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06-06-2014, 02:19 PM
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There is no way in hell that the Penguins are getting the best defenseman in the league for Kris Letang and a pick. Sorry. There's no other way I can put it. The owners ponied up the cash for Weber. They will have paid nearly half of his salary after this month. Nashville does not need to free up "$3 million in cash". Never. Gonna. Happen.
oh you forgot Drew Doughty is the best all around defenseman in the league..... two gold medals working on a second stanley cup...

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06-06-2014, 02:19 PM
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maybe throw in James neal 26 year old 40 goalscorer....
Now there's a huge piece that you left out, however I still wouldn't do it. James Neal, aside from being a dirtbag, isn't capable of scoring 40 without Crosby/Malkin.

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06-06-2014, 02:20 PM
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what would you do Scotty bowman Shea Weber is wasting in nashville.. he will never sniff the cup there....
You are literally talking to yourself half the time and the other half responding to the same posts with different and stranger responses.

Strong gimmick if it is one.

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06-06-2014, 02:21 PM
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No...., he'd be wasting his talents if he slacked off and started gaining massive weight. I don't see how being the best defenseman in the league and leading your team as captain can be a waste. Unless it's considered a waste of a career if you don't win the cup, since he's made the playoffs more than missed it in his career if I recall.
Whether it is fair or not the great ones are measured by cahmpionships in every sport. ala Dan Marino..... thats what Shea Weber will be..

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I completely agree with you and I think that the organization is currently taking those steps. The first steps were:

1) Trading Martin Erat for Filip Forsberg
2) Trading David Legwand for Calle Jarnkrok
3) Firing David Poile & hiring Peter Laviolette

Now hopefully Poile can make a splash by signing Stastny or perhaps trading for Spezza. It's not like Nashville is just withering away...
The main problem is that they aren't close to contending for atleast two more seasons. A top-tier free agent like Stastny won't sign with a team like Nashville due to lack of contention. A trade for Spezza in the same breath only guarantees him to play in Nashville for a year.

Nashville needs to start going after players already signed to extended contracts, and at a prime NHL age (Eberle etc.) This needs to be relatively quickly or they need a home-run in the draft. It's harder for the later when you're a middle of the pack team every year.

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06-06-2014, 02:22 PM
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its luaghable why ?


The point is Shea Weber needs out of Nashville... kris letang isn't Shea Weber but he is a 26 year old, fast skating offensive player who could help Nashville. Change of scenery for both..

what would you do? Scotty bowman...
Probably because in your propsal we lose the best defenseman in the league, get worse defensively and offensively, and we don't get one 70-100 point forward to go along with Letang.

We don't need a change of scenary we're half way through a re-build. Would you trade Crosby for Kyle Okposo because you've flopped in the playoffs the last three years? No, because he's about to hit how prime and you just need some small change ups. It's the same with us.

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Whether it is fair or not the great ones are measured by cahmpionships in every sport. ala Dan Marino..... thats what Shea Weber will be..
I wouldn't play the NFL QB comparison game, because as of right now Crosby is looking an awful lot like Peyton Manning.

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Seeing Drew Doughty, Duncan Keith and Ryan McDonagh(to a lesser extent) all doing so well in playoffs, is Shea Weber just wasting his talents in Nashville? They rarely make the playoffs and the top players prove their worth in the playoffs. I want to see Shea Weber in the playoffs every year to see what he can do? Shea Weber on a team like the Penguins would be killer. How do you guys think Shea Weber would do in the playoffs if he was on a team that made the playoffs every year?
IS hall wasting his time in Edmonton? This thread has more to do with non-traditional market then anything else. Are the leaf players wasting their career in TO after one playoff run in 7 years? We never get those threads

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06-06-2014, 02:32 PM
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If Weber was unhappy and wanted to leave Nashville he wouldn't have signed the Flyers offersheet. And If Nashville didn't want to pay that much to Weber, they shouldn't have matched it. So I don't see how a player who is happy where he is, is the top dman in the league, and captain of a team can be considered 'wasting his career'. And it is laughable to suggest Letang + 1st gets Weber, they should have just let Weber leave and took Philly's 4 1st rounders, that is better value than what has been offerred in this thread so far.

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06-06-2014, 02:35 PM
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Shea Weber isn't wasted in Nashville. This post doesn't make sense.

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Lets just cut to the chase and have a rule that no sunbelt teams can have good players.

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Lets just cut to the chase and have a rule that no sunbelt teams can have good players.
That pretty much sums up this thread.

