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03-13-2007, 10:30 PM
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Here's what I saw...

Bootland whacked Tootoo on the shin as he skated by. Clearly an invitation to drop the gloves when it comes from a player like Bootland.

But then when Tootoo actually DID drop the gloves, Bootland seemed like he was taken completely by surprise and got pummeled with 3 good shots to the head.
That's Tootoo's M.O. he doesn't actually like to square up and fight, he's like that kid at the party who starts a fight and gets 2 good shots in then runs away.

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Hudler with the first star.

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That's Tootoo's M.O. he doesn't actually like to square up and fight, he's like that kid at the party who starts a fight and gets 2 good shots in then runs away.

Still...Booter should have been ready. His MO is being a fighter and he should always be ready.

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03-13-2007, 10:35 PM
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That's Tootoo's M.O. he doesn't actually like to square up and fight, he's like that kid at the party who starts a fight and gets 2 good shots in then runs away.
Booter, IMO, was trying to fight.
He just got punked. By a punk.

But whateever.
We could use a guy like Tootoo on our fourth line.

He had Detroit on their heels for the first period.

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Just giving you crap...it's actually more of a swipe at Boy Genius. Hence, the sarcasm emoticon.

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Still...Booter should have been ready. His MO is being a fighter and he should always be ready.
Yep.
Particular since seemed to start the altercation with the little slash on the back of the leg.

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Still...Booter should have been ready. His MO is being a fighter and he should always be ready.
No, I agree, Tootoo didn't want a fight though.

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I still want to see Tootoo go flying in the game tomorrow night. I just can't stand the little punk. Especially when he runs around charging everyone, and then looks to the ref as soon as he gets hit.

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03-13-2007, 11:06 PM
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Dion Phaneuf gets a ton of attention, but Weber stacks up pretty well.

Unless the Wings get realigned out of the Central, or the Preds relocate, we're going to have a lot of time to generate hate for this guy.
He's already up there on my list. Dirty as heck, his defensive play consists of repeated crosschecks and gloves to the back of the head. Reminds me of Craig Ludwig only he has one heck of an offensive game too.

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03-13-2007, 11:07 PM
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Kronwall's vision may be affected by his cage? Now where have I heard that before?

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03-13-2007, 11:46 PM
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I don't understand why they don't hit along the boards. They just let the opposing forwards (whether they be from Nashville or any other team in the league) hold the puck and they stand behind them and wait for them to make a move.

It's idiocy. Hit the ******* and get in there and fight for the puck. It can't be any more tiring than chasing the pansies around as they keep control of the puck.
Well in this case, the Preds all turn toward the boards and stand on their toes, and dive head first if anyone comes near them. So it's kind of tough to hit them on the boards without getting a BS penalty.

Terry Crisp is the worst TV personality I've ever heard. And I've seen a lot of Blues and Avs broadcasts.

Chelios gets hooked, penalty Chelios. Schneider puts a shoulder into Tootoo, makes no contact with his stick, and gets a high sticking call. Homer doesn't touch the goalie, gets a goalie interference call. Kronwall pushes Abid, gets a holding call. Gotta say, it was a pretty gutty effort to play 5 on 9 the whole damn night.

Hudler and Filppula are really coming along. They should anchor the 3rd line and see quite a bit of spot duty on the top 2 next season.

Didn't take long for Lilja to go back to his old self. Nice shot block on that first goal. And he was also out for the 5 on 3, although it's not really his fault that Babcock would be so critically stupid as to put him out there in such a situation.

Nice job Booter, way to get crunked by a midget. Tomorrow night, be sure to knock his helmet off so you don't have to worry about breaking a nail.

Aside from Kariya's breakaway, I was surprised at how invisible he and Datsyuk both were in this one. They're both really missing their counterparts (Sullivan/Forsberg, Z).

Calder is a beast. Nuff said.

Crap 1st goal for Ozzie to give up, but he made some huge stops in the 3rd.

What happens if everyone is healthy? Franzenstein was playing really well there with Calder and Lang, Hudler is playing well with them, Bertuzzi would be the natural fit there when he comes in, and either Flip or Hudler, or someone like Samuelsson or Cleary would have to sit out completely. I guess it's a good problem to have. And it's not like they'll ever get everyone back at the same time anyway.


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03-14-2007, 03:44 AM
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Thanks for the game reports guys, good to see that Hudler, Filppula and Calder played great games.

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Hudler got the 1st star because the idiot Nashville commentators thought he had 2 goals. Calder should have been #1 star

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Agree and agree. Hudler and Flip look terrific right now. Homer was so hot for so long that some kind of slump had to be expected, but he was pretty invisible tonight.
We shouldn't forget that Homer's just not a good hockey player. He had/has tremendous chemistry on a line with Datsyuk and Zetterberg, but up to that point the guy was playing Maltby minutes on the bottom two lines, more or less.

