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04-02-2014, 03:37 AM
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-Gorges healthy
-Tinordi in for murray
-DD line remains hot
-Price remains Price
-Youth steps up enough to help us score
-Subban isnt put on a leash

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04-02-2014, 04:03 AM
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Key to winning is getting Gorges and our 4th line back.

Bishop will be tough to beat, but we have Price, so almost even.

Shutting down Stamkos and not taking penalties, which Stamkos feeds off of.

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04-02-2014, 05:03 AM
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our 'defense' not playing like **** would be a start

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04-02-2014, 05:45 AM
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1. Don't prematurely sign Therrien to an extension before the playoffs.
2. Play Beaulieu.
3. Try to get some of the young skill guys some confidence, Eller, Galchenyuk, Subban.
4. Sign Markov.
5. Don't get ridiculously outcoached to the point that it looks like the habs are actively seeking unfavorable matchups by the fourth or fifth game.

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Most important: no Chris Lee.


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04-02-2014, 06:01 AM
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For sure the Habs don't have the advantage of going into the playoffs with the best coach in the NHL. Coach Therrible couldn't win the Stanley Cup with Crosby and Malkin although his successor was able to do it with essentially the same team.

Other posters bemoan the Habs' defensive deficiencies. Unfortunately, they're right. The much maligned, much ridiculed Claude Julien wouldn't permit it. They didn't solve them by acquiring an oaf like Douglas Murray or stubbornly putting Francis Bouillon on the ice in the hope that he'd grow a few inches.

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04-02-2014, 06:15 AM
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Coach Therrible couldn't win the Stanley Cup with Crosby and Malkin although his successor was able to do it with essentially the same team.
Come on, Detroit was hardly a pushover.

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04-02-2014, 06:18 AM
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MT's decisions with the D are beyond foolish...Frankie B must have some pics of MT that he doesn't want the world to see....what else could explain this foolishness with the Cube?

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04-02-2014, 06:29 AM
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MT's decisions with the D are beyond foolish...Frankie B must have some pics of MT that he doesn't want the world to see....what else could explain this foolishness with the Cube?
My theory...

Bouillon's a security blanket for MT... He coached him in the Q for 3 years, 20 years ago. Had success. It became a psychological imprint...
Bouillon=Big Success.

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Drive the net, contain Superstar, hammer D and stay out of the Box

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Btw I don't think Michel does D pairings..

Keys to success

AnyoneNotNamedBou - Subban pairing

Subban is trying to do everything by himself right now, seems unwillinging to pass it to Bouillon in most cases.. One shift last night even in the offensive zone he toe'd the blueline for 20 seconds dangling and bouillon kept getting open and he just kept crossing back over until Eller finally skated to get open. Same thing is happening in D-zone..

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We need to bang them off!
When are Prust,
Moen, Weise back exactly?

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Last night's game had me scratching my head...........

1. We cannot cough the puck up like we did last night. Puck control is a key.
2. We cannot have our Norris winning defenseman playin 17m per game. He was 5th amongst defenseman in ice time. Why?
3. Douglas Murray should not play. He is too slow and does not have the skill in our own end to get the puck out.
4. We must hit the net and drive for rebounds. Our forwards (in general) are too soft around the net and Bishop is hard to beat on the 1st shot.
5. The PP needs to get going.....these games will be won on special teams.

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04-02-2014, 07:20 AM
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Btw I don't think Michel does D pairings..

Keys to success

AnyoneNotNamedBou - Subban pairing

Subban is trying to do everything by himself right now, seems unwillinging to pass it to Bouillon in most cases.. One shift last night even in the offensive zone he toe'd the blueline for 20 seconds dangling and bouillon kept getting open and he just kept crossing back over until Eller finally skated to get open. Same thing is happening in D-zone..
I see the opposite.............Subban looks scared to make a mistake. He is not free-wheeling with the puck like we are accustomed to. I say let him go and let the chips fall where they may. MT can't hang the threat of decreased ice time over his head, his game looks scared because of it.

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04-02-2014, 07:22 AM
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Key to winning is getting Gorges and our 4th line back.

Bishop will be tough to beat, but we have Price, so almost even.

Shutting down Stamkos and not taking penalties, which Stamkos feeds off of.
Ben Bishop>Carey Price.

Only on the HF Habs board, ladies and gentlemen. Only on the HF Habs board.

Anyway, my keys are:
  • Don't take as many penalties as we did last night (hopefully we have a real ref and not peewee ref Chris Lee handling our series)
  • Gorges back, if not, someone other than Bou with Subban, please, for the love of all that's holy.
  • Play Subban more than 17minutes.
  • Fourth line is healthy (aka. Moen, Weise, Prust)
  • Top line stays hot, others join it
  • Drive the net looking for rebounds
  • Quick lateral movement before shots, Bishop can't handle it

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04-02-2014, 07:23 AM
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Key to winning is getting Gorges and our 4th line back.

