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Thomas Vanek isn't the dominant force we expected him to be. (Update: sick/hurt?)

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03-24-2014, 11:51 PM
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Playing with DD and Pacio needs some adjusting, they are essentially two players making one entity and for him to sneak in means that DD can have him as the first option before Pacio.

Hes a true winger and one that usually finishes instead of creating hes having some small issues adapting to our dandelion but it will adjust in the coming weeks.

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03-25-2014, 12:11 AM
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I`m VERY impressed with Vanek`s play....He continues to get better game by game...AND he`s making the team around him better....He has some sweet soft hands.....I`ve noticed DD and Max doing some things they were not doing before Vanek arrived. Even if he leaves town on July 1st he will have made our team better....i just hope his pride takes over and he decides that he really wants to play in a city where hockey means everything.....How many millions do you need ?

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03-25-2014, 04:38 AM
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When you compared to the last deadline home run (Kovalev), he's a much different player. Kovy could control the play all by himself and bring the puck into the offensive zone like no other player I've seen with the Habs. Vanek is exclusively great when in the offensive zone. Otherwise, he's pretty damn useless. With that said, he's really skilled, good shot and good vision.

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03-25-2014, 05:52 AM
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His offensive instincts are off the charts. He's exceeded my expectations.

I watch the game differently from most here. He's been dangerous almost every shift.

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03-25-2014, 05:55 AM
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Need to adjust the lines.

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03-25-2014, 05:57 AM
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His offensive instincts are off the charts. He's exceeded my expectations.

I watch the game differently from most here. He's been dangerous almost every shift.
A lot of people care only about the stats.

He have been very good so far.

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03-25-2014, 06:36 AM
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Need to adjust the lines.
This. Put him on a line with Galchenyuk.

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03-25-2014, 06:41 AM
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A lot of people care only about the stats.

He have been very good so far.
I'd have to agree here.

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03-25-2014, 07:49 AM
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When he is rumored to be on the move we want him, when we do not grab him MB is an idiot and needs to go, when we do grab him he isn't as great as we expected, and when/if he does leave, he couldn't handle Montreal, he just wants money, he is a moron, ETC>>>>>I sometimes think people who post/start threads are like 13 year old girls worried about what the 'flavor of the month' in clothes are. What they loved today is 'so yesterday' tomorrow. Never happy and always searching.

Vanek brings something WE DID NOT HAVE AND WE NEEDED to have any shot in the playoffs. My god the guy will be electric in the playoffs and when he hears the fans serenading him you will see a level from him that will make you open the wallet to keep him. He sits his azz in front of the net when we have the zone. Tell me the last hab to do that bigger then Gallagher. The guy scores in that dirty area in front. I just wasted my time answering a little girl who can not decide what color to wear with her lime green shoes...

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03-25-2014, 07:49 AM
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Does he need more time for adjustment ? He's kinda "okay," not really worth his pricetag from what we've seen so far other than his hattrick (Which were all essentially deflections).

I just expected more from an elite scorer.

Am i seeing this differently ?
See what happens in playoffs before deciding

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03-25-2014, 08:02 AM
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You probably expected too much. Vanek is a fine player, but like most players he'll disappear for some games. There are few players in today's NHL that can dominate a game on a consistent basis anyway.

He's still one of the only forwards on this team that gets scoring chances every game. I didn't know he had such a good vision of the game before. He definitely can pass the puck.

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03-25-2014, 08:04 AM
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Anyone that was expecting Vanek to dominate doesn't know how he plays. He's a slow-skating, somewhat lazy, opportunist with really good hands and vision. He'll appear to be hot and cold when viewing his stats, but he pretty much plays with the same effort level each game..sometimes they go in, sometimes they don't.

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03-25-2014, 08:24 AM
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What a stupid thread... I missed last night's game but so far I've been impressed by Vanek's passing who can make some hard passes look easy and is usually on point on the trajectory of the puck of where the player will be. He has excellent hands up close and he's had a ton of chances already. Defensively he's not as bad as I expected him to be. He's better than Pacioretty IMO and has been one of our best player since his acquisition.

