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02-23-2007, 10:28 PM
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Koivu or Sheppard

Which of these two is are future # 1 center? Who will have the better career?

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02-23-2007, 10:50 PM
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Koivu because we have seen how he can play at the NHL level. Sheppard is still playing in the juniors so its hard to see how he will do in the NHL enviroment

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02-24-2007, 06:02 AM
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Koivu because we have seen how he can play at the NHL level. Sheppard is still playing in the juniors so its hard to see how he will do in the NHL enviroment
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Not sure either one will be a #1 center.
I know next to nothing about Sheppard, except that he wears size 15 skates.
From what I ve seen of Koivu, he would be more suited for a supporting role, maybe that of a two-way 2nd line forward. He does a lot of little things well, but probably lacks a dominant quality (well, maybe the shootout scoring) to be a true number one center.

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Not sure either one will be a #1 center.
I know next to nothing about Sheppard, except that he wears size 15 skates.
From what I ve seen of Koivu, he would be more suited for a supporting role, maybe that of a two-way 2nd line forward. He does a lot of little things well, but probably lacks a dominant quality (well, maybe the shootout scoring) to be a true number one center.
A true center though is usually the playmaker...example is Crosby. Has only mid 20's in goals but clearly will get into 100's with assists. Koivu to me is basically the same thing. Great support role and a good 2-way player...MN can't afford to lose him

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A true center though is usually the playmaker...example is Crosby. Has only mid 20's in goals but clearly will get into 100's with assists. Koivu to me is basically the same thing. Great support role and a good 2-way player...MN can't afford to lose him
I agree with you that centers are usually paymakers, but the main point of my earlier post was that M. Koivu lacks a dominant quality, thus being better suited for a support role.
Mikko's playmaking, at this point isn't great- it might be ok/good, but it isn't on the same level as Bouchard's. Not sure if playmaking is his forte anyway. In my mind, what makes him valuable is his nice rounded game.

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02-24-2007, 06:56 AM
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I agree with you that centers are usually paymakers, but the main point of my earlier post was that M. Koivu lacks a dominant quality, thus being better suited for a support role.
Mikko's playmaking, at this point isn't great- it might be ok/good, but it isn't on the same level as Bouchard's. Not sure if playmaking is his forte anyway. In my mind, what makes him valuable is his nice rounded game.
Agree fully with you on this. He is still young though and it just needs to be worked on. They all can't be Gabby afterall

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Sheppard actually plays alot like Koivu...strong two way game, good down low, a very good playmaker, physical, leadership qualities.


have two number 2 centers is a problem I like to have.

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I really think Koivu is a late bloomer like Olli Jokinen. He has the talent to become a first line center, i think Minnesota Wild is doing almost everything right with him at this point.

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At the rate Koivu is developing, he's definitely #1 center material. On occasion, he can take over a game. Right now, we don't really have a #1, dominant center type player. Wes Walz usually plays between Demitra and Gaborik, but that's for his defensive ability and speed. Mikko is our best shot at one from within the organization.

Sheppard also have awesome top-end speed. He was second at last year's AHL skills speed contest behind another Wild prospect Fiala. Obviously, he's still in junior so we'll know in 3-4 years (maybe sooner?).

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Sheppard also have awesome top-end speed. He was second at last year's CHL skills speed contest behind another Wild prospect Fiala. Obviously, he's still in junior so we'll know in 3-4 years (maybe sooner?).


I could see him maybe as soon as next year...

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I think Koivu will be the better player

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