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03-12-2007, 07:39 PM
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Dylan Reese & Darin Olver Signed to Pack Tryout Contracts. Will Roche be Signed?

so who think the rangers will do that

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I think Roche gets inked. Not sure about Reese. I had a lot of hope for Reese, but he hasn't really progressed to where I think he should be right now.

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Are these two guys worthy of NHL Contracts? It reminds me of the situation last year with Potter, Guenin and Joey Crabb. The Rangers didnt feel any of them deserved an NHL contract. Potter got an AHL contract, Guenin was signed by the Flyers and Crabb was signed by the Thrashers.

I hear good reports on Potter and Guenin. I havent heard much about Crabb.

With the Rangers Organizational Depth and only being allowed 50 NHL contracts, I dont know if these guys will be offered NHL contracts.

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I think Reese has a much better shot then Roche who probably has under a 50% shot.

Reese has been so far under the radar because

1) He plays in the NCAA
2) He plays in one of the least exposed NCAA "divisions".

Do I think Reese will definitely get a contract? No. But I think he's got a decent shot at the least an AHL contract.


Roche puts up respectable numbers but I don't see his game translating to much at even the AHL level. And if Crabb wasn't offered a contract (who was definitely better then Roche) then I can't see Roche getting offered one.

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In watching Kenny Roche and with the 50 contract limit in mind, I just think he's not worthy of a contract.

Will he make it...probably not. While there will always be a 1 in 50 kid who does pan out, you need to keep contract spots open for kids who have a higher upside.

His play for the Terriers has been good, it hasn't been anything spectacular and is reminiscent of many upperclassman over the years.

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Roche puts up respectable numbers but I don't see his game translating to much at even the AHL level. And if Crabb wasn't offered a contract (who was definitely better then Roche) then I can't see Roche getting offered one.
Crabb WAS offered a contract. He simply wanted more money than the Rangers were offering, IIRC.

Roche, IMO, is a great candidate for a 3rd/4th liner. Hard working, skilled in all areas (though none great), etc. He's a good guy. Can definitely see him getting signed.

Reese has underwhelmed me playing in a bad league where a guy of his talent should shine.

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Crabb WAS offered a contract. He simply wanted more money than the Rangers were offering, If I recall correctly.

Roche, IMO, is a great candidate for a 3rd/4th liner. Hard working, skilled in all areas (though none great), etc. He's a good guy. Can definitely see him getting signed.

Reese has underwhelmed me playing in a bad league where a guy of his talent should shine.

You'r right. Forgot he was offered a contract but wanted more.


Roche is a what you said, but we have plenty of those players right now and more that are going to be signed that do things better then him. That bring something else or more. Roche is...very average and we have better IMO.

Reese was named as one of the top defenseman in his league last season as a Junior, so he hasn't been playing bad.

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I'm not a big fan of either anymore but I don't watch as much college hockey as i used too...

The flip side of the coin is Can Roche or Reese get a better TOTAL package with another team? With the Rangers both would probably play the majority of next season with the Checkers..Maybe a team with a prospect pool that isn't as deep can give them a better chance....I don't know maybe I'm way off..

The Rangers might not have the option to sign either player....

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I'm not a big fan of either anymore but I don't watch as much college hockey as i used too...

The flip side of the coin is Can Roche or Reese get a better TOTAL package with another team? With the Rangers both would probably play the majority of next season with the Checkers..Maybe a team with a prospect pool that isn't as deep can give them a better chance....I don't know maybe I'm way off..

The Rangers might not have the option to sign either player....
Exactly. Hartford is already crowded, and I would think that Staal, Sauer, Pyatt and Dupont are all almost assured to be there next year. Olver's probably another prospect who gets an offer, as is Russell, and Maloney continues to push the idea of bringing Anisimov over. I'd also throw in that, at least from what I've seen and read, Potter may have earned himself a contract, too. Graham's probably ready for Hartford. I'm not sure how much room there is in the organization.

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Exactly. Hartford is already crowded, and I would think that Staal, Sauer, Pyatt and Dupont are all almost assured to be there next year. Olver's probably another prospect who gets an offer, as is Russell, and Maloney continues to push the idea of bringing Anisimov over. I'd also throw in that, at least from what I've seen and read, Potter may have earned himself a contract, too. Graham's probably ready for Hartford. I'm not sure how much room there is in the organization.
Is that a bad thing?? Nope...feels great that we have so many guys competing for spots who can eventually contribute.

