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03-16-2014, 10:04 PM
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Blues did just fine without backes and Steen. Terasenko won't be that bad with sobotka being back.

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03-16-2014, 10:12 PM
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Terrible was probably too harsh. He's been average, at best. And the last couple of games (especially last night) he deemed disinterested, for whatever reason.
I disagree 100%.

He's been on top of his game since Sochi.

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03-16-2014, 10:18 PM
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How do you feel it affects the Blues down the stetch? They will plug Jaskin in -- a kid with enormous upside, size and talent. Big opportunity for him and Magnus PI to assert themselves on a nightly basis. Tarasenko's been terrible since the Olympics, so it's not as bad as it might have seemed earlier in the season, but still blows to lose him until at least the 2nd round. Thoughts?
9 points in 8 games this month?

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03-16-2014, 10:20 PM
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It is true that losing Tank isn't going to effect things in terms of winning and losing.

However it hurts depth period. They can't afford to lose more top 6 guys after this.

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03-16-2014, 10:33 PM
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Blues did just fine without backes and Steen. Terasenko won't be that bad with sobotka being back.
Agreed. Having Sobe back softens the blow. Great opportunity for Jaskin.

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03-16-2014, 11:21 PM
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Yea, this whole terrible/disinterested/average-at-best crap is completely off. Tarasenko has played very well lately, especially his backchecking and playmaking. He's engaged physically and has just carved up multiple teams with several slick passes each game.

The Blues should be fine without him for now, but he has played good hockey.

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03-16-2014, 11:26 PM
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How do you feel it affects the Blues down the stetch? They will plug Jaskin in -- a kid with enormous upside, size and talent. Big opportunity for him and Magnus PI to assert themselves on a nightly basis. Tarasenko's been terrible since the Olympics, so it's not as bad as it might have seemed earlier in the season, but still blows to lose him until at least the 2nd round. Thoughts?
You haven't been watching the Blues.

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03-16-2014, 11:32 PM
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I think this opens up more of an opportunity for Roy, who was looking like a strong contender for a healthy scratch prior to this. I really don't see Jaskin factoring into the postseason other than insurance depth. It'll be good experience for him, but he needs to improve his skating before he's a realistic guy for full time duty. I have no doubt he'll do just that. Of course, if Roy lays an egg, that could change things.

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03-16-2014, 11:42 PM
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Meh. Good player, not a key player. It shouldn't affect them that much.

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03-16-2014, 11:44 PM
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Even with Vova's sidelining the Blues have good forward depth. The success of Roy and Jaskin depend on Hitch IMO. I'm very curious to see what the new lines are.

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03-16-2014, 11:49 PM
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Meh. Good player, not a key player. It shouldn't affect them that much.
Very key player actually. If you wanna go far in the playoffs, you need secondary scoring. He's provided a lot of that this year.

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03-16-2014, 11:52 PM
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Very key player actually. If you wanna go far in the playoffs, you need secondary scoring. He's provided a lot of that this year.
Like you said, it's secondary scoring. Losing a primary scorer is a key loss. They'll coast through the first round anyways.

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03-17-2014, 12:32 AM
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Like you said, it's secondary scoring. Losing a primary scorer is a key loss. They'll coast through the first round anyways.
You act as if secondary scoring means nothing. It means everything in the playoffs. That's the difference between winning a cup or not. That's why it's a big loss.

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03-17-2014, 12:56 AM
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You act as if secondary scoring means nothing. It means everything in the playoffs. That's the difference between winning a cup or not. That's why it's a big loss.
There are a lot of differences between winning a cup or not. The odds of Tarasenko being the difference are pretty slim. If you had lost somebody like Pietrangelo then there would be cause for concern.

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03-17-2014, 01:11 AM
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As a Hawk fan, he's maybe the scariest Blues forward with the puck on his stick, I actually think its a very important hit for them. Of course, if he can come back in the second round then it probably won't be a big deal. But losing that shot and offensive ability would be a significant blow to any team

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There are a lot of differences between winning a cup or not. The odds of Tarasenko being the difference are pretty slim. If you had lost somebody like Pietrangelo then there would be cause for concern.

