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03-17-2014, 09:58 AM
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First to 1000 pts

Not sure if there is a recent thread on this (only could find them from a few years back), but was just wondering everyones thoughts on whether ovechkin or crosby will be first to 1000 pts. Ovechkin currently sits at 803pts in 666gp while crosby is at 753pts in 527gp. Provided Crosby stays healthy I believe he will reach the mark first but what do the rest of you think?

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Both could possibly hit that mark in 2 years which would be really cool. If they are scoring at their current pace (from this season)until they hit 1000 it would take Sidney 170 games and Ovechkin 178 games to hit the target.

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03-17-2014, 10:09 AM
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While Crosby has a pretty big margin in points per game over Ovechkin, he has been injured and I think it's safe to bet he will miss some time again. Not because I want him to, but because he has been hurt so much it's almost bound to happen.


If not for injuries, he would already be there.

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03-17-2014, 10:13 AM
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Crosby has a career average 1.42ppg where as Ovechkin has a 1.25ppg career average, both are currently having below average seasons, with Crosby's season at 1.31ppg and Ovechkin's at 1.05ppg. Based on Career average, it would take Crosby approximately 172 more games to reach 1000 points, and Ovechkin 163 more. Based on this years average, both would require 188 more games.
With the Penguins being the better team, and likely to play more playoff games than the Capitals, I'd say it's more likely that Sid hits the mark first, but both could do it in the same season (2015-16).

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While Crosby has a pretty big margin in points per game over Ovechkin, he has been injured and I think it's safe to bet he will miss some time again. Not because I want him to, but because he has been hurt so much it's almost bound to happen.


If not for injuries, he would already be there.
He's basically been injured 3 times in his career. High ankle for 20 or whatever games, concussion/neck/whatever for ~1 season, broken jaw from puck to face for 12 games.

It's not as if we're talking about Coliacovo here.

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He's basically been injured 3 times in his career. High ankle for 20 or whatever games, concussion/neck/whatever for ~1 season, broken jaw from puck to face for 12 games.

It's not as if we're talking about Coliacovo here.

Right and he is 26 years old. So, I'm saying I think he may get hurt and miss a lot of time again. Simply speculation.

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I think Crosby gets 1000 points first.

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I think Ovechkin will cross the line first.

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Crosby has a career average 1.42ppg where as Ovechkin has a 1.25ppg career average, both are currently having below average seasons, with Crosby's season at 1.31ppg and Ovechkin's at 1.05ppg. Based on Career average, it would take Crosby approximately 172 more games to reach 1000 points, and Ovechkin 163 more. Based on this years average, both would require 188 more games.
With the Penguins being the better team, and likely to play more playoff games than the Capitals, I'd say it's more likely that Sid hits the mark first, but both could do it in the same season (2015-16).
Playoff points don't count here, Otherwise Sid would be sitting at 858 points in 619 games

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Playoff points don't count here, Otherwise Sid would be sitting at 858 points in 619 games
If Playoff Points don't count, I'll give it to Ovechkin, so long as he stays healthy (had Crosby stayed healthy, this wouldn't even be a debate).
It'll be close though, likely within a handful of games one way or the other. I just don't think Sid can close a 50 point gap with Ovechkin needing less than 200 to hit the mark.

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Going with Crosby.

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I think Alexander Ovechkin will get there soon. His scoring has taken a dip this season but his assist totals appear to a bit of an anomaly in 13/14. He didn't just forget how to pass the puck or get assists on the breakout or off of goals scored on his rebounds. Aside from 11/12, Ovechkin has never averaged less than 41 assists a season -- this season he is on pace for 29 assists. His goal scoring as returned to where it once was but the overall talent level on the Washington Capitals has dropped tremendously. I really think that Adam Oates has a terrible influence on Ovechkin's overall game (offensive and defense). He has over-simplified the game Ovechkin plays to be almost solely a trigger man causing his linemates goal totals to suffer and his assist totals to dip as well.

Changes need to be made in Washington, I think that much has been made clear this season. I am hoping GMGM is on his way out and the Capitals go through a culture change with a few drastic team changes and maybe a slight(or major) turnover in coaching personnel. In all honesty, missing the playoffs would go a long way for the Capitals. A good prospect would simply be the cherry top of the sundae while the shattering of the complacency within management would be the real win.


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03-17-2014, 02:52 PM
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If Playoff Points don't count, I'll give it to Ovechkin, so long as he stays healthy (had Crosby stayed healthy, this wouldn't even be a debate).
It'll be close though, likely within a handful of games one way or the other. I just don't think Sid can close a 50 point gap with Ovechkin needing less than 200 to hit the mark.
Playoff points never count when talking career points.

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1000 points already.... Time goes by.

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03-17-2014, 03:06 PM
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I think Sid will get there first. He's been unlucky with injuries, and Ovie has been rather lucky in that department. It could definitely even out.

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Ovi gets there first but barely.

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Going to be in the same game with both at 999. Ovie will shoot the puck, hit the post, and will be cleared out by Lundqvist (traded to the Pens) to Crosby who will take it on a breakaway and score 5 hole on Emery (who was traded to the Caps) which will have him cross 1000 first.

Ovie will get upset, lay out some Pens, and end the game with a gordie howe hat trick.

Book it.

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Going to be in the same game with both at 999. Ovie will shoot the puck, hit the post, and will be cleared out by Lundqvist (traded to the Pens) to Crosby who will take it on a breakaway and score 5 hole on Emery (who was traded to the Caps) which will have him cross 1000 first.

Ovie will get upset, lay out some Pens, and end the game with a gordie howe hat trick.

Book it.
More like both Ovechkin and Crosby will both be sitting with 999 points on the same day, and Crosby will assist Ovechkin's 1000 point. (Ovechkin and Crosby are both traded to the Leafs at this point)

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Another day, another Ovechkin vs Crosby thread...

No one knows which one will get 1000 pts first. Ovi or Crosby could very well have a career ending injury awaiting them in the next game.

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Alex Ovechkin by inches.

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Alex Ovechkin by 2 periods on the same day, and then HF boards become a black hole.

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1000 points already.... Time goes by.
Which shows just how great these two players are.

"""""IFS"""""

Crosby stays healthy
Ovy returns to normal point pace
Ovy gets hurt
Crosby gets hurt
etc etc.

All things considered I'd suspect other than injuries, Ovy returning to he normal assist pace is the biggest factor and that will get him there first.

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While Crosby has a pretty big margin in points per game over Ovechkin, he has been injured and I think it's safe to bet he will miss some time again. Not because I want him to, but because he has been hurt so much it's almost bound to happen.


If not for injuries, he would already be there.
Considering one of his injuries was a complete fluke and the other two have yet to show lingering effects he isn't any more injury prone than any other healthy player. It's not like he has a bum shoulder like Malkin or a destroyed groin like Gaborik that can resurface from minor incidents.

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More like both Ovechkin and Crosby will both be sitting with 999 points on the same day, and Crosby will assist Ovechkin's 1000 point. (Ovechkin and Crosby are both traded to the Leafs at this point)
This made me laugh quite a bit. Very good!


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Crosby will overtake OV next year in points, and the next season he'll get to his 1000th. I can't see OV getting 1000 for at least 3 more seasons with his fairly recent decline in points.

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