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03-14-2007, 02:28 PM
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I've actually had vertigo

And it is an inner ear infection. Don't believe everything you read on the web, especially in .. wincyclopedia or something

Mine wasn't as severe, but I was given exercises to get rid of it. It bothered me twice last year, and the 2nd time, I went to the chiropracter, along with doing the exercises.

Vertigo is like grains of grass, with little pebbles in them. When the grains are not moving, and the pebbles are stagnant, it creates that unbalanced feeling.

You know when you have vertigo. It's not lightheaded and dizziness that causes it. When you turn your head, the room spins. That in turn, creates an upset stomach and naseau

He can absolutely get through this... and you can do everything you want to do , as long as your body lets you. It can take a month or more, so obviously the timing is not good.

Just a little info for ya

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There is the brutal fact if Kovalev does have vertigo even just a touch of it then I am sorry to say it's good news for Gainey.

4.5mil for 13 goals and he is getting older. His best years are behind him and things are getting worse. Kovalev had his fortune made already. No matter what his next contract will be a lot less then 4.5mil. The INS will cover his contract ( good for Gainey) Kovalev gets paid ( good for Kovalev) Kovalev gets to retire early and play with his toys early ( good for kovalev) Kovalev gets to retire with a great excuse for his play and not take any reputation hit ( good for Kovalev)
Gainey get 4.5mil extra in cap space for next year. ( great for Gainey)
Gainey gets to sign a NON-Russian TOP TIER to take his place for next year ( good for Gainey)

Brutal? yes, but for the Habs? it just might be a good deal.

dump all the underacheivers, buy out Samsonov, Kovy retires due to illness, Gainey ends up with what 16-20 cap space WOW. Gainey can go nuts in the off-season.

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For some reason...the theme song for the soap opera "Days of our lives" enters my head as i'm reading this thread

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How can you possibly diagnose that vertigo may be career ending. The symptoms are mostly self-diagnosed.

"How are you feeling, Mr. Kovalev"

"Well, every time I move my head quickly from side to side to avoid being totally drained of blood by the vampirish media and fanbase here in MTL, I get dizzy."

"Yeah? You have vertigo."

And yo be frank, he decided to wake up a week and a half ago and tell a Russian newspaper that Carbo is a bad coach and favours Frenchies over Russians. You never know with that guy.
You are right, most of the tests that are done for vertigo are self-diagnosed. But a few years ago it was thought that I had vertigo. Turns out I was just one spinned out little *******

But to find this out, first I went to see a specialist and he's the one that confirmed that I didn't have vertigo. They can't confirm that vertigo is career threatening, but they can speculate that it can be. Kovalev is only saying what his doctors are telling him, nothing more...nothing less.

BTW...great scenerio, I was laughing the whole time I was typing this.

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Under any circumstance that Kovalev retires his contract won't count against the cap because he didn't sign it after he was 35 years of age. If he is legitimately injured he'll still get paid the money, if he isn't he won't. Either way it's off Montreal's books should he retire.

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I've actually had vertigo

And it is an inner ear infection. Don't believe everything you read on the web, especially in .. wincyclopedia or something

Mine wasn't as severe, but I was given exercises to get rid of it. It bothered me twice last year, and the 2nd time, I went to the chiropracter, along with doing the exercises.

Vertigo is like grains of grass, with little pebbles in them. When the grains are not moving, and the pebbles are stagnant, it creates that unbalanced feeling.

You know when you have vertigo. It's not lightheaded and dizziness that causes it. When you turn your head, the room spins. That in turn, creates an upset stomach and naseau

He can absolutely get through this... and you can do everything you want to do , as long as your body lets you. It can take a month or more, so obviously the timing is not good.

Just a little info for ya

Thanks for the info Brandi

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If you listen closely...and everything around you is quiet...you can hear gentle sobbing coming from TheDamned's house...

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Thanks for the info Brandi
No problem. If this was one of our key guys , I'd be wondering what the heck is going on.

