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05-02-2014, 10:28 AM
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Phaneuf (25% retained) + 8th overall

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05-02-2014, 10:32 AM
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Murray needs to channel his inner-Burkie and acquire the Sam twins. What are the Cats looking for?

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05-02-2014, 10:46 AM
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You didn't follow the full conversation. I never said this draft was like 2010, I was responding to the other poster that said this draft is like the 2010 and 2012 draft in that: "The gap between the top 3 and the 7-9 range isn't as obvious as other drafts" and that because of that, he could see Florida trading down.

My point is that if HE feels that way (not saying I agree), there was no way a GM would have traded down from #1 to the 7-10 spots in those drafts and I don't see it happening now. I think even you are agree on 2010 and 2012 because you are saying no way they would have done it in 2010..and that in 2012, the top 5 were interchangeable.

Obviously anything can happen for the right price, but in the last 15 years, no GM has ever traded #1 pick other than by moving down a couple of spots. I may end up being wrong in the end, but I don't see FLA moving down further than the 3-4 spot (if they even trade it).
Said the fan of the team with the #8 pick....

There is a significant gap this year after the top 3 then another gap between 5 and 6.

No Stamkos but players of similar hype to Kane in the top 3. Players then get more flawed as you go down.

If Florida is moving their pick it'll be for a another to 3 and an extra asset.

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05-02-2014, 10:51 AM
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Edmonton offers 3rd OA plus the right to swap 1st round picks in 2015 for 1st OA.

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05-02-2014, 10:59 AM
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Ekblad will not be as good as Myers if that's what you were thinking
Thinking more of both Sam's

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05-02-2014, 11:10 AM
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RW Nail Yakupov OR RW Jordan Eberle
LD Martin Marincin OR LD Oscar Klefbom

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FLA 1st '14

Panthers get either a proven elite young RW with 34 and 28 goals to his name or a former first overall... plus either 6'3 smooth skating two way Swedish D or a 6'5 Slovak Who plays more a stay at home style... either defender helps FLA today

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05-02-2014, 11:15 AM
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Edmonton . Yakupov + . Yakupov will probably end up better then anyone in this draft as a goal score , but a deal like this lets Edmonton become more balance and gives Florida a winger for one of their big centres . I know Oiler fans will not like the fact i had a plus , but the fact is there is a risk factor . I am also an Oiler fan so it would depend on us agreeing on the +
give up the dream!

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05-02-2014, 11:17 AM
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RW Nail Yakupov OR RW Jordan Eberle
LD Martin Marincin OR LD Oscar Klefbom

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FLA 1st '14

Panthers get either a proven elite young RW with 34 and 28 goals to his name or a former first overall... plus either 6'3 smooth skating two way Swedish D or a 6'5 Slovak Who plays more a stay at home style... either defender helps FLA today
Playing a little fast and loose with the term "proven elite."

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05-02-2014, 11:23 AM
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Playing a little fast and loose with the term "proven elite."
It doesn't really matter, that's a horrible trade for the Oilers.

SchultzSquared has never met a terrible trade proposal he didn't post.

I wouldn't do the third overall plus swapping picks either.

The Oilers are likely to miss the playoffs again next year and no team wants to be the one handing Connor McDavid to another club.

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05-02-2014, 11:24 AM
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How about...

Nashville
1st overall pick

Florida
Seth Jones

The Preds draft Reinhart/Bennett and get their future #1 center. I would jump at that if I were Tallon but I doubt the Preds have any interest in letting Jones go.
If Nashville is willing to do this for Bennet than they should give Edmonton a ring, They would be happy to trade #3 Overall if Bennet is left on the board for Seth Jones.

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05-02-2014, 11:28 AM
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Phaneuf + Lupul + Rights to Bolland + 8th for 1st +

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05-02-2014, 11:30 AM
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Edmonton would make the most sense, they need ekblad

Not sure what the fair offer would be though

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05-02-2014, 11:30 AM
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Derek Stepan and John Moore
Wishful thinking.
Too early to say a generational pick is here, but earliest guys could be franchise calibre.

Improved offer:
Rangers 2014, 2016 and 2017 1st round picks
Stepan
Girardi
J. Moore

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2014 1st overall
2015 FL 1st

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Gamble, both sides:
Adds 3 immediate assets for FL + picks but missed chance to get another special guy to pair w/Barkov

Rangers get talent upgrade to add to foundations Kreider, McDonagh, which seems necessary ultimately to compete w/elite teams (Chicago, LA, Pitt, Ana, etc) at risk of being thin in spots. A better team if guys stepping up can do well enough with these special picks added; flip side is less depth if anybody is injured.