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Is that a bad thing?? Nope...feels great that we have so many guys competing for spots who can eventually contribute.

What it also means is that we are going to start seeing deals involving some of these kids...the likes of Immonen, Dawes...maybe a Greg Moore or Dwight Helminen might get pushed aside by some the kids coming along. Hopefully, the fanbase won't over-react and claim that the youth movement is over.

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What it also means is that we are going to start seeing deals involving some of these kids...the likes of Immonen, Dawes...maybe a Greg Moore or Dwight Helminen might get pushed aside by some the kids coming along. Hopefully, the fanbase won't over-react and claim that the youth movement is over.
There is absolutely no way in hell there will not be outrage on this board when this happens. At HF, no one under the age of 25 should EVER be traded for anything less than a first round pick.

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I think Reese's stats are little misleading, he's a better player than what you see in terms of statistics. He was the captain of Harvard this year, and he has a great shot from the point. In terms of his NHL potential, I think he's an outside chance, but he's got better skills than Ken Roche in my opinion.

In some ways Roche kind of reminds me of Marcel Hossa...but without the defensive play. He's not afraid to shoot, can work in the corners, but has a relatively slow shot. He'll get a few more games as BU will be selected to play in the NCAA playoffs...although I wouldn't expect them to go too far.

Another College prospect is also at the end of their eligibility this season, and that's Darin Olver. Like Reese, his NCAA career is now over so we'll see if the Rangers sign him to an AHL contract.

The Rangers don't have to sign these guys to an NHL contract until August (if I recall correctly) so don't be surprised to see a couple of AHL contracts come their way.

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Reese had a natural hatrick a few weeks ago...

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The Rangers have until August 15 to sign their college senior players.Just like last summer,the Rangers will be selective in which players receive NHL contracts.Greg Moore got a NHL contract last April.Nate Guenin wasn't offering a contract by the Rangers.Joey Crabb wasn't offered a NHL deal by the Rangers.Corey Potter wanted a NHL deal but settled for a an AHL deal.Mike Walsh signed an AHL contract with Grand Rapids

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Is that a bad thing?? Nope...feels great that we have so many guys competing for spots who can eventually contribute.
Not that's a bad thing but those entry level contracts are either three or two year deals.Then you have to go through the same issue the following summer.With the 50 NHL contract limit,there are only x amount of NHL contracts to go around

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I think Reese has a much better shot then Roche who probably has under a 50% shot.

Reese has been so far under the radar because

1) He plays in the NCAA
2) He plays in one of the least exposed NCAA "divisions".

Do I think Reese will definitely get a contract? No. But I think he's got a decent shot at the least an AHL contract.


Roche puts up respectable numbers but I don't see his game translating to much at even the AHL level. And if Crabb wasn't offered a contract (who was definitely better then Roche) then I can't see Roche getting offered one.
Um, Roche plays for Hockey East (NCAA) and has had a bigger impact on his team. But why would being in the worst NCAA divisions dictate you're a good player? If anything, might it suggest lower levels of competition?

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I suspect both, along with Olver will be offered ATOs to go to Hartford right now. They may or may not play but they will get to skate and practice with the team and that would give management a chance to see them up close.

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I think it depends alot on how the draft works out for the RAngers, who is still around and who has been traded when all the dust of the draft settles. I have a sneaky suspicion the Rangers will be VERY active on draft day....no info ...just a hunch.

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I think it depends alot on how the draft works out for the RAngers, who is still around and who has been traded when all the dust of the draft settles. I have a sneaky suspicion the Rangers will be VERY active on draft day....no info ...just a hunch.
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Olver will definitely be signed, Slats won't let down his boy Walt Kyle.

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The Rangers have until August 15 to sign their college senior players.Just like last summer,the Rangers will be selective in which players receive NHL contracts.Greg Moore got a NHL contract last April.Nate Guenin wasn't offering a contract by the Rangers.Joey Crabb wasn't offered a NHL deal by the Rangers.Corey Potter wanted a NHL deal but settled for a an AHL deal.Mike Walsh signed an AHL contract with Grand Rapids
aint Foote a senior as well??? I doubt he gets signed as well.

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aint Foote a senior as well??? I doubt he gets signed as well.
Jordan Foote is a junior

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