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03-02-2007, 05:45 AM
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Who was the last player to wear #44? I know Slava Fetisov wore it for a while. Anyone have the history of that #?

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didn't Mark Mowers wear it last year?

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Twas Mowers.
Yan Golubovsky '99-'00. Biggest claim to fame was being traded for Igor Larionov the following season after Igor briefly left via free agency.
Anders Eriksson '97-'99. Biggest claim to fame was being traded for Chris Chelios.
Slava Fetisov '94-'95. Many claims to fame including the Double Triple Gold Club (2 Golds at WC, 2 Golds at Olympics, 2 Stanley Cups).
Gord Kruppke '93-'94. Has no claim to fame.
Glenn Merkosky '89-'90. Biggest claim to fame was coaching Gord Kruppke as an Assistant at Adirondack in '91-'92.

That's as far back as I can find without digging too hard.


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Twas Mowers.
Yan Golubovsky '99-'00. Biggest claim to fame was being traded for Igor Larionov the following season after Igor briefly left via free agency.
Anders Eriksson '97-'99. Biggest claim to fame was being traded for Chris Chelios.
Slava Fetisov '94-'95. Many claims to fame including the Double Triple Gold Club (2 Golds at WC, 2 Golds at Olympics, 2 Stanley Cups).
Gord Kruppke '93-'94. Has no claim to fame.
Glenn Merkosky '89-'90. Biggest claim to fame was coaching Gord Kruppke as an Assistant at Adirondack in '91-'92.

That's as far back as I can find without digging too hard.
Thats the entire list. Bertuzzi will only be the 6th Red Wings to wear that number.

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Twas Mowers.
Yan Golubovsky '99-'00.
Are we sure about this? I don't know about you guys but I dont know how I feel about seeing a Wing's #44 that doesn't have GOLUBOVSKY on the back. I'm not sure I'm ready to move on from the Goober era just yet. Its still fresh in my heart and mind; tough to let go after only 8 years.

Maybe Bert can take some other insignificant number like #16 or 19.

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Great! Where you digging these #'s up? I couldn't find a historical numerical roster on the Wings site.

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I used hockeydb. They have numbers for the rosters back to the mid/early 80s and then only sporatically further back.

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Great! Where you digging these #'s up? I couldn't find a historical numerical roster on the Wings site.

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NN lives for this stuff. He's got all that stuff stored away in that hockey addict head of his. Who needs a database when you're a Mod on a Wings forum? They don't just let anyone try to corral those legions of self-proclaimed experts! ( And it's a good thing for me I don't use that other forum or I'd face the wrath of NN!)

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I used hockeydb. They have numbers for the rosters back to the mid/early 80s and then only sporatically further back.

I demand that you delete this post. I like my explanation better.

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My Google-fu is also very strong.

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My Google-fu is also very strong.


Shouldn't you be over in the prospect thread helping Ryno out? Instead I find you over here helping people find answers to their hockey questions? What nerve. You need to be stopped.

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I used hockeydb. They have numbers for the rosters back to the mid/early 80s and then only sporatically further back.

Ah Ralphies project! I sure hope the NHL is paying him. I know planty of hockey teams use that site. I was too lazy this am.
I've been working on numbers for the IHL. He's missing a few years and I've been searching media guides, programs, game notes and such.

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I am a geek and I collect Red Wings Media Guides. I have one for every year dating back to 1974.

They have all the players and the jersey #'s they wore in the back of the media guide. Thats where I got my info.

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