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04-13-2014, 08:27 AM
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Minnesota got blitzed in the first period. Lets see what happens with Skjei. There is no rush to make a decision. The Pack aren't in the AHL playoffs and there are only 2 games left next week. The spring semester ends next month.
Id definitely prefer to see him in College one more year.

He isn't there yet with the puck, another year could be huge for him.

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The NCAA is a good league. Will he be a good top 4 D in the AHL next year? No, I don't think so. Much rather see him on a top pair another year in the NCAA.

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Id definitely prefer to see him in College one more year.

He isn't there yet with the puck, another year could be huge for him.
If we had any kind of decent AHL coach, I'd disagree.

But we don't, so I won't.

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Skjei should definitely spend another year in the NCAA.

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Skjei made this comment last night

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“We felt we were in the whole game. Two goals are nothing. We were never out of it, we kept battling. Hats off to the seniors for an unbelievable career. This one’s tough, but we’ll come back next year.” — Minnesota’s Brady Skjei on the comeback attempt in the third period.
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/new...p_notebook.php

Three years of school didn't hurt McDonagh and Shattenkirk. Skjei really improved from his freshman year.

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The thing that strikes me the most about NCAA teams now compared to a decade ago is how good the average skater is now.

Union built a winning team, no scholarships, school of 2000 students, by recruiting good skaters and disciplined players. Ghost the only draft pick on the team.

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The thing that strikes me the most about NCAA teams now compared to a decade ago is how good the average skater is now.

Union built a winning team, no scholarships, school of 2000 students, by recruiting good skaters and disciplined players. Ghost the only draft pick on the team.
Yeah, something has happend here.

I really haven't been close to any better teams the last handful of years, probably even a bit longer. But here in Sweden when I stopped playing, like from 10-15 years ago, there was a big diffrence between each tier so to speak. If a good team played a team a tier higher than them, it didn't take much to have the game end 11-0 or something like that. The better teams just moved so much better. Last year during the lockout, it was obvious how good the second tier league in Sweden is nowadays. Kopitar, Hagelin, Bobby Ryan, Cam Fowler and co, they of course stood out but nobody dominated. We could see in the OG's how Slovenia and co could play against the best. My old team played a SHL team in preseason and actually kept it pretty close. When I stopped playing, we could loose 13-0 against the better teams in the 2nd tier league.

The obvious diffrence from 10-15 years ago is definitely that players nowadays are thaught how to move on the ice, the diffrence between the guys that skates like it was what god built them to do, don't skate "that" much better than the avg Joe. The diffrence is just not that big anymore. Better training, better coaches etc.

With that diffrence, its going to take more and more in terms of skill and especially building a -- team game -- to be succesful. There is still some room to keep it close and live on top guns on a PP and strength infront of the nets etc, but its probably becoming smaller and smaller.

What I especially like about the NCAA is that its much much more of a competetive league than a development league, seen in the light of the WHL, OHL and the QMJHL... And that it paying off when it comes to developing players too.

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Skjei should absolutely not spend another year in college. It was absurd he wasn't on the PP full time over some of the clowns his head coach was using there. He should be in the AHL next season, on the PP the full two minutes and playing 20 minutes a night. He's wasting his time at this point college. He also needs to start learning to use his size and speed against men which are in the AHL instead of the water bugs that play in college.

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Keep in mind that signing Skjei immediately means that he burns contract years in the AHL, as opposed to the NCAA which s essentially free development.

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Skjei's development as a player strikes me as very similar to McDonagh's. He's going to take care of his own end first before he worries about the offense. This is how I'd prefer defensemen to break in to the pros. There is an advantage that going through college gives a kid over a kid who goes the CHL way where they'll push harder for defensemen to be more offensive and then they move on to the pros at 20 years old. Really there's not much more that Ryan McDonagh can do on skates than John Moore but McDonagh is a far better player. Moore's been having to learn his position as a pro. McDonagh was fundamentally sound when he turned pro. The offensive part of his game has gradually got better. Skjei's going to be fundamentally sound at playing his position by the time he turns pro--he'll also be more mature physically at 21 or 22 years old when he turns pro. He's following a similar track IMO to McDonagh's.

I think Skjei could turn pro and do fairly well next year but I also think he'd be better off in the long run staying at Minnesota U. for another year.

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That was a great game to watch last night. Congrats on Union winning it's first ever title!! As for Skjei, he didn't really have the best game and it ended up with him on the bench. It happens. I think he should stay one more year. He'll be good to go the year after.

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The question that remains is who will return? Co-captain Nate Condon, Serratore, Jake Parenteau, Justin Holl and Michael Shibrowski will all be lost to graduation. The small departing senior class means 79 percent of the Gophers’ regular skaters should return.

