter on his jersey. I'm not a fan of removing it from a player, unless that player concedes it.

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A.

Jason Smith is doing everything he can for this team and then some.

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I agree with alanschu. I won't rate this because how can we tell what's going on in the dressing room or on the bench? The on-ice product is not a way to rate a team's leadership. If your goalie has a bad game and gives up 4 goals - is that the captain's fault for not leading? If you throw 4 kids out there on defense and surprise, surprise, they don't match up against the Sakic's or the Zubov's of the world - is that the Captain's fault? No imo.

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I figured that it'd be only fair to throw Gators name to the Lions after I did so with mac-T.

Smith is not the only leader on his team... and im not about to vote on something we only can see 10% of...

i have a suggestion.. if you want us to be able to vote on something we could actually answer with some stint of accuracy, i suggest making a poll on what we think of your threads

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Please tell me this is the end of the rate threads, why are we collecting useless information.

Edit: Most grade are going to be C, as this was an average season.


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How can we rate something that we can't see or hear?

We're not in the dressing room, nor on the bench.

It's called leading by example. DUH!
And with that in mind, I'm glad to see I was with the majority (at least so far) in giving him a failing D grade.

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Another stupid poll?

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It's called leading by example. DUH!
Such as doing what?

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And with that in mind, I'm glad to see I was with the majority (at least so far) in giving him a failing D grade.
And this grade is based on what?

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Such as doing what?

And this grade is based on what?

Such as not flat-out sucking for a massive chunk of the season.
Based on what? Well gee, could it be the face that he hasn't led by example for much of the season.
Isn't that what my whole post alluded to?
Could it be he spent a large amount of the season not being physical, coughing the puck up, being mediocre defensively??? Or would that make too much sense?

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It's called leading by example. DUH!
And with that in mind, I'm glad to see I was with the majority (at least so far) in giving him a failing D grade.
Multiple problems with this

1.. Poll question doesn't actually ask the question you answered..

2.. Sports team leadership is by committee where each individual contributes in his own way..

3.. The Oilers players think he's a good captain.. where does your judgement rank in reality?

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Such as not flat-out sucking for a massive chunk of the season.
Based on what? Well gee, could it be the face that he hasn't led by example for much of the season.
Isn't that what my whole post alluded to?
Could it be he spent a large amount of the season not being physical, coughing the puck up, being mediocre defensively??? Or would that make too much sense?
Again, what is leading by example?

You managed to duck that question by throwing a bunch of random **** against the wall.

He's been our best defenceman over the course of the whole year. He's gotten nothing but the tough matchups, and despite playing for a team that has issues scoring, he's managed to keep his goal differential numbers at a respectably level.

And all the guy does is go out and play his ass off to win games. He hits, he blocks shots, he stands up for his teammates, he takes responsiblity for when things don't go well when he's on the ice.

That's all leading by example in my books...or does that make too much sense?

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Since when is leading by example the best type of leadership?

In my Psychology of Leisure class, I learnt the most effective leader is a courageous leader.

That means that someone like Daniel Alfredsson may score lots of points, so in theory it's leading by example, but what does that really have to do with leadership?

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Since when is leading by example the best type of leadership?

In my Psychology of Leisure class, I learnt the most effective leader is a courageous leader.

That means that someone like Daniel Alfredsson may score lots of points, so in theory it's leading by example, but what does that really have to do with leadership?
Did your class teach you that different forms of leadership are required in different situations? Ie. Situational Leadership

Not being an ###, just honestly wondering if that fit the context of your class.

It's pretty obvious to me that the GM of the Edmonton Oilers managment requires different leadership style from the captain of the on ice team.

And a veteran laden squad will also require a different leader compared to a rookie laden squad.

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02-21-2007, 12:55 PM
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This is a pretty dumb topic. So if we have a ****** team we blame the leadership for this "on-ice product".

And if we get lidstrom and crosby in the off-season and win the presidents trophy, it's all due to the "leadership" and "on-ice" example by the captain.

We suck, and it's not Jason's fault.

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So if I asked this poll question after the playoff run he would have got a A+

Now he gets a D.

This poll is useless!

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