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05-16-2014, 01:15 PM
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He literally inherited two of the best players in the game, he was brought in '06 ... Crosby (8.7 x 12) was drafted 1 year earlier and Malkin (9.5 x 8 years) 2 years before he got there, re-signed MAF 7 years-35 mil, Letang 8 year-58 mil
Yeah, which is why it's really tricky to evaluate what he's done. Did he win a Cup because of the players he inherited, or what he managed to put together that season? Should he have won more? Is it still a major accomplishment considering the player he inherited? All good questions IMO.

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Lot's of interesting comparisons between the Preds and Pens:
1. Bad goaltending hurt them both.... in one case, the GM goes and in one case the coach goes (and I would argue the bigger cause of the problem kept their job in both cities).
2. Shero, trained by passive Poile, shows himself to be much more aggressive and gets fired.
3. Shero is perceived as a failure/overrated, yet Fenton is viewed by many as the savior to replace Poile.
4. Poile botched his effort to keep both of his superstars, while Shero succeeded.
5. Poile found a very high quality partner for his superstar when it was needed, while Shero has failed to do so for Sid's wings.
6. Shero, who is articulate, slick and poised, failed to win over his ownership. Poile, goofy and awkward, has made the ownership group his b####-harem.
7. Trotz looks like he has no neck. Bylsma looks like he has no brain.
8. All offense teams don't win. All defense teams don't win.

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05-16-2014, 01:50 PM
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Lot's of interesting comparisons between the Preds and Pens:
1. Bad goaltending hurt them both.... in one case, the GM goes and in one case the coach goes (and I would argue the bigger cause of the problem kept their job in both cities).
2. Shero, trained by passive Poile, shows himself to be much more aggressive and gets fired.
3. Shero is perceived as a failure/overrated, yet Fenton is viewed by many as the savior to replace Poile.
4. Poile botched his effort to keep both of his superstars, while Shero succeeded.
5. Poile found a very high quality partner for his superstar when it was needed, while Shero has failed to do so for Sid's wings.
6. Shero, who is articulate, slick and poised, failed to win over his ownership. Poile, goofy and awkward, has made the ownership group his b####-harem.
7. Trotz looks like he has no neck. Bylsma looks like he has no brain.
8. All offense teams don't win. All defense teams don't win.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/marek-vs-wyshynski/

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I don't know if Shero can ultimately be blamed for the issues with finding Sid's wingers. You've had Hossa, Iginla, Neal, Kunitz, Jokinen as all quality wingers that have come through Pittsburgh, as well as guys like Sullivan, Morrow, Satan, Sykora, Guerin, who all were out of their prime, but still more skilled than your average wingers. For whatever reason, Crosby ultimately always ends up with Kunitz and Dupuis. Some weird chemistry thing going on there. Malkin doesn't seem to have the same issue.

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Bring Ray on as a consultant. Put him in charge of minor league operations (a job he showed himself adept at doing). Tell him at the end of 2015, he'll be evaluated as Poile's successor.

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Bring Ray on as a consultant. Put him in charge of minor league operations (a job he showed himself adept at doing). Tell him at the end of 2015, he'll be evaluated as Poile's successor.
yeah not happening

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Bring Ray on as a consultant. Put him in charge of minor league operations (a job he showed himself adept at doing). Tell him at the end of 2015, he'll be evaluated as Poile's successor.
As badly as I want this, Shero will find a job as a GM in the NHL sooner rather than later. No way he takes a job as a "consultant".

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Bridgestone Arena adding luxury members-only club

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville...only-club.html

I'm having a hard time visualizing this. Is it ice level? How will the players walk thu pre/post game?

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Bridgestone Arena adding luxury members-only club

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville...only-club.html

I'm having a hard time visualizing this. Is it ice level? How will the players walk thu pre/post game?

Sounds like an upgrade to the 501 Club. And by upgrade I don't mean they are upgrading the existing club, I just mean a upgrade option to that club.

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Just curious if max gortz or Simon fernholm are/will be signed?

I believe they are not and if that's the case by the draft they are no longer ours.
I thought both had potential when originally drafted, no?

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I know it's a early to be talking about this but I was bored so I was put this together to see what the feelings were as a possible theme for next year's avatars.


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05-31-2014, 10:31 AM
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I know it's a early to be talking about this but I was bored so I was put this together to see what the feelings were as a possible theme for next year's avatars.

The Predators logo should be morphed with a Turtle

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Behold the old...not the gold...

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I know it's a early to be talking about this but I was bored so I was put this together to see what the feelings were as a possible theme for next year's avatars.

Massive like.

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Do you think Filip Forsberg will take a spot next year?

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Cletus, the slack jawed Perd.

Edit: Kinda lame he used the old graphics, though.

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Do you think Filip Forsberg will take a spot next year?
It's certainly possible, but I feel he at least needs to start the year in Milwaukee. I do think he's close. He puts up great numbers in the A, but hasn't transitioned yet to the speed of the NHL.

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I know it's a early to be talking about this but I was bored so I was put this together to see what the feelings were as a possible theme for next year's avatars.


Can you photoshop a gif of Trey Anastasio or Jerry Garcia playing the guitar wearing a preds jersey after the Play With Some Jam??

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Can you photoshop a gif of Trey Anastasio or Jerry Garcia playing the guitar wearing a preds jersey after the Play With Some Jam??


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nashville submit bid to host NHL All- Star Game 2016-19

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The more I think about it, the more I think we need to go full rebuild if we really want to win a cup. In the next 5 years, I don't see us being on the level of the Kings, Hawks, Ducks, or Blues in the west, and maybe the Avs if they continue playing like they did last year. That means it will take a minor miracle for us to be a higher seed, and if we're lower, we need to beat 3 of those teams (probably) just to get to the finals.

I just don't see us winning a cup any time soon with where we are and where those four/five teams are. They are lightyears ahead of us and have great young players.

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The more I think about it, the more I think we need to go full rebuild if we really want to win a cup. In the next 5 years, I don't see us being on the level of the Kings, Hawks, Ducks, or Blues in the west, and maybe the Avs if they continue playing like they did last year. That means it will take a minor miracle for us to be a higher seed, and if we're lower, we need to beat 3 of those teams (probably) just to get to the finals.

I just don't see us winning a cup any time soon with where we are and where those four/five teams are. They are lightyears ahead of us and have great young players.
we were never going to win a Cup unless we were lucky and Rinne stood on his head… which could still happen…

a full rebuild gets us out of Rinne's window of effectiveness.

Id rather retool and take our chances

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we were never going to win a Cup unless we were lucky and Rinne stood on his head… which could still happen…

a full rebuild gets us out of Rinne's window of effectiveness.

Id rather retool and take our chances
Part of my "full rebuild" involves moving Rinne. Don't get me wrong, he's amazing, but we don't have the pieces around him right now. Trade him, say, to St. Louis and get a great player back, sign someone like Bryz for now, then see how Hellberg/Saros/Darling progress. I'm ok with keeping the guys, retooling, and rolling, I just don't see how we get a cup out of that.

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Part of my "full rebuild" involves moving Rinne. Don't get me wrong, he's amazing, but we don't have the pieces around him right now. Trade him, say, to St. Louis and get a great player back, sign someone like Bryz for now, then see how Hellberg/Saros/Darling progress. I'm ok with keeping the guys, retooling, and rolling, I just don't see how we get a cup out of that.
Ill just have to disagree.

Rinne + our defense + Jarnkrok/Forsberg and whoever else Poile can get to come here in the next two years and I think we are looking at being a legit contender in 15-16, with a two or maybe three year window before Rinne and Weber begin to decline

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