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05-06-2014, 07:38 AM
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Rick Nash

I'm not even sure I have to say more at this point.

No, really though, I don't even know what to say. Besides being an Isles fan, I'm a huge fan of the game in general. And this guy has had every excuse imaginable thrown his way ever since his one good year in Columbus.

All the talent in the world and is completely useless. Is there a comparable player in the NHL?

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Has to be the easiest "superstar" to contain in the playoffs. Guy is an awful skater. So easily knocked off the puck and constantly falling. He deserves every ounce of criticism thrown his way.

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Has to be the easiest "superstar" to contain in the playoffs. Guy is an awful skater. So easily knocked off the puck and constantly falling. He deserves every ounce of criticism thrown his way.
It's hard to watch. He is the definition of perimeter player. For 7.8 million dollars, this guy doesn't deserve to play that type of game. He should be in front of the net on every single play.

Total nancy or he's not being coached properly.

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But the Canadian media always tells me he's a generational power forward! D:

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Never understood the love this guy gets from Team Canada. I can understand some NHL fan love, but seriously when you talk about overrated, this is the poster guy.

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Between Rick Nash and my toiletpaper.. I cant decide which is the softest.

Wouldnt take him on my team for half the salary.

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Has to be the easiest "superstar" to contain in the playoffs. Guy is an awful skater. So easily knocked off the puck and constantly falling. He deserves every ounce of criticism thrown his way.
Rick has Dustin Brown's equilibrium.

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Ville Leino


Only difference is that Ville Leino scores when he wants.

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I laugh every time someone refers to him as a "power forward"

People say the Rangers should be buying Richards out...I think Nash would be a better option

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05-06-2014, 09:34 AM
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I want to go back through my post history now and find when I said trading Pavelski alone for Nash would be an awful trade, let alone Pavelski+Couture or Couture+1st

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05-06-2014, 09:39 AM
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People say the Rangers should be buying Richards out...I think Nash would be a better option
My thoughts exactly. I am refusing to get my kids a Nash jersey now that we are trying to pick 2 Ranger names to put on the backs.

Anyone think St. Louis will stay long term?

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05-06-2014, 09:43 AM
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Nash is probably the single best example of the double-standard the north American hockey media has for lazy, underachieving players based on their nationality and/or perceived style (small/fast/finesses versus big/"powerforward").

If Nash were from anywhere in Europe, or were a small North American forward regarded as "soft" he'd be utterly raked over the coals by the media for how he plays and produces.

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05-06-2014, 10:03 AM
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One of the few trades Sather lost on.

It's a shame too. That trade never happens and Gabby is still with the Rangers if AV was in a year earlier. #tortseffect

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I thought Cbus made out like bandits when the trade went down and still do. Who was the GM in Columbus when the trade happened? Nash is (was) ridiculously overrated.

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He won't fight for the puck, he won't go into the corners, and he won't drive the net. He is a perimiter player who fires wristers into the chest and pads of the goalie from a safe distance. Maybe some of it is the concussions and fear of getting hurt again, which is unfortunate, but if you can't play you shouldn't be out there and if you're out there, you need to put some effort into going to the greasy areas to get the job done. Rick Nash simply isn't that guy.

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05-06-2014, 10:12 AM
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I thought Cbus made out like bandits when the trade went down and still do. Who was the GM in Columbus when the trade happened? Nash is (was) ridiculously overrated.
Howson pulled the trigger on Nash, the single most transformational move in CBJ history. Dubinsky is the heart and soul of this team.

Kekalainen returned the favor though, sending Brassard, Dorsett, and Moore to NY for Gaborik, then flipping Gaborik over to LA for Matt MF Frattin, and a couple conditionals.

Nash is a perennial 30 goal scorer, nothing more, nothing less. The market dicates the price. Love him or hate him, it doesn't matter, he's going to get paid because he can score goals in a league where 3 goals for typically win a game.lly win a game.

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My thoughts exactly. I am refusing to get my kids a Nash jersey now that we are trying to pick 2 Ranger names to put on the backs.

Anyone think St. Louis will stay long term?
He's 38 years old. Define long-term.

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05-06-2014, 10:16 AM
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Still marvel at how they let Howson make that massive trade, then axed him before the trade could be properly assessed.

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Howson pulled the trigger on Nash, the single most transformational move in CBJ history. Dubinsky is the heart and soul of this team.

Kekalainen returned the favor though, sending Brassard, Dorsett, and Moore to NY for Gaborik, then flipping Gaborik over to LA for Matt MF Frattin, and a couple conditionals.

Nash is a perennial 30 goal scorer, nothing more, nothing less. The market dicates the price. Love him or hate him, it doesn't matter, he's going to get paid because he can score goals in a league where 3 goals for typically win a game.lly win a game.
So basically Moore, Brassard and Dorsett for Frattin ..
Wow Kekalainen sucks, Has he done anything except get all the glory?

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Still marvel at how they let Howson make that massive trade, then axed him before the trade could be properly assessed.
The Nash/Carter moves also netted the CBJ 3 first round picks (Wennberg/Rychel/Dano). Howson also brought Bobrovsky to town.

Granted this is all following some dismal drafting and contracting in previous years. Howson got it right just as the owner's patience expired.

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So basically Moore, Brassard and Dorsett for Frattin ..
Wow Kekalainen sucks, Has he done anything except get all the glory?
His 2013 draft picks look promising, and that is really his reputed strength.

We also can't forget JD, he was here for all of these moves, good and bad, and I suspect he had the most say in the Post Howson moves.

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Still marvel at how they let Howson make that massive trade, then axed him before the trade could be properly assessed.
...then I got called every name in the book for suggesting that Howson wasn't as bad as everyone said.

When I say "every name in the book", I mean the really offensive stuff, like "revisionist", "dishonest", "intellectually lazy"...that's way worse than the stuff my wife calls me.

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But the Canadian media always tells me he's a generational power forward! D:
If he wanted to, he could be.

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First they get rid of Dubinsky, then Gaborik, then Callahan. Rangers never learn. All these players hit a small rough patch only to be thrown overboard or forced off this team. It just makes me sick.

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I want to go back through my post history now and find when I said trading Pavelski alone for Nash would be an awful trade, let alone Pavelski+Couture or Couture+1st
Given that Pavelski's at one hell of a peak while Nash is slumping, I'm sure that would indeed look quite ridiculous.

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One of the few trades Sather lost on.
You'd think, after Tyutin & Fritsche for Zherdev and Backman, that Sather would have learned better than to negotiate with Howson.

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He won't fight for the puck, he won't go into the corners, and he won't drive the net. He is a perimiter player who fires wristers into the chest and pads of the goalie from a safe distance. Maybe some of it is the concussions and fear of getting hurt again, which is unfortunate, but if you can't play you shouldn't be out there and if you're out there, you need to put some effort into going to the greasy areas to get the job done. Rick Nash simply isn't that guy.
That's definitely concussion/injury fear. He wasn't nearly consistent enough about fighting for pucks when he played here, but it wasn't as though he abstained entirely.

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I laugh every time someone refers to him as a "power forward"

People say the Rangers should be buying Richards out...I think Nash would be a better option
Oh god no.

Nash for what it's worth is still tradable. Whether it be a late 1st or some marginal prospects.

Richards isn't tradable at all, and the recapture will kill us.

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