That’s if professional hockey doesn’t lure some of them away. Standout defensemen Mike Reilly and Brady Skjei will be heavily pursued, as will forwards Kyle Rau and Fasching. Goalie Adam Wilcox is another significant target. Twelve of the Gophers’ 14 drafted players still have at least one year of college hockey eligibility remaining.
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Stepan played two years. Kreider played three. McDonagh played three.

If youre good, youre good. Doesnt matter where they develop.

Skjei is still two or three years away regardless of where he plays.

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Troy Donnay and Guelph are still going in the OHL playoffs. They open against Guelph in the West Finals on Thursday. Ryan Graves and Val-d'Or will play Halifax in the semifinals on Friday. Mackenzie Skapski and Kootenay are up 3-2 on Medicine Hat in the quarterfinals; they play tonight at home with a chance to close it out. Skapski sat on the bench for the last game, and Wyatt Hoflin allowed 9 goals on 53 shots.

Outside of the kids in the AHL and ECHL that wrap up this weekend, the only other prospect still playing is Thomas Spelling, whose SønderjyskE team is up 3-2 on Herning in the Danish League finals.

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That was a great game to watch last night. Congrats on Union winning it's first ever title!! As for Skjei, he didn't really have the best game and it ended up with him on the bench. It happens. I think he should stay one more year. He'll be good to go the year after.
None of the Gophers had their best game. However, Reilly is Lucia's boy and he continued to get prime ice time even after getting beat on several occasions. Brady did not belong on the bench and yet there he was. I don't think this coach trusts him as much as he should and therefore his growth is being stunted in Minn. Move on Brady; The idea that he somehow stood out in a negative way is ridiculous. Union was tenacious and got their chances (many of them) but Skjei/Holl were the best of the three pairs.

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Three years of school didn't hurt McDonagh and Shattenkirk. Skjei really improved from his freshman year.
Good for Him. Looks like a nice player.

That kid on Union was A M A ZING. Holy Cr@p. What a player. He's gonna give us head aches as Flyer for years.

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None of the Gophers had their best game. However, Reilly is Lucia's boy and he continued to get prime ice time even after getting beat on several occasions. Brady did not belong on the bench and yet there he was. I don't think this coach trusts him as much as he should and therefore his growth is being stunted in Minn. Move on Brady; The idea that he somehow stood out in a negative way is ridiculous. Union was tenacious and got their chances (many of them) but Skjei/Holl were the best of the three pairs.
As an NHL prospect, Mike Reilly sucks but hes their key offensive D. Not at all surprised that he got a ton of ice with the team down in the game.

I think he could more than hold his own in the AHL next year but another year of college would do him good. He'll get more responsibility as a Junior and perhaps even some PP time.

He's a guy who will need little to no time in the A if he stays for a third year and its not like the Rangers need the help on LD ASAP - His ETA will probably be fall 2015 regardless of which route he chooses.

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#NYR Hearing that the Rangers are closing in on college free agent Mat Bodie, offensive defenseman from Union College


saw this on twitter..anyone know anything about him?

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saw this on twitter..anyone know anything about him?
The Union defense owned the BC offense in their game in the Frozen Four. The Gophers experienced the same fate. That group was solid. From what I remember, their top 4 derived their success. The reaction on twitter is that Bodie was statistically better than their most hyped player, Shane Gostisbehere, but is also 3 years older.

He could be a steal. Gives us even more defensive depth. This is great news.

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#NYR Hearing that the Rangers are closing in on college free agent Mat Bodie, offensive defenseman from Union College


saw this on twitter..anyone know anything about him?
Couple things about Bodie...

1. Great leader. He's the kind of guy to get a locker room in the right place.
2. Older Senior. He's not quite Gilroy's age but not far from it.
3. He always seems to score against SLU

I saw him, like Baker, as an AHL prospect, but his number got called a lot more after the NCAA championship game.

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Couple things about Bodie...

1. Great leader. He's the kind of guy to get a locker room in the right place.
2. Older Senior. He's not quite Gilroy's age but not far from it.
3. He always seems to score against SLU

I saw him, like Baker, as an AHL prospect, but his number got called a lot more after the NCAA championship game.
So below McIlrath and Allen for now? Potential is there?

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So below McIlrath and Allen for now? Potential is there?
Someone said his defense needs a ways to go, but if it develops properly he should be better than Del Zotto.

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So below McIlrath and Allen for now? Potential is there?
I think he has the ability to be a 6-7 guy like Matt Gilroy or Bobby Sanguinetti.

But I'm a guy with a blueliner bias, I like a defenseman who is solid defensively, then worries about offense. That's why I'm a bigger fan of Allen than Bodie.

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I think he has the ability to be a 6-7 guy like Matt Gilroy or Bobby Sanguinetti.

But I'm a guy with a blueliner bias, I like a defenseman who is solid defensively, then worries about offense. That's why I'm a bigger fan of Allen than Bodie.
so organizational depth? I'm with it

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