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03-17-2007, 08:55 PM
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Why are people getting mad at Renney? The Rangers weren't allowed to keep him up.
I don't get it either.

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03-17-2007, 08:57 PM
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People call Renney a moron without knowing why Dubinsky didn't play.

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03-17-2007, 09:05 PM
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He looked great last night...I don't understand the move....Not with Isbister (who can't finish) and Orr in the lineup...

With Straka injured Dubinskys stay in Hartford SHOULD be very short.....
i dont know, I can see Dawes called up though which would not be bad.

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03-17-2007, 09:16 PM
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And remember, Isbister was left off of the Hartford active roster. I don't beleive he can be sent back down.
The AHL active roster for the PO's is always made into a story by the media, but its actually pretty much joke.

If a NHL team trys to send down a bunch of NHL players just to get experience in the AHL playoffs, the AHL can stop it. But I do think we easily could have sent down Isbister. There are a bunch of triggers that allows you to add players too it, if I remember correctly a NHL player can go down if he have played a certain amount of games in the AHL for example, a number Isbister must have reached.

Renney had to choose between Dubinsky and Isbister, and went with Isbister. Now I thought Isbister had a good game tonight, but I don't know, it must be tough for Dubinsky... He have played really well.

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03-17-2007, 09:20 PM
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Isbister tries but

he can't hit the side of a barn.


I play Dubinsky over him today at 20, no question..

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The AHL active roster for the PO's is always made into a story by the media, but its actually pretty much joke.

If a NHL team trys to send down a bunch of NHL players just to get experience in the AHL playoffs, the AHL can stop it. But I do think we easily could have sent down Isbister. There are a bunch of triggers that allows you to add players too it, if I remember correctly a NHL player can go down if he have played a certain amount of games in the AHL for example, a number Isbister must have reached.

Renney had to choose between Dubinsky and Isbister, and went with Isbister. Now I thought Isbister had a good game tonight, but I don't know, it must be tough for Dubinsky... He have played really well.
im not being sarcastic, but let me tell ya, ola you are one hell of a poster. great info, thanks for the post!

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03-17-2007, 09:23 PM
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Dubi will be back on the roster when we make the playoffs....

I know, bold statement, us making the playoffs...

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03-17-2007, 09:37 PM
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Dubi will be back on the roster when we make the playoffs....

I know, bold statement, us making the playoffs...
The playoff roster is set--unless there is an injury then no player can get called up for the playoffs.

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The playoff roster is set--unless there is an injury then no player can get called up for the playoffs.
I thought that the roster could expand to 25 players for the playoffs... yes, no?

If not, my bad then.

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I thought that the roster could expand to 25 players for the playoffs... yes, no?

If not, my bad then.
Nope.

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03-17-2007, 09:43 PM
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im not being sarcastic, but let me tell ya, ola you are one hell of a poster. great info, thanks for the post!
Thanks man!

I am not sure if I am right, but if I remember correctly there are a number of "emergency situations", one of them is if one player is recalled to the NHL, another can be added to the AHL roster. So we could basically have recalled Dubi again and sent Isbister down to replace him, aren't 100% though.

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According to AHL by-laws, only those players listed on a team's Clear Day roster are eligible to compete in the remainder of the AHL regular season and in the 2007 Calder Cup Playoffs, unless emergency conditions arise as a result of recall, injury or suspension. Teams may also add signed junior players or players on amateur tryout contracts after their respective seasons are complete.


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If a NHL team trys to send down a bunch of NHL players just to get experience in the AHL playoffs, the AHL can stop it. But I do think we easily could have sent down Isbister. There are a bunch of triggers that allows you to add players too it, if I remember correctly a NHL player can go down if he have played a certain amount of games in the AHL for example, a number Isbister must have reached.
Isn't there a rule like only 3 permanent call-ups after the trade deadline? Isbister being a permanent call-up because he replaced Dupuis.

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03-18-2007, 12:58 AM
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Good Lord, people! Why is everyone freaking out? Do you realize how many young players the team has on it now? They've shown a pattern of bringing guys up for a taste, sending them back down and bringing them up permanently later. Dubinsky's had his taste and he'll be back to stay sooner rather than later.

Perhaps much sooner depending on Straka's injury...

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03-18-2007, 01:31 AM
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Dubinksy better be right back up for the next game if Straka is out. And he better get more than 8 minutes. I've seen nothing from him that tells me he can't play in this league.

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03-18-2007, 07:42 AM
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Recall rules at the end of the season are pretty arcane. For example, the Pack tried to recall Pikkarainen from Charlotte only to have to send him back down since some obscure rle stated he had to play 8 games in Chalotte before being eligible for recall.