It's scarey at first, and very annoying to have. Even acupuncture can be a good solution.

Sometimes you need to try a few things and see what works.

I hope he gets well soon

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There is the brutal fact if Kovalev does have vertigo even just a touch of it then I am sorry to say it's good news for Gainey.

4.5mil for 13 goals and he is getting older. His best years are behind him and things are getting worse. Kovalev had his fortune made already. No matter what his next contract will be a lot less then 4.5mil. The INS will cover his contract ( good for Gainey) Kovalev gets paid ( good for Kovalev) Kovalev gets to retire early and play with his toys early ( good for kovalev) Kovalev gets to retire with a great excuse for his play and not take any reputation hit ( good for Kovalev)
Gainey get 4.5mil extra in cap space for next year. ( great for Gainey)
Gainey gets to sign a NON-Russian TOP TIER to take his place for next year ( good for Gainey)

Brutal? yes, but for the Habs? it just might be a good deal.

dump all the underacheivers, buy out Samsonov, Kovy retires due to illness, Gainey ends up with what 16-20 cap space WOW. Gainey can go nuts in the off-season.
I agree an think we should make sure its a non francophone player there to god damn lazy and just wanna float around.

Why don't you leave the racist comments at the FLQ meetings and not worry about where the top line player comes from because god knows I would take Kovalchuk or Ovechkin over 99.9% of the players in the league.

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well that's 4.5 free millions if he ends his career, i practicaly fell off from my chair when i read this thought, but no Kovalev and Samsonov means 2 spots open for our prospects and 8 mil to sign whoever we want, like Souray , Markov and one of Drury/Briere

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If you listen closely...and everything around you is quiet...you can hear gentle sobbing coming from TheDamned's house...
Haha...thanks hototogisu...I was wondering where that noise was coming from

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No problem. If this was one of our key guys , I'd be wondering what the heck is going on.

It's scarey at first, and very annoying to have. Even acupuncture can be a good solution.

Sometimes you need to try a few things and see what works.

I hope he gets well soon
For me personally it was my balance that was off. Everytime I went to stand up I would take a couple of steps then crash into a wall or fall down on my face. Very unpleasant if you ask me.

It turned out that I had a bad inner ear infection, but I can remember how scared I was when they first informed me that it could be vertigo.

Hopefully they do find something that will work to improve his condition.

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Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhat.

And a big **** YOU to those who were saying he was faking for last game.

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... and his cap hit would be ZERO since he would be on LTI.
players on LTI count against the cap, the only difference is, the team is allowed his cap hit for a replacement (=exeed the cap if the replacement would bring you over the maximium)

he'd only be off if he retires

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For me personally it was my balance that was off. Everytime I went to stand up I would take a couple of steps then crash into a wall or fall down on my face. Very unpleasant if you ask me.

It turned out that I had a bad inner ear infection, but I can remember how scared I was when they first informed me that it could be vertigo.

Hopefully they do find something that will work to improve his condition.
Sorry to hear that .. I can sympathize.

Well , I tell you, it's beatable!

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Sorry to hear that .. I can sympathize.

Well , I tell you, it's beatable!
Well you seem to be proof of that Brandi....plus it probably has a small explaination of why you are a Sens Fan...just kidding

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Well , I tell you, it's beatable!
Jeff Hackett may not agree...

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Don't get overheated about this. Vertigo can be a symptom of many different things. If it isn't stroke-related, it'll probably disappear by itself. It can result from congestion or debris (calcium or ear wx) in the middle ear. If it's infection, it can be treated with antibiotics.

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Jeff Hackett may not agree...
I was thinking about Hackett when I first started reading this thread, plus that Blue Jay pitcher...can't remember his name.

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TSN.ca/nhl has taken it down from their page so it looks like it was one comment from Kovalev's mouth blown way out of proportion

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It has been taken down

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Yeah it is not only not on the front page but I can not even find it on the web site.

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The habs need a way to diagnose a career ending injury to Samsonov. All I can think of right now is dwarfism.

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