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02-27-2007, 10:25 PM
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Nylander has an option? are you sure about that?
There is a team option and a player option written into Nylander's contract. I seriously doubt that Nylander would exercise his option--I don't remember the exact number (and anyway it's changed due to the new CBA) but it's a lot lower than what he's making now and about half of the team's option. There hasn't been anything written recently, but the feeling in the press a couple of months ago was the team would like to work out a multi-year contract extension, rather than picking up the one year option.

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02-27-2007, 10:51 PM
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Barry Melrose just said on ESPN, that the rangers were the biggest losers of the trade deadline. Ahhhhhhhahahahah. Shows what he knows.
yeah he's such a knowledgeable hockey person and such a great coach.. thats why his door is getting knocked down everytime there is a job opening.. he's just a biter fool with bad suits and a mullet, a grey mullet at that....

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I used to like Melrose but for the past two years or so he's changed.
he's a typical espn idoit..

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02-27-2007, 10:52 PM
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He's become the Stephen A. Smith of hockey. Goes for shock value and basically reinforces what the uneducated fan believes based on ESPN highlights. (Oh yeah, and even when he was good he seemed to have an anti-Ranger bias.)

The Rangers should have gone for Guerin, et. al.? What?!?!?

It's a shame to see him fall like that, because I used to enjoy his commentary (like 6-8 years ago).
wow, perfect. i was scrolling down to hit the reply button thinking the same exact things.

he just "ESPN's" his comments these days..

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02-27-2007, 11:13 PM
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Ehh. Wouldn't say stupid but we really didn't help ourselves much again

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02-27-2007, 11:13 PM
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There is a team option and a player option written into Nylander's contract. I seriously doubt that Nylander would exercise his option--I don't remember the exact number (and anyway it's changed due to the new CBA) but it's a lot lower than what he's making now and about half of the team's option. There hasn't been anything written recently, but the feeling in the press a couple of months ago was the team would like to work out a multi-year contract extension, rather than picking up the one year option.
This is the first I've heard about a team option... unless the team option is only there if Nylander picks up his player option... which is entirely possible.

However I think it's safe to say Nylander will be declining his player option... if it even gets to that point. Probably a 2-year extension worked out in June.

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02-27-2007, 11:14 PM
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I didn't see it, but judging by typical rants from Melrose in the past, I'd go on record saying that was the gist of what he said. The winner in any trade to Melrose is the team that wins the deal short term. A team could give up a future Crosby for an aging Messier and claim they won the deal and call the team that traded the aging Messier type a loser. I am amazed some people find the guy credible.
I'm guessing something along the lines of: "The team that gits the best player wins the trade, eh. But in my opinion the New York Rangers aren't getting any younger especially with their O-ffense and they failed to capitalize on the chance to pick up a real star like a Tkachuk or a Zednik, someone who knows how to win and how to pay the price."

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02-27-2007, 11:22 PM
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I'm guessing something along the lines of: "The team that gits the best player wins the trade, eh. But in my opinion the New York Rangers aren't getting any younger especially with their O-ffense and they failed to capitalize on the chance to pick up a real star like a Tkachuk or a Zednik, someone who knows how to win and how to pay the price."
That's what I'm figuring.

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02-27-2007, 11:23 PM
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What? Why? Elaborate, please.
There is no need to elaborate. It is Melrose and he lives in the universe that is his own mullet.

Seriously Melrose has been passed up(he feels)for the Rangers coaching job at least twice. Anytime he gets a chance to put a dig into the Rangers he takes it.

Best of all, he covers hockey at a sports network.... that barely covers hockey.

Yeah, he's relevant....not.

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02-27-2007, 11:24 PM
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I think Nylander's player option is for something like $1.55-million or something crazy like that. He's certainly not going to pick it up unless he wants to be highly underpaid. He'll be a UFA if the Rangers can't sign him to an extension before July 1st.

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02-28-2007, 12:29 AM
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im trying to be as nice as possible here.. please can you NOT go there with the pompous attitude defending sather

i think everyone that is NOT a sather fan is WELL within their rights to feel that way, and has plenty of reason to.. so RESPECT THAT.. and you look a little foolish defending him because those reasons hold a lot more water than what yours are

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02-28-2007, 01:02 AM
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I think Nylander's player option is for something like $1.55-million or something crazy like that. He's certainly not going to pick it up unless he wants to be highly underpaid. He'll be a UFA if the Rangers can't sign him to an extension before July 1st.
Why does everyone want Nylander back so bad? And I would def. not sign him to a multi-year deal. I understand the team will probably sign him back, because of the whole Jagr friendship non-sense...but please, I don't need multiple years of this guy circling anymore.

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02-28-2007, 01:08 AM
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Can someone please tell me how Rachunek is still on this team?!

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02-28-2007, 01:10 AM
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im amazed nikolai zherdev isnt a ranger. whats happening with this kid, he still in limbo?

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02-28-2007, 05:51 AM
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Mara is also -21 this season. Interesting that no ones discussing this. The dupuis move may very well turn out to be a steal, but I don't see why we trade a stay at home defenseman gets traded, for some one who's more offensive. Especially, when defensive responsiblity is one of this teams biggest issues. But that's just me. I can understand the age thing somewhat, but Aaron's younger than both Jagr and Shanny.
Mara has played on nothing but poor teams and when you have take that in to consideration I think and put the minus in that context. Why is this an issue when evryone on here says Malik's plus rating is a joke. Which way is it? Can't be one way for this player, that way for another,

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02-28-2007, 06:33 AM
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Great trade with Atlanta... Atlanta GM was taken to school this year. First by the Flyers, then by the Blues and now Rangers did a number on them...

