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03-07-2007, 08:40 PM
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alex stojanov for markus naslund.

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03-07-2007, 08:41 PM
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that zubov trade sucked

but i have a gut feeling this bourret for dupuis trade is gonna be one rangers best ever

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True, but they did give up a major chip in Lindros. To aquire arguably the best goalie of all-time and another crucial piece in winning the Cup they gave up very little.
The return out of the Lindros trade was much more than the Roy trade though and the chip we landed Roy with (Thibault) came out of the Lindros trade

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Morris Ballard for Gratton Vaananen might end up worse long term depending how Ballard pans out.
We've slavaged Stastny out of that trade which moves it above unloading Drury.

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Best for Toronto

The Calgary-Toronto Trade

Worst for Toronto

Costelo for Sittler

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03-08-2007, 08:51 AM
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St Louis:Brett Hull from Calgary/
The Flames got Rob Ramage and Rick Wamsley, who were important components for the '89 Cup. For that reason, alone, it couldn't be viewed as a bad trade. As was already pointed out, all arguments about the worse trade in Flames history begin and end with sending Doug Gilmour to Toronto.

Excellent Flames trades:

a 2nd round draft pick to San Jose for Miikka Kiprusoff

Theoren Fleury and Chris Digman for Rene Corbet, Wade Belak, choice from a list of prospects - Robyn Regehr and a '99 2nd rounder (Jarrett Stoll). Regehr, alone, was worth everything.

Don Lever and Bob MacMillan to the Colorado Rockies for Lanny McDonald. Interesting bit of coincidence, current Colorado Avalanche coach was originally traded from Toronto to the Rockies with Lanny.

Other organizations (and this thread idea been been done so many times before):

Buffalo's best: sending Stephane Beauregard and Christian Ruutuu to Chicago for Dominik Hasek

Vancouver's best: sending Alex Stojanov (who?) to Pittsburgh for Marcu Naslund

Pittsburgh's best: sending John Cullen and Zarley Zalapski to Hartford for Ron Francis and Ulf Samuelsson

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03-08-2007, 09:23 AM
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Whatever trade the Rangers made to get rid of Sergei Zubov, was their worst deal.

Zubov made that 1994 team along with aging superstars.
I don't know what they got for Zubov.

But is there any of you who knew how the Rags were able to get Zubov...?!?!

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03-08-2007, 09:59 AM
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Florida:

Best

New York Islanders traded Olli Jokien and Roberto Luongo to the Florida Panthers for Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha.

Worst is easily
Luongo to Vancouver



I would like to see the Isle worst list, so many to choose from.

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03-08-2007, 10:34 AM
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Best Blues Trade:

Hull from Calgary

Worst Blues Trade:
Pronger to Edmonton

Honorable Mention:
Keith Tkachuk from Phoenix for Ladislav Nagy, Michal Handzus, and Jeff Taffe (Taffe didn't hurt, but losing Nagy and Handzus really stunted our development)

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03-08-2007, 11:35 AM
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You have to look at the team results though.

Wesley for 3 first round picks seems bad. But Wesley is still playing in his 12th season for the organization. He was an important part of winning the Stanley Cup last season and the other finals appearance.

The Bruins got Kyle Maclaren, Jonathan Aitken and Segei Samsonov.

Bruins 0 Cups and 8 seasons from Samsonov, 7 seasons from McLaren and 3 games from Aitken.

Carolina 1 Cup 2 finals appearances - 12 seasons of veteran leadership.

Hartford/Carolina wins that deal.

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03-08-2007, 11:48 AM
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The Blues set the gold standard for bad trades in the mid-80s - early 90s.

In the mid-80s they had a miserable owner who only survived getting murdered by Blues fans because he saved the team from moving. While he might've done that he was the cheapest SOB to ever live.

In '85, he traded Joe Mullen (who got 45g that year and in the prime of his career) to Calgary for the immortal Charlie Bourgeois, Gino Cavellini, and Eddie Beers after a contract squabble over just a few thousand dollars. Beers was supposed to be the prize, but blew out his knee and never played another game after '86. Mullen would lead Calgary to the Cup Finals in '86 (defeating the Blues in camp. finals of course) and have a great career.