Totally agree.

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03-17-2014, 01:16 AM
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There are a lot of differences between winning a cup or not. The odds of Tarasenko being the difference are pretty slim. If you had lost somebody like Pietrangelo then there would be cause for concern.
Thanks captain obvious. If we lose Pietrangelo, we're done, as would just about any team. But in case you didn't know, we lost last year because we couldn't score. So yes, losing secondary scoring is a significant loss.

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03-17-2014, 09:13 AM
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I disagree 100%.

He's been on top of his game since Sochi.
Yeah, ok.

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9 points in 8 games this month?
Derek Roy has more points than Berglund and Sobotka. Who's having the better season?

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03-17-2014, 09:45 AM
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Thanks captain obvious. If we lose Pietrangelo, we're done, as would just about any team. But in case you didn't know, we lost last year because we couldn't score. So yes, losing secondary scoring is a significant loss.
Scoring is not the only reason we lost. This is a fallacy and it is an oversimplification of last year's series with the Kings.

Tarasenko has played ok, but he was playing better before the Olympics than he has been since, similar to Steen.

Tarasenko isn't a make or break piece, especially in the first round. If we lose in the first round to a Minnesota or Dallas because we don't have Tarasenko, then we weren't truly ever cup contenders to begin with.

Hopefully he'll be back in time for the 2nd round.

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03-17-2014, 09:57 AM
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Scoring is not the only reason we lost. This is a fallacy and it is an oversimplification of last year's series with the Kings.

Tarasenko has played ok, but he was playing better before the Olympics than he has been since, similar to Steen.

Tarasenko isn't a make or break piece, especially in the first round. If we lose in the first round to a Minnesota or Dallas because we don't have Tarasenko, then we weren't truly ever cup contenders to begin with.

Hopefully he'll be back in time for the 2nd round.
I couldn't agree more. Tarasenko is young and already very good, but let's take a breath here. It's fairly obvious by this thread that he's overvalued (right now) in St. Louis. Too many people listening to moronic St. Louis media making absurd comparisons ("He really reminds me of Brett Hull with that release!" "He's a legitimate sniper!") A sniper with 21 goals. That's a first.

Like last season, Tarasenko's obviously laboring a bit, but his maturity and work ethic is showing as he has played better far deeper into the season. Hopefully, he's able to return in 2nd round and the Blues are there to meet him.

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03-17-2014, 10:19 AM
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Yeah this sucks, but not a big blow, especially if hes back before the second round.

Get him rested, get other players (MPS and Jaskin) more playing time, get other forwards to step it up. Could work out well for us in the long run

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03-17-2014, 12:03 PM
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You act as if secondary scoring means nothing. It means everything in the playoffs. That's the difference between winning a cup or not. That's why it's a big loss.
Seems like he agreed with what you said, but you guys have a different definition of "key player".

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What a devastating blow to the Blues' playoff chances.

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If there's a team that can absorb the loss of a good forward it's the Blues. So much depth. And I say that with all due respect to Tarasenko's talents.

Long term/deep in the playoffs he'd be missed sorely, but I get the feeling he'll be back by then. Bummer injury for sure, but St. Louis will keep chugging along just fine in the interim.

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If there's a team that can absorb the loss of a good forward it's the Blues. So much depth. And I say that with all due respect to Tarasenko's talents.

Long term/deep in the playoffs he'd be missed sorely, but I get the feeling he'll be back by then. Bummer injury for sure, but St. Louis will keep chugging along just fine in the interim.
Sounds like Oshie is out of tonight's game too. Expecting the birth of his daughter sometime today. Missing two key cogs, and still able to put together a second line of Berglund-Sobotka-Jaskin - I am jealous.

Pens lose 2 guys and we resort to Gibbons or Conner lol

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