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03-21-2007, 09:20 AM
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Kluzak was clearly kidding, although after the one punch KO Kevin Dineen put on him at the Garden back in the late 80's he might have wished it was already banned.
You think so? I'll have to watch it again...seemed like he was trying to believe what he was saying...it was awkward, for sure.

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03-21-2007, 09:31 AM
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You think so? I'll have to watch it again...seemed like he was trying to believe what he was saying...it was awkward, for sure.
I'm with Wally here, I can't believe he thinks that- but maybe to many discussions with scholars over in Cambridge has changed his thinking.

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03-21-2007, 10:31 AM
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haha... it "bastardizes" the game.

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03-21-2007, 11:46 AM
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Whether he's kidding or not is of no consequence really. A lot of our convictions at 20 sure change by the time we're 40.

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03-21-2007, 11:52 AM
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Makes you wonder how the heck did he even survived in a fight vs. Probert.
Remember,Kyte was one tough ***** who beat Jay Miller,Kocur,McSorley before being KO'd by Kocur. He still came back to win many more than he lost. Kluzak was no pushover either and to hang in there with Kyte taking those shots takes stones!

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03-21-2007, 12:03 PM
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much ado about nothing...it was just a staged point ....counter point thing...
That was what I thought when I heard those words coming from Gord. He was simply playing Devils Advocate for the show, imo. I guess NESN figures it would be pretty boring for Him and Nifty to agree on every point. Kind of a head-scratcher why Kluzak took that side on THAT issue otherwise.

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03-21-2007, 12:46 PM
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Remember,Kyte was one tough ***** who beat Jay Miller,Kocur,McSorley before being KO'd by Kocur. He still came back to win many more than he lost. Kluzak was no pushover either and to hang in there with Kyte taking those shots takes stones!
I don't remember Kyte beating Miller...but, yeah, he was tough. Still, Gordie took a pretty good beatin' in that fight.

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03-21-2007, 12:58 PM
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I remember every time a fight involving more than two players broke out Gord would sound like mother hen as if his 4 year old child was about to jump into the mix. Go on youtube and check out the Washington Capitals brawl or the Sens brawls with the goalie fights he sounds like he's about to cry.

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03-21-2007, 01:28 PM
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Remember,Kyte was one tough ***** who beat Jay Miller,Kocur,McSorley before being KO'd by Kocur. He still came back to win many more than he lost. Kluzak was no pushover either and to hang in there with Kyte taking those shots takes stones!
You can add Dave Brown to the list of guys Kyte tangled with and faired pretty well.

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03-21-2007, 02:03 PM
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haha... it "bastardizes" the game.
I laughed when I heard that...

I wish we had a pro-fighting guy along Kluzak just to set him straight. Get Stock on that NESN broadcast team...

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03-21-2007, 02:14 PM
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You can add Dave Brown to the list of guys Kyte tangled with and faired pretty well.
I think Dave Brown's first NHL fight included a sucker punch of Kluzak

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03-21-2007, 02:18 PM
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if he doesn't like fighting, don't watch hockey, because with out fighting hockey would suck.

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03-21-2007, 02:24 PM
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Wow Kluzak took some shots. Jesus.

Tough SOB.

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03-21-2007, 02:31 PM
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That was what I thought when I heard those words coming from Gord. He was simply playing Devils Advocate for the show, imo. I guess NESN figures it would be pretty boring for Him and Nifty to agree on every point. Kind of a head-scratcher why Kluzak took that side on THAT issue otherwise.
no different than the non fighting Middleton took the tough guy position.

All part of the show IMO...

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03-21-2007, 02:51 PM
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no different than the non fighting Middleton took the tough guy position.

All part of the show IMO...
I guess I'd just prefer to hear what they really think...

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03-21-2007, 04:36 PM
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I think Dave Brown's first NHL fight included a sucker punch of Kluzak
George McPhee the caps GM was one tough fellow,I remember him taking on Brown on a couple different occassions and fairing pretty well.