And then of course in '88, most know the story. Dougie Gilmour (25 at the time) was accused of sexual harrassment by his 14yr old babysitter. He was under a ton of public scrutiny in St. Louis and Caron was forced to deal him and Mark Hunter to Calgary for Mike Bullard, Craig Coxe, and Tim Corkery. It was a miserable situation for all involved. Gilmour and Caron both cried after Dougie's departure. Gilmour loved St. Louis. The charges were later dropped. Such is life as Blues fan.

And then the topper was in 1990-91 (which is largely considered the worst in franchise history), when the Blues had a terrific team (Stevens, Hull, Oates, Brind 'Amour, Joseph) and were first overall in the conference at the trade deadline. Brian Sutter was enfatuated with guys like Garth Butcher and Caron didn't think the team was tough enough. So they unbelievably deal off Geoff Courtnall, Cliff Ronning, Sergio Momesso and Robert Dirk to Vancouver for Butcher and Dan Quinn.

Basically they traded 2/3rd of their second line and most of their secondary scoring which just allowed teams to double team Hull cause there was no other threat offensively. They had no depth and bowed out to the North Stars in the second round. Stevens would be awarded to NJ in the offseason. And that was that.


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03-08-2007, 12:29 PM
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Atlanta

Best:
Marc Savard to Atlanta - Ruslan Zainullin to Calgary


Worst:
Brian Pothier to Ottawa - Shawn McEachern to Atlanta

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Edmonton Oilers:

Worst -

Gretzky trade!
Mark Messier for Louie DeBrusk, Steve Rice and Bernie Nicholls
Miro Satan for Barrie Moore and Craig Millar
Geoff Courtnall for Greg Adams (not the Devils/Canucks Adams)


Best -

Steve Smith for Dave Manson
Andy Moog for Bill Ranford and Geoff Courtnall
Craig McTavish for Todd Marchant
Esa Tikkanen for Doug Weight
Shayne Corson & 2 1st Round Picks for Curtis Joseph and Mike Grier
*Getting Bryan Marchment as compensation for Steve Rice

The Joseph trade was this:
St Louis signs Corson, Edmonton is awarded the Blues first round picks which St Louis wanted so they could try to sign Broduer as a RFA so to get them back they traded Joseph and Grier for them.

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03-08-2007, 05:48 PM
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IMO, the best Wild trades I can think of is Roloson for a 1st at last year's deadline, Or maybe Manny Fernandez and Brad Lukowich for a 3rd rounder and a 4th rounder.

Worst - Andy Sutton for Hnat Domenchelli.

The Jagr trade as the worst for Pittsburgh?

These two from the Mad Mike hall of fame are pretty bad:
Roberto Luongo and Olli Jokinen for Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha
Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan McCabe, 3rd rounder (Jarkko Ruutu) for Trevor Linden
and obviously Spezza, Chara and Muckalt for Yashin.

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03-08-2007, 06:18 PM
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I think for Phoenix the worst was Briere and a 2nd for Gratton and a 3rd.

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Dallas's two best off the top of my head:
Kevin Hatcher to PIT in exchange for Sergei Zubov.
Todd Harvey + Bob Errey to NYR in exchange for Mike Keane + Brian Skrudland.

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03-08-2007, 07:53 PM
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Sabres best:
Robert for Shack
Hasek for Beauregard + 4th (Daze)
Peca + Wilson + 1st (McKee) for Mogliny
Dumont + Gilmour for Grosek
Briere + 3rd for Gratton + 4th
Lydman for 3rd
Drury + Begin for Reinprecht (via Colorado: Keith Ballard) + Warrener

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03-08-2007, 07:57 PM
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Detroit

Worst: (pick any of these)
- D Red Kelly to TOR for F Marc Rheaume
- C Adam Oates and F Paul MacLean to STL for F Bernie Federko and F Tony McKegney.
- F Ted Lindsay and G Glenn Hall to CHI for C Forbes Kennedy, LW Johnny Wilson, G Hank Bassen, and Bill Preston (who never played a game).
- C Marcel Dionne and D Bart Crashley to LAK for D Terry Harper, LW Dan Maloney, and a 2nd round pick.
- F Petr Klima, D Jeff Sharples, F Adam Graves, and RW Joe Murphy to EDM for C Jimmy Carson, RW Kevin McClelland, and a 5th round pick.
- F Frank Mahovlich and D Bart Crashley to MTL for F Garry Monahan and D Doug Piper.
- Giving BOS G Terry Sawchuk, then trading F Johnny Bucyk to get him back.

