Calgary winters are nothing close to mild. The community i live is ****ed come winter time. The people that live across the street from me had to shovel their garage out, Yes, i said shovel out their ****ing garage.
Did you suggest they close the door?
This winter got off to a snow-filled start, as did the rest of the country, but look at all the previous years. I can have my summer car out all the time in the winter here.
There is a huge hate for Toronto in this city though. However, that's a one-way rivalry, because no one in Toronto cares about Vancouver in that way.
Originally Posted by Fairweather
This is something that Toronto posters on HFBoards are eager to remind everyone as often as possible. That they Absolutely don't care about Vancouver.
actually, the same seems to hold true off the internet. i lived in toronto and was there for the 2011 cup run. never saw a city put so much effort into "not caring" about the canucks-- people were buying freakin' bruins jerseys...
One thing I've noticed from living in both Vancouver and Alberta a lot is that the average Canucks fan doesn't really have the same hate for the Alberta teams as they do for the Canucks and each other.
Its because teams generally have to be good to be hated. When I was growing up in the 80s, the Nucks were an insignificant little team that posed no threat. The Flames on the other hand were a heated rival that I hated passionately.
Now I dont really hate the Flames, since they suck as much as my Oilers do. Both Oiler and Flames fans have hated the Nucks for the past few years when they were a contending team, but I can feel my hate for the Nucks wane, as they slowly slide out of contention and watch their window close.
So right now I dont hate any Canadian team. Winnipeg's no good either, so they arent worth hate. The only decent Canadian teams are in the east, and I dont care about eastern teams.
Toronto hates Montreal, and vice versa because of course as is tradition.
Toronto and Ottawa hate each other because, divisional rivals, in the same province, with 4 playoff series in what was it 5 years?
Edmonton-Calgary, both from Alberta, have a long established hatred for decades now.
Vancouver-Everyone: Their fans seem to relish in the misery of all the other Canadian teams, so equally **** them
Winnipeg-Everyone- They're weird, they've only been back for a few seasons now, and have not been in the same division as the other canadian teams, also for 2 seasons they were in the East, and now they're in the west so they haven't had time to develop a rivalry with anyone else. That said their fans seem to hate everyone not named the Jets. They boo every captain, everyone. It's very one sided though I think, I don't know if any other canadian fans hate the Jets, I think we're all still happy they got their team back and wish them good luck.
Out west, Vancouver, Edmonton and Calgary hate each other horribly.
But the hate between Edmonton and Calgary when we were both good made for some of the most entertaining hockey ever.
Yeah, I feel sorry for fans who werent around for the 80s Battle of Alberta. Some of the most talented and tough players in the league all within 2.5 hours of each other.
Originally Posted by CHill Seeker
everybody hates Toronto
Do they? I dont. I'm indifferent to them.
I dont really understand the hate. They arent that great of a team. they sucked, then built themselves to become a playoff team. Its not like they just bought their success like they tried to pre-cap. They are a decent team thats not overly dirty, whiney or divey. At least not more than most other teams.
As for the fans, most of them have watched every other Canadian team succeed more than their team in their lifetime, so any fan obnoxiousness is kind of quaint, becasue they have nothing tangible to back it up. But they are a loyal patient bunch and understand and love the game.
As for the media, TSN has been called the Toronto Sports Network, but if you have a problem with that, go to one of the other numerous sports websites for your news. And its not like TSN is going to be the go-to for NHL anymore. And if you are sick of the Leafs getting stuck down your throat every saturday, maybe you should get Center Ice. Or watch the other game on the double header.
Maybe its just me, but I really dont get it.
Edit: This is from a Western perspective though. I understand why Habs or Sens fans would hate
@ the poster who suggested that the Toronto-Montreal rivalry is media-generated. That's false. There's so many transplants between the two cities that make for the rivalry.
Geographically-close. Rival cities culturally, economically and politically resulting in Ottawa becoming the capital. Lingual reasons as well. French is hardly spoken in Toronto despite being mandatory from grade 4 - 9 and being part of the same transport corridor.
Ottawa is sort of like the border between Montreal and Toronto. There's a lot more French elements over there. For that reason, I could see why they dislike both cities.
2. Detroit ( 90s, etc)
3. Ottawa( 2000s)
5. Boston ( not really a rivalry, but could develop into one)
I personally don't care about other teams and can't see most Torontonians being different. Having spent a lot of time in the city, I knew scores of people who have never been to Vancouver, but been to the North-East American cities ( i.e. Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Chicago, NYC, etc) and the Caribbean nations SEVERAL times*. I'm thinking, maybe we need another team in the Toronto area or at least Hamilton to spice things up.
- Should include Los Angeles, Las Vegas. Must admit, Calgary, Vancouver and Winnipeg are nice cities, while Edmonton has an interesting mall. Worth visiting even though US is more cost-effective!
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As a leafs fan, I'm kind of indifferent towards the sens. I don't hate them, I just don't really care about them. Montreal I have a strong, hateful respect for.
It's like Montreal and Toronto are brothers that are always trying to be better than the other, wanna beat them every time more than any other game. Ottawa is like the little brother of both teams. Kind of annoying, think that they're on the level of Montreal Toronto in terms of rivalry but they're not.
To me, anyway.
No offender Ottawa fans.
As a Sens fan, that's ANNOYINGLY exactly how I feel ( we're looked at as the little brother and always get picked on as such ) and a pretty good explanation of the Ottawa-Montreal-Toronto rivalries.
Hate Toronto. Ugh. Thankfully I can hide among my fellow fans in French bars while your fans congregate in our more English-friendly bars everytime Toronto is in town. They're obnoxious and annoying as hell. Bunch of frat-*******.
Ottawa. It wasn't always that way. Then came the Karlsson fanboys and a whole lot of crying. It's pretty unbearable.
Other teams... nothing really. I sort of like Edmonton / Winnipeg.