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03-25-2014, 09:20 AM
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I`m VERY impressed with Vanek`s play....He continues to get better game by game...AND he`s making the team around him better....He has some sweet soft hands.....I`ve noticed DD and Max doing some things they were not doing before Vanek arrived. Even if he leaves town on July 1st he will have made our team better....i just hope his pride takes over and he decides that he really wants to play in a city where hockey means everything.....How many millions do you need ?
It's not about how many millions he could get, otherwise he probably would have signed that contract with the Islanders. It's about where. Rumor is he wants to go to Minnesota because his wife is from there.

I get that, private life is important for anyone, and it must be long for hockey wife to stay back home "alone" while the player travels left and right. She wants to be with her family.

Remains to be seen if Minnesota want him, and can afford him. Wouldn't be surprised if they kept Moulson instead, probably cheaper.

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03-25-2014, 09:28 AM
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Does he need more time for adjustment ? He's kinda "okay," not really worth his pricetag from what we've seen so far other than his hattrick (Which were all essentially deflections).

I just expected more from an elite scorer.

Am i seeing this differently ?
First off look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSZg9RBIfe8

2nd off in the past 5 years he is the 3rd leading goal scorer in the league.

3rd off a goal is a goal no matter what it is. And if it so easy to score garbage goals (tip ins) why isn't the rest of the league doing it? We have a sniper on our hands. That is what snipers do they tip and shot and hide and wait for the right time to come out.

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03-25-2014, 09:29 AM
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Vanek was never a dominant force. He does his thing and produces, but no he is not a franchise player.

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03-25-2014, 09:30 AM
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Yes he is.

That is all.

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03-25-2014, 09:35 AM
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Saw one shift of Briere and Vanek in OT last night.

With the lines needing a shift maybe:

Patches-DD-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Gionta
Vanek-Briere-Bournival

With all the injuries I'd still bench Bork.

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03-25-2014, 10:11 AM
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Vanek's s concentration is on scoring goals.

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03-25-2014, 10:14 AM
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When Vanek is not scoring, he's putting himself in the right places to make the right plays. He's an extremely smart player, and his passing is, imo, as good as his shot.

I don't agree with the assessment that when he's not scoring, he's not doing anything.

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03-25-2014, 10:31 AM
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Other posters have pretty much covered it, Vanek isn't a prime time Kovalev who can dangle with the puck for half a minute in the other teams end and then roof a wrister after hes turned half the opposition inside out.

Vanek uses his very good size to park himself in scoring areas and uses great hand eye coordination for tips and a great release for quick shots at the net. This is his game. I have actually been impressed at how he both takes and gives short quick passes that lead to scoring chances. I am more interested in signing him than before we got him as I think he can be a 30 goal guy for years to come.


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Thomas Vanek stats from Canadiens NHL stats:

Montreal: 9GP 4G 1A -1+/- 2PP 1GW 32S
Islanders: 47GP 17G 27A 4+/- 5PP 2GW 137S

This Vanek guy seems awful

No really Vanek is everything he is expected to be: Park your ass in front of goalie, cash in rebounds. I'd throw him the money to lock him up for 5+ years.

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Our #1 problem this season is scoring goals.
Vanek scores goals.
The extra goal(s) he can provide could mean the difference between winning and losing a series.
Vanek is the best thing that could have happened to the team at the trade deadline.

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I like Hossa more than Vanek.

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03-25-2014, 10:57 AM
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Does he need more time for adjustment ? He's kinda "okay," not really worth his pricetag from what we've seen so far other than his hattrick (Which were all essentially deflections).

I just expected more from an elite scorer.

Am i seeing this differently ?
Dominant force? He never was, nor was he ever expected to be. He's a goal scorer who scores goal scorer goals. Yeah, the hattrick goals were a deflections. Those are precisely the kinds of goals that pure goal scorers get for you. Notice anyone else get those very often? You kinda answered your own question.

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