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04-04-2014, 10:03 PM
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Hate to say it but Subban is not playing like an $8 million per year DMan right now. Not even close.
Fire our idiot coach and he'll play better. So will everyone else.

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Hate to say it but Subban is not playing like an $8 million per year DMan right now. Not even close.
Even so, someone is gonna give him that money.

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Won't be with Montreal.

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Subban is worth about 6.5 mil. No way he should be paid more than Price

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Fire our idiot coach and he'll play better. So will everyone else.
I hate Therrien more than you do but for different reasons.

It still sucks that Subban's game has declined so far this season after the Olympics.

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I hate Therrien more than you do but for different reasons.

It still sucks that Subban's game has declined so far this season after the Olympics.
He's still been awesome. His coach doesn't know wtf he's doing. Against Tampa we were destroyed when he wasn't on the ice but at the end of the game MT blames him.

Tonight he gets benched for being on the ice for two goals but DD keeps his regular shift...

MT is a ****ing idiot. Get rid of him and Subban (and everyone else) will improve.

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04-04-2014, 10:13 PM
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Some team is gonna give him all the money he wants. Subban should stay here, otherwise it would be a disaster from habs management. Despite his below average stretch this season, he is still a franchise player.

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04-04-2014, 10:36 PM
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I've already prepared myself for the reality of a Chelios/Roy 2.0 type move this offseason or near future.

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8 years at 7.3 million...

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How much longer is Molson gonna let this continue? At this point, it's becoming more and more obvious that this feud is more than just about hockey. Therrien needs to either check his ego at the door and work with PK or GTFO. The guy's childish behaviour is gonna sink this team come playoff time.

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04-04-2014, 10:59 PM
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I get upset when I think of how Patrick Roy would be managing Subban.

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Sure - idiot coach who's record is 73-41-12. Someone explain to me what the objective of coaching a hockey team? Last I checked it was to win.

I'm going to love the day (before next season) that Therrien gets extended.

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Sure - idiot coach who's record is 73-41-12. Someone explain to me what the objective of coaching a hockey team? Last I checked it was to win.

I'm going to love the day (before next season) that Therrien gets extended.
Win...the cup. That's the objective. I'd take a middle of the pack regular season team that plays a way that would win in playoffs than a team that gets a good record in regular and then get embarrassed in playoffs. Best part is the 'team just doesn't have talent on it' excuse for MT.

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04-04-2014, 11:23 PM
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Win...the cup. That's the objective.
Does having PK Subban taking 8.5 million $ (more than 1/9th) of our limited cap space the best way to build a cup contender? Honest question.

I'm not so sure myself anymore. He has as many bad games as good games. What if he's Phaneuf 2.0?

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04-04-2014, 11:28 PM
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Fire our idiot coach and he'll play better. So will everyone else.
Don't question MT's decisions. He knows how to handle elite players









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I somehow doubt Bergevin will flop and fail so bad to the point of PK leaving.

As much as, I hate how Therrien benched PK tonight or how Bouillon is paired with our best Dman. I don't think Therrien actually punished PK tonight. PK was simply playing a really bad game and his TOI was managed in that way. Can't say Subban is playing great in the last couple games. I really hope he turns it around soon.

I doubt that we'd ever let PK go. I think Bergevin would probably fire Therrien before trading or letting PK walk. At least, I really hope. That would be a terribly dark day if it ever occured.

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Subban's recent Boston Pizza add was hilarious tho.

His french is also damn good. He got "non" perfectly.

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Subban's recent Boston Pizza add was hilarious tho.

His french is also damn good. He got "non" perfectly.
True...



but the original was better


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Subban's recent Boston Pizza add was hilarious tho.

His french is also damn good. He got "non" perfectly.
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True...

but the original was better
BTW, PricePKPatch, having problems with your avatar?




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I get upset when I think of how Patrick Roy would be managing Subban.
Does anybody remember what Patrick said about Erik Johnson on L'Antichambre? About playing him despite his mistakes?