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05-02-2014, 11:36 AM
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We hear this every year. I doubt they trade it. However, if they are shopping it I could see the Flames going after it, new GM + Burke will wanna put their stamp on the team.

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05-02-2014, 12:07 PM
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I wonder if something along the lines of this could be worked out:

To Edmonton: 1st overall pick, Kulikov/Gudbranson

To Florida: 3rd overall pick, Yakupov

Florida goes with Draisaitl or Bennett at 3, Edmonton obviously takes Ekblad.
I've seen this proposal way too many times. It doesn't make sense. Panthers would be sewering themselves defensively. They lose a young top 4 D (Kuli/Gud) then pass on Ekblad on top of that? No chance.

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05-02-2014, 12:10 PM
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@DamoSpin: Florida GM Dale Tallon told PTS he is actively shopping the No. 1 pick in this summer's NHL draft. Not just accepting offers - shopping it.

Who's going to make the trade? What does everyone think it would take to get the first overall pick?
The better question is...When is Tallon NOT shopping his first rounder. Seems every year he comes out and says something like this..It's so redundant. I know he's trying to drum up interest through the media but this isn't news. More newsworthy would be if a GM came out and said they weren't shopping the 1st overall pick. You'd have to really suck at your job if you didn't take calls/offers for your assets.

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05-02-2014, 12:14 PM
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We hear this every year. I doubt they trade it. However, if they are shopping it I could see the Flames going after it, new GM + Burke will wanna put their stamp on the team.
I agree with this being a likely scenario so the Flames can grab Reinhart. Maybe Calgary's 1st + Baertschi + Colorado's 2nd would get it done.

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05-02-2014, 12:22 PM
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Edmonton would make the most sense, they need ekblad

Not sure what the fair offer would be though
Edmonton would most likely add to their 3rd overall pick to get it, I doubt they give up a roster player for a draft pick. That would be a step back in their rebuild.

I would look at trades in the past where teams moved up from 3rd to 1st, I believe it only cost them something like a 2nd rounder or something to move up the extra two spots.

Edmonton needs Ekblad, but they also need a Bennett/Drasaitl/Reinhart for their #2C spot...

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05-02-2014, 12:25 PM
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I don't know if you know this or not, but one of the qualifications of being a 50 pt winger, is scoring 50 pts.....

That's why I asked if Toronto would need to retain salary..
flash can be counted for ~45-50 points. he had 1 bad season and he's a cap dump

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I wish GMs with the #1 pick would learn to say "We're going to do our due diligence, but I doubt we'll trade it."
Pretty sure Colorado came out and said that they would not only be keeping the 1st but that they'd be taking MacKinnon with it. It didn't keep the media from endlessly debating Jones v Drouin v Mackinnon or trade the pick.

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Do the oilers really think they can get Gudbranson/Kulikov + 1st OA for Yak??? That would destroy Florida's D

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05-02-2014, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bernmeister View Post
Wishful thinking.
Too early to say a generational pick is here, but earliest guys could be franchise calibre.

Improved offer:
Rangers 2014, 2016 and 2017 1st round picks
Stepan
Girardi
J. Moore

for
2014 1st overall
2015 FL 1st

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Gamble, both sides:
Adds 3 immediate assets for FL + picks but missed chance to get another special guy to pair w/Barkov

Rangers get talent upgrade to add to foundations Kreider, McDonagh, which seems necessary ultimately to compete w/elite teams (Chicago, LA, Pitt, Ana, etc) at risk of being thin in spots. A better team if guys stepping up can do well enough with these special picks added; flip side is less depth if anybody is injured.

Fortune favors the bold. no Nike, but just do it anyway!
For a guy that preaches "talent upgrade" in every proposal, you sure are fond of shipping out proven talented pieces for completely unproven draft picks. This is a talent downgrade IMO.

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05-02-2014, 12:35 PM
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Pretty sure Colorado came out and said that they would not only be keeping the 1st but that they'd be taking MacKinnon with it. It didn't keep the media from endlessly debating Jones v Drouin v Mackinnon or trade the pick.
Roy did say at one point that they were exploring all options. It wasn't til about a week before the draft they said they were taking "one of the forwards." That just stirred up a huge storm around here saying it was a bluff to get a better return on the trade.

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Pretty sure Colorado came out and said that they would not only be keeping the 1st but that they'd be taking MacKinnon with it. It didn't keep the media from endlessly debating Jones v Drouin v Mackinnon or trade the pick.
The time right after the lottery and up until the draft are when you take everything a GM says with a grain of salt. Never know how much of it is real and how much of it is a smoke screen.

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i really want nick ritchie at 5th and would hate to see the panthers get him with their already absolutely huge centers but if it means getting ekblad, what would need to be added to the 5th over all pick from the isles?

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