I can't believe what I'm seeing on these boards, every single thread that talks about next years roster seems to think we have to get rid of Bonk...WTH!
He is by far our best cheking forward and he's probably been the only consistent forward on the team all year. You guys seem to think that all wee need is 3 first lines with only scoring forward and a 4th "agitator" line. Well that agitator line will never be able to compete against the top lines game in and game out. And we dont have good enough first line talent to play the against guys like Spezza - Heatley.
I can't believe what I'm seeing on these boards, every single thread that talks about next years roster seems to think we have to get rid of Bonk...WTH!
He is by far our best cheking forward and he's probably been the only consistent forward on the team all year. You guys seem to think that all wee need is 3 first lines with only scoring forward and a 4th "agitator" line. Well that agitator line will never be able to compete against the top lines game in and game out. And we dont have good enough first line talent to play the against guys like Spezza - Heatley.
Point is BONK NEEDS TO STAY
i agree...but we should only re-sign him if he takes a slight paycut...no more than 2 mil...
No one dislikes Bonk this season. The only reservation fans have about him is his salary. If he and Johnson leave, the Habs will give up even more goals than usual because they have a porous D. Plekanec is a good two-way player but he can't check big players like Sundin as well as Bonk can.
We don't need him. Do we look any better than we did last year with Plekanec on the 3rd line?
on the contrary, hes underraited Bonk, hes been one of our only consistant forwards, we will be even worse next year without him.
Pleks will be our #2 next year most likely again, we will need to probably sign atleast one more center as a UFA so I guess its up in the air.
Hes played against all the other teams top lines all season and done a great job scored some big goals, killed penaltys and is a plus player, hes worth the money. Hes worth what sammy is getting paid, he might not show up on the score sheet but he plays the checking line center role exceptionally well.
No one dislikes Bonk this season. The only reservation fans have about him is his salary. If he and Johnson leave, the Habs will give up even more goals than usual because they have a porous D.
How is it not good value if your checking centre is paid $2.3M and OUTSCORES the opponents' $5M scoring centre one-on-one?
He's playing well but Plekanec can do his job for 1/4 of the price. The amount of production relative to the amount of money they are making matters more than just performance in the cap world.
He's playing well but Plekanec can do his job for 1/4 of the price. The amount of production relative to the amount of money they are making matters more than just performance in the cap world.
I think it sums up everything that has to be said on the matter.
He's playing well but Plekanec can do his job for 1/4 of the price. The amount of production relative to the amount of money they are making matters more than just performance in the cap world.
I just said that! If our 3rd line centre can outscore the other teams's first line centre who earns $2Mor $3M more than him, then it is good for the team!
Now, if Plekanec at $1M (next year) can outscore other 2nd line centres, we win again!
We just need a first line centre who can be a + player.
He's playing well but Plekanec can do his job for 1/4 of the price. The amount of production relative to the amount of money they are making matters more than just performance in the cap world.
Yeah, but sometimes you just have to spend. You can have a borderline guy that can score 5 goals and 5 assists per year for 500k. But a guy who scores 30 goals with 30 assists isn't necessarily worth 2.5 million, he's worth more like 3.5 - 5.5 million depending on his leadership and defensive game. You can't just say production relative to salary and get a winning team. Sometimes you have to overspend for a player if he's going to score big points, and put your team over the top even if a younger player can do almost as well for a million less. Because in the NHL a little can lose you a lot of games.
Of course hes not worth 2+million. When he got that contract he was averiging about 70 points per season (if you set his production on a 82 games basis) we should be able to sign him at about 1.5 mil and thats we we need to keep him. I highly doubt anyone will offer him 2 million
Of course hes not worth 2+million. When he got that contract he was averiging about 70 points per season (if you set his production on a 82 games basis) we should be able to sign him at about 1.5 mil and thats we we need to keep him. I highly doubt anyone will offer him 2 million
Better get informed on the Sens' board on who Bonk was playing with to get those 70 points
I would offer Bonk 1.5 million but not more. He is good but replaceable at the same time. If we keep him as a center and Pleks development, and Grabosky, maybe allow us to trade Koivu this summer or next trade deadline.
Better get informed on the Sens' board on who Bonk was playing with to get those 70 points
I thinkl you misunderstood me. I'm not saying we should sign him because he could get 70 points for us (which he won't).
What I'm saying is the only reason his salary is so high is because of those years he spent playing with the big guys in Ottawa. Now we should deff be able to sign him at about 1.5mil per
I thinkl you misunderstood me. I'm not saying we should sign him because he could get 70 points for us (which he won't).
What I'm saying is the only reason his salary is so high is because of those years he spent playing with the big guys in Ottawa. Now we should deff be able to sign him at about 1.5mil per
I don't want to go another year with;
Koivu
Plekanec
Bonk
Lapierre
Down the middle. We aren't gonna go anywhere with this crew.
Yeah, but sometimes you just have to spend. You can have a borderline guy that can score 5 goals and 5 assists per year for 500k. But a guy who scores 30 goals with 30 assists isn't necessarily worth 2.5 million, he's worth more like 3.5 - 5.5 million depending on his leadership and defensive game. You can't just say production relative to salary and get a winning team. Sometimes you have to overspend for a player if he's going to score big points, and put your team over the top even if a younger player can do almost as well for a million less. Because in the NHL a little can lose you a lot of games.
The area we have to spend in is a #2 centre and maybe some D. We've got Pleks and he can do the 3rd line job for cheap with good production.
Down the middle. We aren't gonna go anywhere with this crew.
I agree completly but the problem there isint Bonk. Actually at the 3rd center spot he is the ONLY one who is in the right place.
We need a top 2 guy and then we can just move Pleks to the wing, or hell just put Bonk on the fourth and use him on the PK, or moe bonk to the wing. Honestly we have to many ood young players we need a strong veteran guy down the middle. Drury would be perfect...but the prob won't happen
Right there you have three lines that can score with a fourth line that can play against the big guns and hit everything that moves. And if you want Lapierre in put him in place of Begin or Tender.
Of course this is all wishfull thinking that we could get Drury
I like Bonk but like those before me have said where would he fit, Koivu will be back, as will Plekanec and most likely Lapierre. That leaves 1 C spot while most of us would prefer to sign a top line C to take the 1/ 2 spot and bump Plex down making our third line amazing. If such a C could not be signed i would not be opposed to bringing Bonk back.
I like Bonk but like those before me have said where would he fit, Koivu will be back, as will Plekanec and most likely Lapierre. That leaves 1 C spot while most of us would prefer to sign a top line C to take the 1/ 2 spot and bump Plex down making our third line amazing. If such a C could not be signed i would not be opposed to bringing Bonk back.
Eventually, the club will have to choose between Plekanec and Koivu as the #2 centre.
