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04-04-2014, 12:47 PM
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In the remaining games Beaulieu might play up to the level projected for him when he was drafted but he might be a liability. Let's hope for the best but not get giddy.

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04-04-2014, 02:35 PM
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Markov-Emelin
Tinordi-Subban
Beaulieu-Weaver

Those are really good pairings.

I would feel comfortable with it just a lack of physicabily on the third pairing though and size. We also need Beaulieu for second pairing PP.

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04-04-2014, 02:40 PM
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Personally, I'd like to see Beaulieu up with Subban before Tinordi. He plays with more pace, is more confident with the puck, and when he makes mistakes he has the ability to get back into the play more than Tinordi. I think eventually Tinordi will be Subban's partner, but he's not ready yet.

I think Tinordi and Weaver would be a good pair. They can play more of a shutdown game.

Markov - Emelin
Beaulieu - Subban
Tinordi - Weaver

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04-04-2014, 02:40 PM
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Those are really good pairings.

I would feel comfortable with it just a lack of physicabily on the third pairing though and size. We also need Beaulieu for second pairing PP.
Go back and watch some game tape of when Beaulieu was paired with Subban. The ability of both players to retrieve the puck and exit the zone with ease, EVEN without proper winger support was something to behold.

The smart move is to play him with Subban from what I've seen. They compliment each other with puck skills, skating ability and poise with the puck. Not to mention people tend to forget that Beaulieu is a big kid that uses his body well to control the puck in traffic.

Beaulieu-Subban
Markov-Emelin
Tinordi-Weaver

Bouilon - send him to Narnia for all I care, he shouldn't be playing he's a liability and is making our Norris winner look like Komisarek.

Also when Gorges comes back I'd put him with Weaver and have them play top PK minutes and limited ES minutes, but I'm a crazy armchair coach if you compare to how Therrien thinks the game.

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04-04-2014, 02:40 PM
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Something just came to my mind. How come Tinordi never got the same ****** treatment that Beaulieu did when he was up here? Where he was constantly being sent down between games just to save a few bucks on the cap? or whatever BS reason this board came up with?
Tinordi had the same treatment earlier in the season. Now with the trade deadline passed, I guess saving cap space isn't a big issue anymore...

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04-04-2014, 02:54 PM
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Go back and watch some game tape of when Beaulieu was paired with Subban. The ability of both players to retrieve the puck and exit the zone with ease, EVEN without proper winger support was something to behold.
I agree, transition game is so huge. Beaulieu helps with that. We're a dangerous team when our forwards force a turnover, D turns it around and we're coming back the other way in numbers. We have lots of dangerous rush forwards, especially on our first line.

All Cube can do is get to the red and dump it and Tinordi is still too mistake prone when he goes up ice.

The nice thing about our d is we have a bunch of guys that can rotate in depending on the schedule, opponent, injury, suspension, etc. Weaver, Tinordi, Boullion, Beaulieu, Murray sharing the bottom pair gives me great comfort.

The only problem I have is if we have a top 4 d drop out we have no one that can step in without a dropoff in our d core. Basically, we need 5 top 4 d men to have true depth.

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04-04-2014, 02:59 PM
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I agree, transition game is so huge. Beaulieu helps with that. We're a dangerous team when our forwards force a turnover, D turns it around and we're coming back the other way in numbers. We have lots of dangerous rush forwards, especially on our first line.

All Cube can do is get to the red and dump it and Tinordi is still too mistake prone when he goes up ice.

The nice thing about our d is we have a bunch of guys that can rotate in depending on the schedule, opponent, injury, suspension, etc. Weaver, Tinordi, Boullion, Beaulieu, Murray sharing the bottom pair gives me great comfort.

The only problem I have is if we have a top 4 d drop out we have no one that can step in without a dropoff in our d core. Basically, we need 5 top 4 d men to have true depth.
Beaulieu is a top 4 defenseman when paired with Subban, no doubt in my mind. But that takes the stones to play a young kid and give him responsibility, something this coachign staff lacks. Look at Glachenyuk, the kid plays 10 minutes a night, even when he's the most dangerous player out there.