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Does anybody remember what Patrick said about Erik Johnson on L'Antichambre? About playing him despite his mistakes?
Nope but he're what he said about Johnson way back in September, before a puck had been dropped in anger:

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“I had a great conversation with Erik. Honestly, I’m confident he’s going to have a really good year. The thing is, we’re going to work really hard with him to ‘don’t live in the past.’ It’s now,” Roy said. “Don’t worry about the ‘first overall’ thing. Don’t worry where people say ‘first overall pick’ – it’s over. We want you to be who you are. Erik needs to be Erik Johnson. Go hard, go out there and play his game and be himself. That’s what I want to see from him. We’re going to try and bring a lot of confidence to his game. Yes, we want him to play better defensively. But we don’t want to take away his offensive skills, because he’s got good offensive skills.”
Coaches need to pump their players tyres, at least in public. In fact the only player Roy has gone after is a veteran in Gigure. He gets it.


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Does having PK Subban taking 8.5 million $ (more than 1/9th) of our limited cap space the best way to build a cup contender? Honest question.

I'm not so sure myself anymore. He has as many bad games as good games. What if he's Phaneuf 2.0?
Limit from doing what? Honest question.

If you want to worry about an extra couple million, cut from the bottom. One thing Habs never had short of is dead weight cap hits. How this is even a debate is beyond my comprehension level. Habs will just have to think a tiny bit more than usual before overpaying a bottom 6 F/D UFA or opt to avoid picking up deadweight players in trades.

In terms of re-sign, who in this organization is pegged for huge raises any time soon? The only hope is Galchenyuk but he technically already has a 3+M cap hit with bonus. By the time he and Gallagher are getting raises, Markov will be 40s and off the book. Plekanec mid 30s cheaper contract. By that time, the cap is likely much higher.

There's literally nothing overpaying Subban realistically limits the Habs from doing that will win them championships. Now, if we are talking about trading him - there's your limit setting your team back another decade.

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There's literally nothing overpaying Subban realistically limits the Habs from doing that will win them championships. Now, if we are talking about trading him - there's your limit setting your team back another decade.
Hey dude, you didn't get the memo? Cap space and unproven prospects win championship. The goal is to win the Stanley cup with the lowest possible cap.

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Subban is not playing like an 8 million dollar per year man, hell, he is barely playing like a 5 million dollar per year dman. This is undisputable. Until he gets his act together and can play a complete game like Weber and Doughty I would be very hesitant to pay him the big bucks. But he has the Habs by the bag, to keep him they will have to overpay him. He may be worth the 8 million one day, but that day is definitely not here now.

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Limit from doing what? Honest question.

If you want to worry about an extra couple million, cut from the bottom. One thing Habs never had short of is dead weight cap hits. How this is even a debate is beyond my comprehension level. Habs will just have to think a tiny bit more than usual before overpaying a bottom 6 F/D UFA or opt to avoid picking up deadweight players in trades.

In terms of re-sign, who in this organization is pegged for huge raises any time soon? The only hope is Galchenyuk but he technically already has a 3+M cap hit with bonus. By the time he and Gallagher are getting raises, Markov will be 40s and off the book. Plekanec mid 30s cheaper contract. By that time, the cap is likely much higher.

There's literally nothing overpaying Subban realistically limits the Habs from doing that will win them championships. Now, if we are talking about trading him - there's your limit setting your team back another decade.
Thats because you forget why some guys were handed huge contracts and failed to live up to them. Gomez, Komisarik, Lapointe, Redden, Kaberle etc.

Think for just one minute, brisebois, and his wasnt during the cap era and people *****ed about 4 or 4.5 million. Do you think if subban plas the way he has for a good chunk of the year that 8+ million won't get literally booed out of town? To make matters worse, the habs would have to eat half the contract and take on a second teir player to move him with other GMs knowing they would fleece us. If he get 6.5-7 thats lots and its movable if either party wants out. Remember this is also about protecting the player.

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