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"Is Shea Weber just wasting his career/talent in Nashville?"

Intentional or not, the thread title (there's been some dandies lately) is a direct slap at Nashville, one that is baseless, given that they've earned a playoff birth the vast majority of Weber's time there.

Moreover, it implies that players should only seek to jump on the bandwagon of winning teams. Be front runners, in other words, otherwise, they are not relevant.

Actually, being competitors they are, many players, as long as they are fairly compensated and treated well, want to stick it out and help make their teams winners, as opposed to seeking instantaneous gratification, the easy route to success . As Weber does, no doubt.

So, the answer to your question is: no.

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06-06-2014, 02:58 PM
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I like Weber a lot even though I think he's a cheap little POS at times (zetterberg incident). It sucks he's wasting his time away in Nashville. Just don't see Nashville doing anything in the future. But hell if he likes it, more power to him.

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I would like to see Shea Weber in Pittsburgh for Kris Letang and a prospect or draft pick....
Good luck with that

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This is just patronising.

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Not only he is wasting his career but it's more like Nashville is wasting their time of having this gem in their line-up and not able to use it to his worth. They could get a klondike in trading him and fill many other needs and make their team better. Poile is Nashville's best asset and their biggest detriment in competing. I mean he did a lot of good by being savy and conservative but he's so conservative that he has not done the risky moves to make the Preds progress.

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It sucks he's wasting his time away in Nashville.
How quickly we forget.

Prior to the spring of 2012, some were saying the same about Kopitar, Doughty, Brown, et al in LA. Bet you loved that.

Irony.

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its luaghable why ?


The point is Shea Weber needs out of Nashville... kris letang isn't Shea Weber but he is a 26 year old, fast skating offensive player who could help Nashville. Change of scenery for both..

what would you do? Scotty bowman...
It's laughable because there are trades being proposed and this isn't the trade forum, but that's just how I see it I guess.

What we have here is a person asking a legitimate question (Is Weber wasting his talent in Nashville?) mixed in with a lot of defensive Preds fans (rightfully so) and people who are looking for excuses to say he should leave Nashville. After all, if he leaves Nashville maybe he'll go to their team.

Weber is not wasting his talent in Nashville. His talent has grown. If he felt like he would be wasting his career in Nashville then he wouldn't have signed a 14 year long offer sheet that he had to have known Nashville was going to match. As far as I can tell, a player's opinion on what is and is not a waste of his own career is much more important than an outside observer's opinion on the same subject.

So no. He is doing neither.

If people want to make trade proposals they should do so in the appropriate place, but I can guarantee a "Letang + Prospect/Pick for Weber" proposal will be shot down as fast as it is presented.

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The Nashville Predators need Shea Weber.

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06-06-2014, 03:04 PM
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How quickly we forget.

Prior to the spring of 2012, some were saying the same about Kopitar, Doughty, Brown, et al in LA. Bet you loved that.

Irony.
Well that's stupid, who does Nashville have outside of Weber? Kopitar is an elite center, Doughty is an elite defenseman. Weber is just by himself.

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Not only he is wasting his career but it's more like Nashville is wasting their time of having this gem in their line-up and not able to use it to his worth. They could get a klondike in trading him and fill many other needs and make their team better. Poile is Nashville's best asset and their biggest detriment in competing. I mean he did a lot of good by being savy and conservative but he's so conservative that he has not done the risky moves to make the Preds progress.
Poile acquired Jarnkrok, Forsberg Jones and MDZ in a year, it's clear we're in the middle of retooling just look at our defense, it's pretty muh complete. Weber will be the key piece for our team for years.

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Well that's stupid, who does Nashville have outside of Weber? Kopitar is an elite center, Doughty is an elite defenseman. Weber is just by himself.
Rinne, Josi, Jones, and a new head coach to develop Smith, Wilson, Forsberg, Jarnkrok, etc. Oh and considering Ellis and Ekholm both took huge strides forward last season, Weber could be the anchor to the best blueline in the league within a season or two.

It's funny how people will harp on how Weber has nothing whenever it's convenient, but, as we have seen in the past, as soon as people start to compliment the guy we have the usual suspects coming out to tell us how he gets to play in front of Rinne, or next to Josi, or how good his blueline is and, up until now, "Trotz's defensive system"

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Poile acquired Jarnkrok, Forsberg Jones and MDZ in a year, it's clear we're in the middle of retooling just look at our defense, it's pretty muh complete. Weber will be the key piece for our team for years.
It will be nice to see the Preds do good, hopefully with Trotz gone your team will play better.

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