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02-22-2007, 12:05 AM
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We all know Spezza-Hossa never really worked.

Can I choose neither and pick Havlat instead?
Well no we dont.

Heatley has been a way more complete player this year. He has narrowed the gap considerally. Id say tiny edge to Hossa but is close.

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Can I choose neither and pick Havlat instead?
I concur. I would rather have a healthy (key word healthy) Havlat over a healthy Heater or Hossa. Havlat, when on his game, is just.... godlike.

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I concur. I would rather have a healthy (key word healthy) Havlat over a healthy Heater or Hossa. Havlat, when on his game, is just.... godlike.

I haven't seen Havlat play all that much, but one game in particular I saw, I don't know if it was just me but he reminded me of Cam Neeley.

Would that be a fair comparison?

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I haven't seen Havlat play all that much, but one game in particular I saw, I don't know if it was just me but he reminded me of Cam Neeley.
Would that be a fair comparison?
Neely and Havlat really aren't comparable players by style - I'd be curious to know what you saw that made you draw that comparison. For straight-up play, I would make it Hossa, Heatley, Havlat - Hossa is by a fair margin the more complete player of the three, and takes no backseat in the offensive side of the equation. Unfortunately Hossa started making $6M/yr at a particularly unfortunate time for the Senators. If you factor in contracts, there's no question that Heatley is the best value right now, which is why he's the one still in Ottawa.

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I haven't seen Havlat play all that much, but one game in particular I saw, I don't know if it was just me but he reminded me of Cam Neeley.

Would that be a fair comparison?
LOL!!!

I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but do you know who Cam Neely is? You know, one of the greatest power forwards of all time?

Havlat and Neely are about as different a comparison as you can find.

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Aaah, I'm not saying end of story, I'm just too lazy to debate and everyone knows what I'll say anyway.
Dany Heatley?

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02-22-2007, 09:56 AM
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Hossa.....no question for me. He does sooooo much more on the ice than put up big numbers. Hossa can easily have a great week without scoring a point.
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02-22-2007, 10:53 AM
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02-22-2007, 12:24 PM
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Neely and Havlat really aren't comparable players by style - I'd be curious to know what you saw that made you draw that comparison. For straight-up play, I would make it Hossa, Heatley, Havlat - Hossa is by a fair margin the more complete player of the three, and takes no backseat in the offensive side of the equation. Unfortunately Hossa started making $6M/yr at a particularly unfortunate time for the Senators. If you factor in contracts, there's no question that Heatley is the best value right now, which is why he's the one still in Ottawa.

I told you I didn't see Havlat all that much, I did however see Neely play a lot.

Basically why I said that is because although I don't concider Havlat to be a power forward, the game I saw him in he seemed like such an energy guy that at least in that game he did remind me of Neely.
Then again, most of the games I saw Neely play was when he was still a Vancouver Canuck.

Out of curiousity, who does Havlat remind you of?

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02-22-2007, 12:34 PM
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I told you I didn't see Havlat all that much, I did however see Neely play a lot.

Basically why I said that is because although I don't concider Havlat to be a power forward, the game I saw him in he seemed like such an energy guy that at least in that game he did remind me of Neely.
Then again, most of the games I saw Neely play was when he was still a Vancouver Canuck.

Out of curiousity, who does Havlat remind you of?
The term power forward was coined in honour of Cam Neely. Cam Neely was a vicious physical presence. A huge part of his game was crushing opposing defencemen and fighting.

The only thing Havlat and Neely have in common is goal scoring.

Havlat's game is based on tremendous acceleration and skill with the puck. He does have a fiesty element, but it doesn't manifest itself in hitting (more like face washing and kicking).

If I have to make an early 90's comparison, it would be Alexander Mogilny with the Sabres.

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but your picture is fuzzy.
.....lmao. that's the picture i took of marian during warmup when i was spazzing out.

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Havlat has alot of Bure's flair. He is grittier then Mogilny imho. He isnt as good a goal scorer as Bure though.

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02-22-2007, 03:55 PM
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Heatley.....no question for me. He does sooooo much more on the ice than put up big numbers. Heatley can easily have a great week without scoring a point.

Heatley's game has more upside than Hossa's and Heatley is 2 years younger, lets not forget.

And as it is, I would still take Heatley.

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