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02-28-2007, 06:48 AM
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Can someone please tell me how Rachunek is still on this team?!
It is interesting considering he's probably going to lose his PP time to Mara now... he has really only been effective (if anything) as a PP specialist.

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02-28-2007, 06:58 AM
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im trying to be as nice as possible here.. please can you NOT go there with the pompous attitude defending sather

i think everyone that is NOT a sather fan is WELL within their rights to feel that way, and has plenty of reason to.. so RESPECT THAT.. and you look a little foolish defending him because those reasons hold a lot more water than what yours are
You kind of don't have a leg to stand on over the last 3 years. Sather's done a very good job since the purge, it might be time to move on.

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02-28-2007, 07:31 AM
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You kind of don't have a leg to stand on over the last 3 years. Sather's done a very good job since the purge, it might be time to move on.
are you serious?


2000-2004 = DISAPPOINTING

year 1 = lockout
year 2 = great year
year 3 = DISAPPOINTING

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02-28-2007, 07:32 AM
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So let me get this straight........its stupid to get younger players, and get rid of players who we know didn't work out and are problems with their mouths. I'm certainly not giddy about Mara, but I'm not upset either. I actually think we may have gotten a player MUCH better than his stats indicate this season, and he's a big body, which we are never going to have too much of, that can skate, unlike Malik! As for Dupuis, well Pascal, we hardly knew ya, but the return we got was much more than I expected, that much I can tell you. I believe Bourret was on the Ranger RADAR at draft time,last year, and high up on the wish list. I am very optimistic about his future. He's got good skills and likes to bang, what more can I say!

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02-28-2007, 07:51 AM
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are you serious?


2000-2004 = DISAPPOINTING

year 1 = lockout
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Don't be so sure yet Manny. The Rangers are not out of it yet. It looks like Montreal is going to flop out of the playoffs and Toronto nor Carolina don't really scare anyone.

The Rangers have a 6 game stretch now where if they go 4-2 or higher they can really shock a lot of people and do a lot of damage. These two home and home games against the Islanders will make or break the season.

As for the Dupuis trade, Sather must have had some serious blackmail on Don Waddell to fleece him like that.

Bourret is going to be a 1st line RW in the NHL.

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02-28-2007, 09:34 AM
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And Malik is +21. How telling is that?

Just pair them together and they'll both be even.
lol. I'm still worried about defensive responsibilty though. This team needs guys who can shut down other teams best players. Everyone's touting his offensive ability, (including Mara himself postgame last night) especially his shot from the blueline, but we don't even shoot on the PP. This team needs to load up on defensive defenseman, and let the fowards worry about the scoring, lest we end up with more Ozo's.

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02-28-2007, 09:39 AM
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lol. I'm still worried about defensive responsibilty though. This team needs guys who can shut down other teams best players. Everyone's touting his offensive ability, (including Mara himself postgame last night) especially his shot from the blueline, but we don't even shoot on the PP. This team needs to load up on defensive defenseman, and let the fowards worry about the scoring, lest we end up with more Ozo's.
The Rangers do need a top shut-down defenseman. But you're not getting that player for Aaron Ward. Hopefully that guy will be Marc Staal.

We don't shoot on the PP because no one does it. Maybe Mara will.

Let's not bring Poti or Ozo into this. Mara is more physical than both of them combined.

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02-28-2007, 09:45 AM
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I didn't see it, but judging by typical rants from Melrose in the past, I'd go on record saying that was the gist of what he said. The winner in any trade to Melrose is the team that wins the deal short term. A team could give up a future Crosby for an aging Messier and claim they won the deal and call the team that traded the aging Messier type a loser. I am amazed some people find the guy credible.
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There is no need to elaborate. It is Melrose and he lives in the universe that is his own mullet.

Seriously Melrose has been passed up(he feels)for the Rangers coaching job at least twice. Anytime he gets a chance to put a dig into the Rangers he takes it.

Best of all, he covers hockey at a sports network.... that barely covers hockey.

Yeah, he's relevant....not.
Being in Canada I don't get to see any ESPN coverage, so Barry Melrose the hockey commentator is more or less unknown to me. I have become aware, in recent years, of his iffy-reputation, but I had no idea it was this bad.

We have our fair share of those guys too. Bill Watters on Sportsnet comes to mind, which is why I only watch TSN for my hockey news.

The main thing for me about this whole deadline is that we didn't give up anything of value in terms of our future. I also believe that in not having a firesale we're doing a good service to the players on this team that will be here for years to come by indicating that we're not giving up.

Perhaps the team's response last night was reply from the players, perhaps it was just a tired Montreal team and a Ranger squad that was due. Who knows? Point is things could have been a lot worse.

Sather has earned a little bit of my trust back with these last two deadlines (I can forgive him for Ozolinsh...kinda).

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The Rangers do need a top shut-down defenseman. But you're not getting that player for Aaron Ward. Hopefully that guy will be Marc Staal.

We don't shoot on the PP because no one does it. Maybe Mara will.

Let's not bring Poti or Ozo into this. Mara is more physical than both of them combined.
Mara is also in his prime.

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The Rangers do need a top shut-down defenseman. But you're not getting that player for Aaron Ward. Hopefully that guy will be Marc Staal.

We don't shoot on the PP because no one does it. Maybe Mara will.

Let's not bring Poti or Ozo into this. Mara is more physical than both of them combined.
Well I guess time will tell. Ward a top guy? No, but he was physical, stuck up for teamates, and blocked a lot of shots. He also made some bad plays I'm not pretending otherwise, but I think the good outweighed the bad. Mara better be at least as good defensively as he was or we've taken a step back IMO, no matter what he brings to the point. He cited Brian Leetch as his model player, if he can play even 1/5th as well as he, my mouth is officially shut.

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