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Canadian grass roots hockey - threatened by parents

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04-10-2014, 12:06 PM
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Canadian grass roots hockey - threatened by parents

http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/...hockey-fights/

Hockey parents are very passionate about the game their kids play. To the point of physical confrontation in the stands. And parents demanding where and how their kids (for whom they have NHL aspirations) play, undermining the local associations authority in geographic assignments, etc. Referees and coaches are getting so much (verbal) abuse, that organizations are having problems finding folks to fill those positions.

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Together, these cases reflect a level of obsession that is exacting an enormous toll on the minor hockey system. Local volunteers must now follow lawyer-designed protocols to deal with problem parents, lest the matter wind up in civil or criminal courts. At the country’s biggest association, the Greater Toronto Hockey League, meetings over discipline or player transfers have evolved into a kind of shadow justice system—complete with lawyers, scheduled hearings and rules of procedure. The effects are wide-ranging: frazzled organizers, rising registration fees to cover legal costs and stagnant enrolment due to a growing sense among young families that the game is consumed by adversarial politics. One president of a minor hockey association in southern Ontario told Maclean’s that this year, for the first time, she couldn’t find a coach for one of her bantam teams. “There were four or five fathers on the team who had their coaching cards,” says Donna Horan, of New Tecumseth. “But they wouldn’t do it. I chalk that up to abuse. It’s not the game and it’s not the kids. It’s the adults that ruin it.”
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Local associations are reaching out to parents to get them to "train" them to better behave, but how many will willingly participate?


Could this be the cause of some/all of the lack of growth of grass roots hockey in Canada?

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I've been considering getting back into reffing. Haven't done it since I was in high school though, and I'm 31 now. I work in law enforcement so parents yelling at me for missing a hooking call isn't going phase me.

That said, I've talked to one co-worker whose son is in Midget, he said that association would probably hire me in heartbeat, while my wife's uncle, whose kids are in Atom says some associations won't hire older guys like me as they want to develop young refs. We'll see how it goes. My shift work and availability might deter them anyway.

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wheres that so called "hockey ambassador" wayne gretzky on this issue? wheres don cherry? ron maclean?

its kinda sad that i don't see any present (sidney crosby) or retired NHLers (wayne gretzky, mario lemieux) speaking out on the issue of pushy hockey parents, making hockey less fun among canadian youth..

as long as hockey canada continues making money, i guess, everyone in the sport of hockey will ignore it.....who cares...

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My high school soccer coach made a rule where if your parents misbehaved in the stands, the kid wouldn't play the rest of the game. Got some parents to shape up quick.

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I've been considering getting back into reffing. Haven't done it since I was in high school though, and I'm 31 now. I work in law enforcement so parents yelling at me for missing a hooking call isn't going phase me.

That said, I've talked to one co-worker whose son is in Midget, he said that association would probably hire me in heartbeat, while my wife's uncle, whose kids are in Atom says some associations won't hire older guys like me as they want to develop young refs. We'll see how it goes. My shift work and availability might deter them anyway.
Article says that the **turn over** in officiating is 10,000 per year!! That's a lot of kids (of any age ) turning away from officiating. And that may impact officials for NHL down the road.

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Two Points

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I've been considering getting back into reffing. Haven't done it since I was in high school though, and I'm 31 now. I work in law enforcement so parents yelling at me for missing a hooking call isn't going phase me.

That said, I've talked to one co-worker whose son is in Midget, he said that association would probably hire me in heartbeat, while my wife's uncle, whose kids are in Atom says some associations won't hire older guys like me as they want to develop young refs. We'll see how it goes. My shift work and availability might deter them anyway.
Two Points.

Associations do not hire on ice officials. They will simply direct you to the body that does.

Age is not a barrier. In Québec, on ice officials start at ages older than 31, some in their fifties. Just get the single letter youth games and the awkward hour adult games at the lower levels.

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School Hockey

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My high school soccer coach made a rule where if your parents misbehaved in the stands, the kid wouldn't play the rest of the game. Got some parents to shape up quick.
One of the advantages of school hockey is that the games are played mainly weekdays, before supper time. Parents work.

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Two Points.

Associations do not hire on ice officials. They will simply direct you to the body that does.

Age is not a barrier. In Québec, on ice officials start at ages older than 31, some in their fifties. Just get the single letter youth games and the awkward hour adult games at the lower levels.
Out here you apply directly to your hometown association. They're the ones that train and certify you, albeit only to a certain level.

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That's not unique to hockey, you'll find that in any sport. At least in hockey you have only a few positions, which must lead to a bit less ' but my kid plays this position, not that one' going on.

'Well maybe if your kid learned to catch, throw or pass or got fit he could play that position'. Man some parents are deluded.

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