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03-13-2007, 03:46 PM
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Um, Roche plays for Hockey East (NCAA) and has had a bigger impact on his team. But why would being in the worst NCAA divisions dictate you're a good player? If anything, might it suggest lower levels of competition?
I don't know, you brought it up.

All I said is that he doesn't get exposure playing in that league/division which is why nobody ever talks about him. He is a good player, regardless for where he plays.

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Joey Crabb wasn't offered a NHL deal by the Rangers.
Again, Crabb WAS offered a deal but turned it down in hopes of getting more money.

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Olver will definitely be signed, Slats won't let down his boy Walt Kyle.
It would be stupid to sign a guy we picked so high in the first place.

Olver IS his team most nights. The kid's got a lot of skill -- just not really much of anything for a supporting cast.

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It would be stupid to sign a guy we picked so high in the first place.

Olver IS his team most nights. The kid's got a lot of skill -- just not really much of anything for a supporting cast.
which is why i can not wait to see him with the pack....he could be a impact pick up for the playoffs

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Reese has been offered a tryout contract with the Pack and will be in the lineup. No suprise to me, I knew at the very least with his play he would be given a shot.

http://stats.theahl.com/hm/transactions.php

Olver as well was giving a tryout contract.

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03-16-2007, 01:28 PM
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There is absolutely no way in hell there will not be outrage on this board when this happens. At HF, no one under the age of 25 should EVER be traded for anything less than a first round pick.

not sure how you can say that. Naturally you can't please everybody but we have a pretty knowledgeable fanbase here. Just about everyone here knows we have a 50 contract limit and younger players with more talent will be pushing out the other players.

If this happened last year or the year before when the Rangers did not have an overabundance of younger players then I could understand a HUGE protest with me leading the charge.

I also don't think we should be throwing away younger players for over 30 players until we are on the cusp of making a serious run for the cup. Trading prospects for higher draft picks (combined with our own pick) or for mid to late twenty yrs old players is the way we should build.

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not sure how you can say that. Naturally you can't please everybody but we have a pretty knowledgeable fanbase here. Just about everyone here knows we have a 50 contract limit and younger players with more talent will be pushing out the other players.

If this happened last year or the year before when the Rangers did not have an overabundance of younger players then I could understand a HUGE protest with me leading the charge.

I also don't think we should be throwing away younger players for over 30 players until we are on the cusp of making a serious run for the cup. Trading prospects for higher draft picks (combined with our own pick) or for mid to late twenty yrs old players is the way we should build.
Darth, you missed the implicit sarcasm tag.

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Um, Roche plays for Hockey East (NCAA) and has had a bigger impact on his team. But why would being in the worst NCAA divisions dictate you're a good player? If anything, might it suggest lower levels of competition?
There are 6 NCAA conferances and the ECAC is at worst 4th and very close to 3rd (I've never seen much differance between the ECAC and CCHA.) And A Cornell team that just got swept out of the ECAC semis () beat the top team in Hockey East this year (UNH). The differance in talent is not nearly what WCHA and Hockey East fans like to mae it out to be.

I've seen Reese in person and Roche only on TV, so my perspective is a bit tilted, but I think Reese is the far superior player. Roche, despite the fact that I'm constantly looking for him when I watch BU, has never grabbed my attention. Reese on the other had, controls his end of the ice expertly. Just a very steady player who does have some nice offensive instincts. I don't know where you get Roche having a bigger impact on his team, Reese has been the best Harvard player for two years now. Do I see him as an eventual NHLer? I don't know, but he's good eough that I wouldn't want to let him slip away without seeing him play in Hartford. I like him alot more than Correy Potter. And before anyone acusses me of ECAC bias, I think my hatred of Harvard is prety well known.


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There are 6 NCAA conferances and the ECAC is at worst 4th and very close to 3rd (I've never seen much differance between the ECAC and CCHA.) And A Cornell team that just got swept out of the ECAC semis () beat the top team in Hockey East this year (UNH). The differance in talent is not nearly what WCHA and Hockey East fans like to mae it out to be.

I've seen Reese in person several times and Roche only on TV, so my perspective is a bit tilted, but I think Reese is the far superior player. Roche, despite the fact that I'm constantly looking for him when I watch BU, has never grabbed my attention. Reese on the other had, controls his end of the ice expertly. Just a very steady player who does have some nice offensive instincts. I don't know where you get Roche having a bigger impact on his team, Reese has been the best Harvard player for two years now. Do I see him as an eventual NHLer? I don't know, but he's good eough that I wouldn't want to let him slip away without seeing him play in Hartford. I like him alot more than Correy Potter. And before anyone acusses me of ECAC bias, I think my hatred of Harvard is prety well known.
Great post, the line I bolded is exactly how i feel when I watch a BU game. And you summed up my thoughts of Reese perfectly.

I'll be excited to see how Reese plays at the next level.

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What it also means is that we are going to start seeing deals involving some of these kids...the likes of Immonen, Dawes...maybe a Greg Moore or Dwight Helminen might get pushed aside by some the kids coming along. Hopefully, the fanbase won't over-react and claim that the youth movement is over.
This is the most exciting aspect of what lies ahead imo. Things begin to get down right Darwinian from here on. I've been waiting for some of our "Top" prospects to arrive in HFD to see how they stand up. This is where things get really interesting and the weeding out process truly begins. I see the quality of our prospect pool rising even as the numbers shrink a little.

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Again, Crabb WAS offered a deal but turned it down in hopes of getting more money.
Just to clarify.Crabb refused to join Hartford last spring after CC was knocked out of the NCAA tournament because he didn't want to play on an ATO basis.He wanted a guaranteed contract for the following season which is what the Rangers gave Greg Moore.The same thing happened with Corey Potter.Orginally,the Rangers were not offering a NHL contract for either player.They didn't offer Ryan Callahan a NHL contract until last spring when Guelph was ousted from the OHL playoffs.When the Rangers finally acquiesced to Crabb's demand,they still couldn't come to terms.I got that from the Colorado College beat writer who covered the hockey team for the local paper.The Rangers caught a break by failing to come to terms with Crabb.Seven goals in 58 games.Just like Moore,Crabb has been a disappointment.These are 4 year college players 22/23 years of age struggling in their first season of the AHL

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I imagine we'll see guys like Lampman, Degon, Jake Taylor and Martin Richter escorted out of the organization; to make room for these kids coming in.

Maybe even Purinton, who year after year defies the odds and remains on the Pack blueline.

Kasper? Who knows what's going on with him?

I would think they'll give kids like Bahensky, Kozak and Graham a bit more time. But you never know.

I still have a feeling Immonen and Pock may not be back after this season.

Then you have a guy like Falardeau who's in Charlotte and they may give up on him, too; Mark Lee and Ryan Constant. They'll clear guys out of there, too, to make room.

Tell you the truth, I'm not even so sure about Dawes. Seems like they're not all that satisfied with him. You would think if they were, he would have been called up; not Dubinsky and Callahan. Got a figure something could hbe up with this.

Should be an interesting spring and summer.

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i think pock is gone and lampman is the new 7th d man

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i think pock is gone and lampman is the new 7th d man

I disagree.

I think they're both gone and Baranka or Liffiton becomes the 7th Defenseman, next season. Of course depending on how Liffiton does in his call-up and how they both do in next season's training camp.

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imo either baranka is a top 6 or he is down in hartford, but i can see lifton as the 7th d man

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Roche won't get signed. He did not do enough in college. It would be a waste of a signing.

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not sure on him...but reese and olver i.m.o. will be signed

seriously, i might even get an olver wolfpack jersey, thats how confident i am that he will begin to bust out

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