If nothing else, this ought to demonstrate how much of a 'improve the players around him' guy that Zetterberg is.

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Aside from Kariya's breakaway, I was surprised at how invisible he and Datsyuk both were in this one. They're both really missing their counterparts (Sullivan/Forsberg, Z).
Interesting comment. In the past 3 games against the Wings, with Sulli out, Kariya has garnered 2G/1A on the 24th, and a point each in the last 2. Since the 24th when he had 3 pts, he has managed a point in every game, with 2 more multipoints game after the 24th. And he's way ahead of his teammates in point totals. I don't like the little twerp/diver either, but...

Dats on the other hand has been one of our best forwards since Hank has been out. In the 7 games, he has racked up 11 pts. He's also our leading points guy (74), with only Z coming close to his numbers and presumably challenging for the lead had he stayed healthy. Dats is 16th overall in the NHL right now in Pts.

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03-14-2007, 06:23 AM
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We shouldn't forget that Homer's just not a good hockey player. He had/has tremendous chemistry on a line with Datsyuk and Zetterberg, but up to that point the guy was playing Maltby minutes on the bottom two lines, more or less.

If nothing else, this ought to demonstrate how much of a 'improve the players around him' guy that Zetterberg is.


Couldn't agree more. It seemed that everyone was convinced that the Dats-Z-Homer line was the ultimate thing out there and couldn't be touched. No, I think it does show how much Z especially can elevate Homer's game. Now what if you put a healthy power forward making $5+ MM on the top line with either Dats or Z or both... hmmm. It's one thing to elevate a PP specialist's game whose making about a million and a half, and another to do so with a bonafide top line forward....

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Now what if you put a healthy power forward making $5+ MM on the top line with either Dats or Z or both... hmmm.
I'm more of a fan of Calder-Lang-Bertuzzi than Calder-Lang-Holmstrom (or whoever). I feel Bertuzzi on the second line with Homer up with Z and Dats provides the Wings the most offensive depth possible and keeps them as far away from being a one-line heavy offensive team as possible. Also, it keeps Bertuzzi from having to face the defensive stoppers of the other team. Seriously, can you imagine Bertuzzi matching up with the opponents SECOND defensive pairing, or letting that pairing face Dats and Z? Talk about damned if you do...

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Homer
Calder-Lang-Bertuzzi
Maltby-Draper-Franzen
Hulder-Filppula-Samuelsson.

Oh yeah, and there's that Cleary guy to fit in somewhere, too.

Man, Detroit is LOADED at forward when everyone gets back healthy. Just stinking loaded.

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To be honest, I would love to see a 1st line of Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi. Mouth watering stuff.

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I'm more of a fan of Calder-Lang-Bertuzzi than Calder-Lang-Holmstrom (or whoever). I feel Bertuzzi on the second line with Homer up with Z and Dats provides the Wings the most offensive depth possible and keeps them as far away from being a one-line heavy offensive team as possible. Also, it keeps Bertuzzi from having to face the defensive stoppers of the other team. Seriously, can you imagine Bertuzzi matching up with the opponents SECOND defensive pairing, or letting that pairing face Dats and Z? Talk about damned if you do...

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Homer
Calder-Lang-Bertuzzi
Maltby-Draper-Franzen
Hulder-Filppula-Samuelsson.

Oh yeah, and there's that Cleary guy to fit in somewhere, too.

Man, Detroit is LOADED at forward when everyone gets back healthy. Just stinking loaded.

What had me laughing were some of the comments in the media and around other places not as familiar with the Wings in assessing Holland's trade moves. I think we needed a couple of gritty wingers and that's what he got and man does it make a difference. I do wonder where Nolan would've fit in though...

Anyway, to the points you raise. One reason I do like Bert with a Z and/or Dats pairing is the size factor. Homer has a similar effect but Homer mainly scores from two inches away from the crease. You can't leave a guy like him - or Bert - alone to wander around the net and focus in on the Eurotwins. Bert of the old days needed to be double-teamed to be fully contained. Like this poster says:

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To be honest, I would love to see a 1st line of Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi. Mouth watering stuff.

... I know what you mean. I'd love to see this... just for fun. And I think it would be fun!

Lang needs a scrappy, board-attacking kind of guy as Calder is showing. I was over the Yahoo NHL page and they like featuring their "Who's Hot" list. Lo and behold... our boy Lang was there, with Calder right next to him. Wings fans of course would say... yeah, what's changed? I don't see him and Bert being as complementary to each other as say Dats-Bert. Dats loves to pass and set-up plays, and Bert loves to finish. He also can be a bit of safety net for Dats in the same way Shanny was... I think some players might think twice about the cheap shots on Dats if they know a patented Bertuzzi check is the answer.

