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Bad Contract Swap: Clarkson + 1st for Horton

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05-03-2014, 10:57 AM
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Bad Contract Swap: Clarkson + 1st for Horton

To Toronto:

Nathan Horton ($5.3 million through 2019-20)

To CBJ:

David Clarkson($5.25 million through 2019-20)

1st round pick

Two huge free agent signing busts. Everyone knows about Clarkson in Toronto, but Horton was pretty bad in Columbus (when healthy, which is rare these days). Both contracts are relatively equal so maybe this is a chance to swap disappointments and hope both players benefit from a change of scenery and style of play.

Clarkson would benefit from being back in a smaller market and his gritty, physical style fits the Jackets identity (and he'd replace Umberger once he's bought out) and Horton adds more of the scoring touch the Leafs were looking for from Clarkson.

Both contracts are bad no matter which team is paying them but I think both players would be better on the other team.

Horton is better player than Clarkson so the Leafs would have to add to the deal, and maybe even retain some salary, as opposed to just a one-for-one swap. A 1st round pick should do it. The extra first could help the CBJ put a trade package together for the real top line winger Johansen needs.

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05-03-2014, 11:01 AM
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Horton's contract is no where near as bad as Clarkson's. A 1st doesn't make up the difference.

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the only pro I see in horton is that by a couple years he will be sitting on the LTIR like pronger

actually I am willing to pay a first for that, deal

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05-03-2014, 11:06 AM
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Horton, if healthy, was on pace for 43 points. Not great given his contract, but acceptable for one year in the hopes he bounces back.

Clarkson, meanwhile, would only amass a meager 15 points. Even with a high first, I'm not certain I'd want to go anywhere near him.

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05-03-2014, 11:09 AM
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Well Horton wouldn't do it, one of the main reasons he was not interested in staying in Boston was that he wanted to go to a team with less of a "Hockey Market"

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The Clarkson signing is on par with the Habs acquiring Scott Gomez. Any high schooler who follows the NHL seriously could have (would have) told you those were horrible acquisitions.

Horton may be a bad signing (at this point), but nowhere near the same level of Clarkson.

Could the deal you propose work?
Sure, if the Jackets are simply willing to buy an extra 1st rd pick (buy Clarkson out after acquiring him).

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05-03-2014, 11:25 AM
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Nathan horton has a limited no trade clause and Toronto is probably the last place he wanna go, he said that he wants to play in a small city and a small hockey market... Well exactly the opposite of Toronto.

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Horton's contract is much better than Clarkson's and he can still be at least a bit of what is useful to CBJ. It's not worth a 1st to swap.

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It's mind blowing that someone claiming to be a CBJ fan would propose this garbage.

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The Clarkson signing is on par with the Habs acquiring Scott Gomez. Any high schooler who follows the NHL seriously could have (would have) told you those were horrible acquisitions.

Horton may be a bad signing (at this point), but nowhere near the same level of Clarkson.

Could the deal you propose work?
Sure, if the Jackets are simply willing to buy an extra 1st rd pick (buy Clarkson out after acquiring him).
Not on par, we gave up McDonagh too which makes it exponentially worse. And I doubt the buyout would work for Columbus since it can't be used as a compliance buy out. To the OP I don't think Columbus was really upset with Horton's play he just had an unfortunate season with injuries, Clarkson on the other hand...

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We give up a top ten pick JUST to get rid of Clarkson? Leafs pass easily and keep Clarkson.

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I can't wait for Clarkson to have a solid season and a good playoff so people will love him, then for him to suck again and everyone to hate him, then for another good stretch and everyone to love him. Except for a few, who will continuously hate him regardless of production or love him regardless of play. That is the life of a player on HF.

Love-hate-love-hate-terrible-good-elite-terrible-elite. Depends how they played that week whether they are elite or an ahlers on here.

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We give up a top ten pick JUST to get rid of Clarkson? Leafs pass easily and keep Clarkson.
You're not just getting rid of Clarkson. You're getting rid of Clarkson and the gigantic albatross of a contract he has.

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05-03-2014, 03:31 PM
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Why does Toronto do this? Give up say Ritchie or Nylander who will cost >1 million for three years so we can upgrade on Clarkson? A good ELC off sets the over paying of Clarkson. Instead get Horton that offers nothing long term?

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Leafs are never getting out of the Clarkson contract. It's garbage.

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You're not just getting rid of Clarkson. You're getting rid of Clarkson and the gigantic albatross of a contract he has.
They don't get out of it, though. They take on a slightly higher contract for the same amount of years. Clarkson's terrible, Horton's injury prone.

I wouldn't give up the 8th overall or anything that high in value to move Clarkson. If were stuck with him, so be it.

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I don't understand why Jackets fan really hate this. That 8th overall pick is worth quite a lot regardless of Clarkson's contract.

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I don't understand why Jackets fan really hate this. That 8th overall pick is worth quite a lot regardless of Clarkson's contract.
Because Horton can actually be useful.

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We give up a top ten pick JUST to get rid of Clarkson? Leafs pass easily and keep Clarkson.
LOL, your forgetting Horton is a nice player to have in this mix. Leafs jump on this so fast your head would spin.

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It's also not a coincidence that Columbus started playing way better, as a team, right when Horton came off the IR. He maybe didn't have an amazing season statistics-wise, but he was coming off major surgery. Plus, the optics of Columbus signing a major coveted UFA last summer to the amazement of "traditional" hockey markets/other UFAs would be ruined by turning around and dumping him a year later.

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Nope.

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When Horton is healthy, he can be one hell of a player. Giving up on him after an injury plagued season isn't too smart.

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Terrible proposal.

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I think what it comes down to is, regardless of his contract, if CBJ wanted to trade Horton, they could get a heck of a lot more than this. Or at least, they could do it without taking a bad contract back. A lot of teams would still be willing to take a chance on his deal.

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LOL, your forgetting Horton is a nice player to have in this mix. Leafs jump on this so fast your head would spin.
No, they wouldn't.

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