However, you are right about lack of depth in the top 4. I really only see Subban, Markov and Beaulieu as top 4 on this team with Emelin possibly when he's on his game. Gorges is a bottom pairing guy, even if he's paid like a top 4 and well, Tinordi isn't as seasoned as Beaulieu (IMO), Murray, Bouillon, Weaver etc pretty apparent. I guess time will tell what happens but I lack faith in the coaching staff to figure it out and hence an enormous amount of pressure will be on Price to make this team look better than it is defensively.

No real big change for him though.

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04-04-2014, 03:02 PM
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you can't play markov-emelin as a first pairing, doesn't make any sense.

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04-04-2014, 03:08 PM
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nope.

I believe the great Michel Therrien is going with

Markov-Emelin
Bouillon-Subban
Tinordi-Weaver
Wait... what?

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you can't play markov-emelin as a first pairing, doesn't make any sense.
They have been played as the top pairing for a couple weeks now. Subban played 9 minutes of ES time last game, least of all defensemen (yes less than Murray and Bouillon) while Markov and Emelin were tops.

At the point in the season when Markov should be getting some rest, he's being overused and our Norris winning Horse is being 'rested'

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Wait... what?
Yea Beaulieu not playing tonight

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04-04-2014, 03:25 PM
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04-04-2014, 04:28 PM
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Looking at Ottawa's lineup, they're a big team that plays physical, I want Tinordi in the line-up with Murray being suspended and Prust, Moen and Weise being injured...

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They have been played as the top pairing for a couple weeks now. Subban played 9 minutes of ES time last game, least of all defensemen (yes less than Murray and Bouillon) while Markov and Emelin were tops.

At the point in the season when Markov should be getting some rest, he's being overused and our Norris winning Horse is being 'rested'
I just don't believe we have a chance of winning a series if Subban isn't on the first pairing, playing Emelin on his off side doesn't help either.

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04-04-2014, 05:10 PM
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I just don't believe we have a chance of winning a series if Subban isn't on the first pairing, playing Emelin on his off side doesn't help either.
I doubt anyone does, except the coaching staff anyway. They would rather win 2-1 in a shoot out and build "character" than win 6-2 with some exciting plays in the game.

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04-04-2014, 05:25 PM
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I can see them inserting Bo tomorrow vs Detroit. Tinordi vs harder hitting Ottawa, Bo vs finesse oriented Detroit.

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Yea Beaulieu not playing tonight
Essentially Boullion playing the last games of his career.
Unless we get totally FU'd in the playoffs.
Let's go with the thought that it is actually a class act by the organization.


Anyone Feeling Any Better

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04-04-2014, 07:59 PM
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Good, would much rather he see minutes than Bouilion or Murray. I remember in 2010 a certain PK Subban being thrown into the cauldron of playoff hockey and he did alright. Don't hold the kid back.

It is MT though so I fully expect him to play the last couple of games of the season and then be on the sidelines come game 1 against Tampa.

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04-05-2014, 06:52 AM
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Beaulieu will get ice-time before the playoffs. He's being groomed for a top-four role in the NHL and the last four games is a good chance to shave off some of those rookie rough spots. I'd love to see him in the playoffs because he brings exactly what we need on D, but I doubt Therrien takes the risk.

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Something just came to my mind. How come Tinordi never got the same ****** treatment that Beaulieu did when he was up here? Where he was constantly being sent down between games just to save a few bucks on the cap? or whatever BS reason this board came up with?
How is it bad treatment?

You do realize that he wasn't really travelling back and forth between Montréal and Hamilton right?

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Did Beaulieu play last night?

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Did Beaulieu play last night?
Nope

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No Beaulieu. Weaver more icetime than Subban last night. MT loves his little grinders.

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No Beaulieu. Weaver more icetime than Subban last night. MT loves his little grinders.
Well, Weaver is red hot lately. Let's see how he performs in playoffs

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