You don't get unlimited player movement between the AHL and NHL. FWIW, only 4 recalls are allowed, and I think the Rangers have used 2. Emergency callups are allowed, but are limited in duration.

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03-18-2007, 07:59 AM
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Dubinksy better be right back up for the next game if Straka is out. And he better get more than 8 minutes. I've seen nothing from him that tells me he can't play in this league.
Is Straka in a diminished capacity that much better than a young, healthy Dubinsky, who can win faceoffs and add a physical element, too? Why not just IR Straka, and give him some time to heal, while taking advantage of some fresh legs in Dubinsky?

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03-18-2007, 08:09 AM
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Is Straka in a diminished capacity that much better than a young, healthy Dubinsky, who can win faceoffs and add a physical element, too? Why not just IR Straka, and give him some time to heal, while taking advantage of some fresh legs in Dubinsky?
Because Renney's an idiot. I'm not positive, but I don't think even he thought to rest Jagr in the 7-0 blowout. I was beyond belief that Jagr was still out there with 15 minutes to play let alone anything under 10.

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03-18-2007, 08:20 AM
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Because Renney's an idiot. I'm not positive, but I don't think even he thought to rest Jagr in the 7-0 blowout. I was beyond belief that Jagr was still out there with 15 minutes to play let alone anything under 10.
I think it's more than just Renney...I'm not sure why they feel the have to protect their emergency call-ups...and, since Straka is hurt, unless there's a restriction on the amount of players that can occupy the IR, (somebody correct me if there is), I'm not sure there isn't a reason to allow Dubi to replace Straka, especially to get Straka some needed rest possibly for the POs.

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03-18-2007, 08:24 AM
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Jagr played only 16 minutes last night....his lowest total of the year..minus games in which he was injured.....Lay off Renney....this is the same coach who is pretty close to getting this team in the PO's for two years in a row......

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03-18-2007, 08:31 AM
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The Rangers are allowed only 4 regular call ups after the trading deadline

Most of the players are being recalled from the Hartford Wolf Pack of the American Hockey League (AHL) on an emergency basis

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New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that forward Ryan Callahan has been recalled from the Hartford Wolf Pack of the American Hockey League (AHL) on an emergency basis
http://www.newyorkrangers.com/pressb...es.asp?id=2760

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New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that defenseman David Liffiton has been recalled from the Hartford Wolf Pack of the American Hockey League (AHL) on an emergency basis
http://www.newyorkrangers.com/pressb...es.asp?id=2756

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New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that forward Brandon Dubinsky and defenseman David Liffiton have been recalled from the Hartford Wolf Pack of the American Hockey League (AHL) on an emergency basis
http://www.newyorkrangers.com/pressb...es.asp?id=2732

Once the injured or sick player is healthy,the Rangers send the other player back down

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I guess one would ask....

why Isbister gets the real call-up and the others are on an emergency basis. Both Dubinsky and Callahan were worthy of call-ups before Isbister, and Callahan has outplayed Isbister by a wide margin in his two games.

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The Rangers are allowed only 4 regular call ups after the trading deadline

Most of the players are being recalled from the Hartford Wolf Pack of the American Hockey League (AHL) on an emergency basis



http://www.newyorkrangers.com/pressb...es.asp?id=2760



http://www.newyorkrangers.com/pressb...es.asp?id=2756



http://www.newyorkrangers.com/pressb...es.asp?id=2732

Once the injured or sick player is healthy,the Rangers send the other player back down
Thank you for the information you have supplied. Our "knowedgeable" fan base should be embarrased at their ignorence. JHC fire Renney is all I hear or read when something bad happens or something that they cannot comprehend. Don't bother to try and find out what's really happening just "fire Renney"

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03-18-2007, 08:59 AM
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Isbister was called up on 2/21 and 2/27 which was before the trading deadline

Isbister isn't on the Hartford clear day roster.When the Rangers season,Isbister will not be sent back to Hartford.That was the indication

The CBA is so complex.Conditioning stints aren't allowed after the trading deadline,etc

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03-18-2007, 09:41 AM
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[QUOTE=DarthSather99;8543552]People should relax. Dubinsky needs to play alot. He looks good but will get better. Giving a player a taste is good, the Rangers have done this alot with their younger players.

He should be playing ALOT up HERE!!!!!!!!!!

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Besides, when Shanahan and/or Hossa return, I'm a lot more comfortable seeing Isbister as the healthy scratch, rather than Callahan or Dubinsky

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