Best:
- 4th round pick to TOR for D Larry Murphy.
- D Steve Chiasson to CGY for G Mike Vernon.
- D Anders Eriksson and two 1st round picks for D Chris Chelios.

I'll think of more good ones. It's just so easy to find bad ones.....

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03-08-2007, 08:11 PM
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Mike Milbury dealing Luongo and Jokinen to Florida for Parrish and Kvasha has to be one of the worse deals in league history.

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The Flames got Rob Ramage and Rick Wamsley, who were important components for the '89 Cup. For that reason, alone, it couldn't be viewed as a bad trade. As was already pointed out, all arguments about the worse trade in Flames history begin and end with sending Doug Gilmour to Toronto.

Excellent Flames trades:

a 2nd round draft pick to San Jose for Miikka Kiprusoff

Theoren Fleury and Chris Digman for Rene Corbet, Wade Belak, choice from a list of prospects - Robyn Regehr and a '99 2nd rounder (Jarrett Stoll). Regehr, alone, was worth everything.

Don Lever and Bob MacMillan to the Colorado Rockies for Lanny McDonald. Interesting bit of coincidence, current Colorado Avalanche coach was originally traded from Toronto to the Rockies with Lanny.

Other organizations (and this thread idea been been done so many times before):

Buffalo's best: sending Stephane Beauregard and Christian Ruutuu to Chicago for Dominik Hasek

Vancouver's best: sending Alex Stojanov (who?) to Pittsburgh for Marcu Naslund

Pittsburgh's best: sending John Cullen and Zarley Zalapski to Hartford for Ron Francis and Ulf Samuelsson

Getting Riseborough for a second round pick was a steal for you guys

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Detroit

- F Frank Mahovlich and D Bart Crashley to MTL for F Garry Monahan and D Doug Piper.
We gave up Mickey Redmond, Charron and Collins for the Big M. A good trade for both teams. Habs were looking for a veteran to help them win a few more cups and Redmond was a young, sniper for a rebuilding Detroit team.

- A bad one for Detriot with Montreal would be the Habs stealing Peter Mahovlich on waivers

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I don't know what they got for Zubov.

But is there any of you who knew how the Rags were able to get Zubov...?!?!
please tell.

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Ottawa's worst is probably sending Demitra to St. Louis for Christer Olsson.

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A Few Dogs for the Hawks.......

Belfour to the Sharks for Chris Terreri, Ulf Dahlen and Michal Sykora.

Chelios to the dead things for Anders Eriksson and 1st round selection (Steve McCarthy) in 1999 and 1st round selection (Adam Munro) in 2001.

Doug Gilmour and Jean-Pierre Dumont to the Sabres for Michal Grosek.

Hasek to the Sabres for Stephane Beauregard and 4th round selection (Eric Daze) in 1993.

Now I'm depressed.

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It's kinda hard to slam teams for trading non-prospects for prospects and one or more of the prospects just happens to pan out bigtime.

Here are just some of the ones I remember that weren't based mainly on picks or prospects:

Toronto Worst: Gilmour to Calgary for Leeman

St. Louis Worst/Vancouver's Best: St. Louis' 2nd line (Courtnall, Ronning, etc) for Vancouver's 4th line

Boston's Worst/San Jose's Best: Joe Thorton trade

LA Kings Best: Brent Thompson for a 2nd round draft choice, Worst: 2nd round draft choice for Dan Cloutier.

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Good trade for Calgary: Joe Nieuwendyk for Corey Millen and Jarome Iginla.

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