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03-21-2014, 09:45 AM
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Dat Pacioretty pass to Vanek...

Yeah, Patch can't pass right?
that really was a beauty! Good to see.

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03-21-2014, 09:46 AM
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Also big props to Johansen. He was great last night and not just on that goal. Really impressive performance. And on that winning goal, he picks Eller's pocket then when we get it back he picks Tinordi's pocket and then he beats Price.

Sometimes you just gotta give credit where it's due.
Yeah, he was great when he was on the ice. I'd be thrilled if Galchenyuk can develop into something similar to Johansen. Although, he did get 3 penalties in the first which where essential to keep us in the game.

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03-21-2014, 09:51 AM
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Johanssen is Getzlaf version 2.0.

Big right handed centerman, with good hands, speed and play with an edge in his game.

I'm Jelly.

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03-21-2014, 09:57 AM
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Johanssen is Getzlaf version 2.0.

Big right handed centerman, with good hands, speed and play with an edge in his game.

I'm Jelly.
With Jamie Benn's mean streak. The kid is very, very impressive.

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03-21-2014, 10:00 AM
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If Prust is Healthy, do you think White could handle the 3rd line and sit Eller for a game or so ? I like White he brings a lot of energy and wins a lot of puck battles.
I was just thinking the same, but except White would remain on the 4th line, Prust would move up to the 3rd line and Galchenyuk would be centre.

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03-21-2014, 10:05 AM
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One day, we will ALSO start to praise the opponents for their great play. Oh and till his draft year to now....Boone Jenner is and will ever be a special player.
Sure, if this was one game. But it's been going on for quite some time if not the whole season. But by game 70, I figured we would have fixed this.
We are completely clueless in our zone. Forwards don't know who to cover, Dmen can't do a decent breakout pass because forwards are generally too high up. We probably ice the puck more than any other NHL team, or at least are at the top of the list. We keep trying long stretch passes. We can't connect on passes in our transition.

I don't have an issue giving credit to an opponent. But this isn't an isolated situation. We've been playing this way for most of the year.

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03-21-2014, 10:08 AM
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D was too loose all night long...I mean yeah it looks like it all rests on Tinordi's shoulders because of one gaffe but when you give up 40 shots and as many scoring chances as we did, you don't deserve to win...regardless of how the last puck got in the net.

Still though, Tinordi has to know his limits. A backhanded saucer pass under pressure with 3 minutes left in the game? Cmon guy.
CLB had 13 shots on the PP though. A couple of 5 vs 3, a 4min PP..That usually helps increase that shot total.
That being said, we always allow more shots. That's because our defensive structure is flat out non existent.
If our players knew how to position themselves in front, if the forwards came down a little more (and also knew who to cover), and we opted for shorter passes for our transition/break out, instead of simply giving it back to the them opponent most of the time, we wouldn't constantly be outshot.

Seriously, this has got to be one of the worst coaching staffs at structuring play.

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03-21-2014, 10:09 AM
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WE LOST!! FIRE EVERYONE!!!

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03-21-2014, 10:20 AM
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Imagine if Johansen took those 2 penalties with Therrien as his coach?

The 21 year old would've been stapled to the bench.
Very interesting on how some coaches handle their young guns...and how we handle ours...

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03-21-2014, 10:25 AM
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Columbus is a well coached team that was ready for Montreal. It was actually pretty amazing we were still in it with 2 minutes to go. Jenner and Johanson are awesome, would love to have those guys on the Habs.

Stupid play by Tinordi but you can let it slide this time because he is a rookie, that's why they have to play in key situations like late in a game in the regular season and get some experience. He won't try that late in a game in the playoffs I bet...

Eller has been pretty brutal lately, the guy has so much potential I wish he could just put it all together. Not sure if he can get it going again.

Also get the feeling Prust would have been a big help in this game, seems made for these type of contests.

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03-21-2014, 10:28 AM
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Really sucks, at least 1 point would have been alright I guess

Now they better be awake for tomorrow's game cause Toronto will want to destroy us, scoreboard and all

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03-21-2014, 10:38 AM
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Really sucks, at least 1 point would have been alright I guess

Now they better be awake for tomorrow's game cause Toronto will want to destroy us, scoreboard and all
How can they destroy the Habs physically ?

How can the Habs not be awake for agame vs the Laffs ?

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03-21-2014, 10:39 AM
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Very interesting on how some coaches handle their young guns...and how we handle ours...
Johanson has stuggled for three seasons before this one.

It's called maturity. It takes time to reach.

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03-21-2014, 10:44 AM
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Johanson has stuggled for three seasons before this one.