Bishop will be tough to beat, but we have Price, so almost even.

Shutting down Stamkos and not taking penalties, which Stamkos feeds off of.
Almost even????? WTF????

The difference here is that Bishop gets far less quality scoring chances against him than Price. I say we have the edge if scoring chances are equal.

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Wow, have people already forgotten when we swept the season series with the Bruins and they took us to Game 7? The season series means nothing once we get to the playoffs, especially one that was as close as this was.

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04-02-2014, 08:12 AM
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Ben Bishop>Carey Price.

Only on the HF Habs board, ladies and gentlemen. Only on the HF Habs board.

Anyway, my keys are:
  • Don't take as many penalties as we did last night (hopefully we have a real ref and not peewee ref Chris Lee handling our series)
  • Gorges back, if not, someone other than Bou with Subban, please, for the love of all that's holy.
  • Play Subban more than 17minutes.
  • Fourth line is healthy (aka. Moen, Weise, Prust)
  • Top line stays hot, others join it
  • Drive the net looking for rebounds
  • Quick lateral movement before shots, Bishop can't handle it
Yeah Pacioretty's one timer that hit the post yesterday was a perfect example of that. If he comes out to challenge the point shot, he won't be fast enough to go back to his post and save the one timer coming from one of the faceoff dots.

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04-02-2014, 08:16 AM
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Who cares.. "We are going to get swept", said all the whiners.
Good post, thanks for your fascinating contribution to the discussion.

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- Bouillon and Murray out, Gorges and Tinordi/Beaulieu in for their speed
- Hopefully getting Prust, Moen and Weise back so we can roll 4 solid lines, having physical guys like that to wear down their defense in the playoffs will be huge
- Shooting low on Bishop whenever possible and crashing the net for rebounds, he gave up a lot of juicy rebounds yesterday and our only goal was scored this way
- Improving our powerplay

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04-02-2014, 08:32 AM
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Laughing so hard at some posters in this thread. It really is sad how much people overreact on here.

Was it a terrible game by the Habs? Yes! absolutely.

Its 1 game.. Means absolutely nothing.. We won 8 out of the last 9.

They could come out and win 5-0 game 1. Who knows.. This game means absolutely nothing, But as always over analyze it and give up on the year.... See ya in the next GDT lol.. where the same people who are ******** on them now will call them Cup champs after a W.

I'm so glad the Habs fans in my life don't act like this haha.

Go Habs Go! Series will be 4-1 Habs. Book it
Your post is extremely insulting and wrong. In all my years here I have never seen a trend where posters say we will win the cup after a win, and then say we are totally **** after a loss, and doomed.

Why do you post **** like this? Most posters here are intelligent and make good observations, unlike you, who spends time criticizing others and offering nothing interesting at all. ****ing useless. GTFO if you can't be a decent poster here.

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Yeah, but im not talking to people like you who are just concerned about it, It's the idiots who say 100% winning cup after a win and then after a loss. Season over.

It's okay to be concerned obviously but its so dumb the people who flip flop every game........ You shouldn't go from thinking serious contender (not saying I thought that) to thinking 1st round exit after 1 poor game. (you didn't im talking about other people)
WTF is with you man? Welcome to my ignore list.

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Tampa Bay can shut down a one-line team
They did it every single games.

If Plek has to spend the entire series against Stamkos, he can't play with Galchenyuk and Gallagher cause they'll play only 10-12 minutes like last night.

But then again......this is all the coach's decision.

Pacioretty - DD - Vanek did look good so far.....
Against Colorado (With Giguere, and only the PP)
Against Detroit (Without Datsyuk and Zetterberg)
Against Florida (Without Luongo and Huberdeau)

But they look really invisible against Boston and Tampa Bay....2 of the team we can face in the PO. Those good team can shutdown this line. But if PAcioretty and Vanek are on 2 different line, then one of them can't be shutdown.

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Yeah Pacioretty's one timer that hit the post yesterday was a perfect example of that. If he comes out to challenge the point shot, he won't be fast enough to go back to his post and save the one timer coming from one of the faceoff dots.
I've been watching highlights of Bishop. He gets up off his ass REAL slow. Make him stretch, get him down on the ice. Not rocket science and I'm pretty sure Habs know this.

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We need to bang them off!
When are Prust,
Moen, Weise back exactly?
I have to say if there was ever a time/team we should play an aggressive goon style game with lots of hard hitting and intimidation it should be against Tampa.

Dress Parros have him intimidate.
Prust, White, Moen, Emelin, Murray and even Eller need to go out there and lay some BIG hit's. Let them know what time it is.

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I have to say if there was ever a time/team we should play an aggressive goon style game with lots of hard hitting and intimidation it should be against Tampa.

Dress Parros have him intimidate.
Prust, White, Moen, Emelin, Murray and even Eller need to go out there and lay some BIG hit's. Let them know what time it is.
If only we could dress seven defensemen without having to lose a forward, Tinordi could be useful for this purpose too.

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