Like we've all said before, these are good problems to have. It's nice to know we have a couple of legitimate Top 6 wingers and with no shortage of centers on the Wings, Babs can mix and match to get things going.

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Well in this case, the Preds all turn toward the boards and stand on their toes, and dive head first if anyone comes near them. So it's kind of tough to hit them on the boards without getting a BS penalty.

Terry Crisp is the worst TV personality I've ever heard. And I've seen a lot of Blues and Avs broadcasts.

Chelios gets hooked, penalty Chelios. Schneider puts a shoulder into Tootoo, makes no contact with his stick, and gets a high sticking call. Homer doesn't touch the goalie, gets a goalie interference call. Kronwall pushes Abid, gets a holding call. Gotta say, it was a pretty gutty effort to play 5 on 9 the whole damn night.

Hudler and Filppula are really coming along. They should anchor the 3rd line and see quite a bit of spot duty on the top 2 next season.

Didn't take long for Lilja to go back to his old self. Nice shot block on that first goal. And he was also out for the 5 on 3, although it's not really his fault that Babcock would be so critically stupid as to put him out there in such a situation.

Nice job Booter, way to get crunked by a midget. Tomorrow night, be sure to knock his helmet off so you don't have to worry about breaking a nail.


Crap 1st goal for Ozzie to give up, but he made some huge stops in the 3rd.

Tootoo didn't even give him a chance to drop his gloves and fight. He dropped his gloves and then started punching Booters, like the little ***** that he is.

As for the first goal, Lilja did a half-ass job trying to block it, and screened Ozzie in the process, so he couldn't even see that shot coming through. Markov can't get back soon enough. Hell, I'd rather Quincey or Meech be called up from GR to play instead of Lilja.

Hopefully Booters rails Tootoo tonight.

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I'm more of a fan of Calder-Lang-Bertuzzi than Calder-Lang-Holmstrom (or whoever). I feel Bertuzzi on the second line with Homer up with Z and Dats provides the Wings the most offensive depth possible and keeps them as far away from being a one-line heavy offensive team as possible. Also, it keeps Bertuzzi from having to face the defensive stoppers of the other team. Seriously, can you imagine Bertuzzi matching up with the opponents SECOND defensive pairing, or letting that pairing face Dats and Z? Talk about damned if you do...

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Homer
Calder-Lang-Bertuzzi
Maltby-Draper-Franzen
Hulder-Filppula-Samuelsson.

Oh yeah, and there's that Cleary guy to fit in somewhere, too.

Man, Detroit is LOADED at forward when everyone gets back healthy. Just stinking loaded.
You forgot Kopecky. Not that really matter cause I do not think he'll be ready for teh playoffs anyway.

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The Preds annoucers are not bad, they were terrible a few years back, now I think htey are good.

Osgood was good. That 1st goal was neither his nor Lilja's fault, the play developed quickly and Lilja tried to not screen Osgood, but did not manage it. Neither one can be blamed IMO. Osgood played a good game and showed that there is no "weak" goals if the team plays fine defence. Both he and Hasek allowed some "weak" goals, but I would rather say that the whole team played the defence like crap. I like Osgood when he is a bit agressive. I think he can be better if he is a little bit more agressive.
Schneider played some good game and they were big games, so I'll withdraw my complains about him for the time being.
Lidstrom, you can always wonder why the opponents do not go after him more often and try to hit him. There was one play last night which tried and he did hit Lidstrom, but the result was 2 on 1 the other way. So I think you always risk a good scoring chance against if you go after him. Therefore you always have to keep the puck away from the part of the ice where he is.
Kronwall was not terrible this game. He is probably struggling because of teh cage as pointed out by many posters.

Hudler and Filppula probably played their best games of the season.
1st goal and all 3 players were driving the net (Hudler, Calder and Lang). This line looks good.
Filppula was fantastic, but again he was going 2 on 1 and did not play it well again. He has to be better in those situations.
Datsyuk had again a very strong game. He was great defensively, he made many good/great defensive plays. You can also see that the opponents are afraid of him, they are simply backing off when he is going down with teh puck. I also think that he is much faster than a few years back which is strange. Do I see wrong here?
Maltby's best game of the season.
I have to say I did not like Bootland "lost" the fight to Tootttoo, but I liked what he did there. He was not there to impresse the fans, he wanted to smartly impress his coach and draw an important penalty to his team and he did it. He had one bad play in the defensive zone, but other than that a good game.
Langfeld has to go. He is useless, he can not play at the NHL level. I would rather have Norton instead of him.

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bad collision ouch...hope homer is ok

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