It's called maturity. It takes time to reach.
I wouldn't even have said "struggling" as much as growing into his body/frame.

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03-21-2014, 11:04 AM
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Sure, if this was one game. But it's been going on for quite some time if not the whole season. But by game 70, I figured we would have fixed this.
We are completely clueless in our zone. Forwards don't know who to cover, Dmen can't do a decent breakout pass because forwards are generally too high up. We probably ice the puck more than any other NHL team, or at least are at the top of the list. We keep trying long stretch passes. We can't connect on passes in our transition.

I don't have an issue giving credit to an opponent. But this isn't an isolated situation. We've been playing this way for most of the year.
System sucks. You don't need to convince me. Not because I don't totally agree with the DD usage bashing that is going on that I agree with everything Therrien does. Far from it. But I think that lately, it's too easy to solely attack 2 individuals. I think that often, I've seen execution problems by a few other players, and coaching can do so much. But Therrien is FAR from being a favorite....as you know by now. Another example? The new lines.....makes no sense to me.

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03-21-2014, 11:07 AM
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I wouldn't even have said "struggling" as much as growing into his body/frame.
Are our own youngsters allowed to do the same ? It's not always coaches fault.

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Johanssen caliber player is why I was all for unloading some vets and "tanking" for the next few years. We need a big 1st line centerman so badly. We don't trade for them nor do we get them in free agency so we need to draft one.

Rebuild the right way, IMO. Imagine having Johanssen and Galchenyuk? A lot easier to acquire wingers than centermen.

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03-21-2014, 12:19 PM
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Johanssen caliber player is why I was all for unloading some vets and "tanking" for the next few years. We need a big 1st line centerman so badly. We don't trade for them nor do we get them in free agency so we need to draft one.

Rebuild the right way, IMO. Imagine having Johanssen and Galchenyuk? A lot easier to acquire wingers than centermen.
And what if you do all those years of tanking and don't win the Cup or aren't able to acquire a big 1st line centre? Was it worth it.

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03-21-2014, 12:33 PM
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Very interesting on how some coaches handle their young guns...and how we handle ours...
Except people scream that our young players are horrible and cost us games, while also complaining about them not getting enough ice time. People contradict themselves around here at every chance, it's insanity.

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03-21-2014, 12:48 PM
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Johanssen caliber player is why I was all for unloading some vets and "tanking" for the next few years. We need a big 1st line centerman so badly. We don't trade for them nor do we get them in free agency so we need to draft one.

Rebuild the right way, IMO. Imagine having Johanssen and Galchenyuk? A lot easier to acquire wingers than centermen.
They won't find such a gem at the rank they gonna draft next June. They would have to trade up and give a lot to get a guy like Bennett, for example.

Galchenyuk is the first step. Guys like DeLaRose and Vail are a couple of years away. They are even playing McCarron at centre in London.

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They won't find such a gem at the rank they gonna draft next June. They would have to trade up and give a lot to get a guy like Bennett, for example.

Galchenyuk is the first step. Guys like DeLaRose and Vail are a couple of years away. They are even playing McCarron at centre in London.
There's always a chance !

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There's always a chance !
yeah, of course. But they gonna have to choose a Giroux instead of a Fischer, or a Kreider instead of a Leblanc...

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And what if you do all those years of tanking and don't win the Cup or aren't able to acquire a big 1st line centre? Was it worth it.
As opposed trading a top prospect for a centerman in Gomez? When you don't have key pieces, teams tend to do dumb things like make bad trades or overpay free agents.

Bandaid fixes aren't going to cut it.

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Galchenyuk back at center in practice.......with Bourque and Gionta

We're 11 games from the playoff, and Therrien still seems clueless at what to do.
I think we saw every good combination broken time and time again.

Plekanec - Eller must have played with every combo of wingers possible.
The only thing that seems to not be broken is Pacioretty and DD.

Pacioretty didn't scored since Vanek is here.
Desharnais don't shoot anymore since he got two wingers to feed.
I think it's time for the big break.

Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gionta (A real 2-way Line)
Vanek - Desharnais - Gallagher (The offensive, exploitation role)
Galchenyuk - Eller - Briere

For the PO...do something would've a big problem with this line-up?
I would mayby switch Gally and Briere to see if there's anything there for the PO (Briere = Clutch?)


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03-21-2014, 01:22 PM
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I would like

Vanek DD Galchenyuk
Pacioretty Briere Gallagher

for all the offensive starts

then use Plekanec and Gionta in shutdown roles and give them the occasional faceoff in the offensive zone

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