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03-21-2007, 04:46 PM
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Wow Kluzak took some shots. Jesus.

Tough SOB.
I wish Kyte had been in the studio last night after Kluzak made his stupid speach.

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03-21-2007, 04:58 PM
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I can recall Kluzak becoming hotter than a volcano when Chris Nilan, sitting across from Gord in the old glassless Garden penalty box, needled him about Salem State.

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03-21-2007, 05:58 PM
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He did make a good point that it's always the same goons getting into fights now. The fights should have some type of meaning, not just 2 guys who's job it is to get into fights, those guys aren't hockey players.
Kluzak's correct. In old time hockey, many of the greats and near-greats weren't afraid to drop their gloves to settle scores. Today it's little more than a staged sideshow between AHL bench-warmers.

I like Kluzak. He isn't afraid to express his opinion.

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03-21-2007, 06:55 PM
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Could you imagine if we took Scott Stevens instead of Kluzak that year? Scott Stevens would have been Boston's favorite son IMO....We also took Brian Curran, Lyndon Byers, Dave Reid and Bob Sweeney in that draft...

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03-21-2007, 09:09 PM
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Could you imagine if we took Scott Stevens instead of Kluzak that year? Scott Stevens would have been Boston's favorite son IMO....We also took Brian Curran, Lyndon Byers, Dave Reid and Bob Sweeney in that draft...
The thinking was Kluzak was gonna be another Larry Robinson they hoped,big,tough,offensively and defensively gifted. Injuries ruined his progression.

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03-21-2007, 09:16 PM
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I am one of the biggest hockey fight fans you will ever come across. Because of Gordie's comments, I just lost a TON of respect from his insight. I can't say much for what he has done for this organization in the past and I respect him for that but I may never be willing to listen to his talk ever again. That's a ridiculous coment.

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03-22-2007, 09:32 AM
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Kluzak's correct. In old time hockey, many of the greats and near-greats weren't afraid to drop their gloves to settle scores. Today it's little more than a staged sideshow between AHL bench-warmers.

I like Kluzak. He isn't afraid to express his opinion.
Growing up, John Ferguson was my favorite player. I was a big Nilan fan. My blood pressure would go up whenever they played the B's knowing Nilan or Kordic would meet up with Miller.

I didn't hear Kluzak's arguement, but I'm changing my view on its place in the game. Players squaring up because it's their role ? After a faceoff, not realted to the intensity of the game ?

I'm caught in between on the whole issue. I like the idea of the players self policing, making sure a player knows he has to answer for his actions. The instigator rule in some ways prevents this.

More often than not, it's become a sideshow. Players fighting when emotion boils over was an added bonus to the game. Now, it's not.

Another issue is danger. Fergy/Ted Green would break a nose or a ahnd at the worst. Bigger,stronger players, adds an ammount of danger that changes everything. A schoolyard fight in the 60'sw was just that, now it's more. Same standard.

When they say they should eliminate fighting, what do they mean ? Technically, they always have. It's illegal, a penalty. Are they saying a fighting major=game msiconduct ? Suspension ?

I think someone needs to define how they'd eliminate it. If they could give refs discretionnary power, to adress fights unrelated to the game ?

I definitely have changed on the issue, and a lot of people that grew up cheering on tough guys feel that way.

Ironically Stock's on the radio as I type talking about his all time tough guy list.

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03-22-2007, 09:53 AM
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Kluzak's correct. In old time hockey, many of the greats and near-greats weren't afraid to drop their gloves to settle scores. Today it's little more than a staged sideshow between AHL bench-warmers.

Well Said.Ala Bobby Orr taking care of business with Pat Quinn and telling the Boys to back off of Gordie Howe when Gordie caught Bobby with his head down.

I love a good a hockey fight,when its between to players who can play the game and their emotions get the best of them but to bring in a side show of Goonerism I'm not for.

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