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06-17-2014, 11:05 PM
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I'm changed my mind after reading that article.. we need to make Stralman a priority.
Girardi has to be traded if Stralman is re-signed IMO

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06-17-2014, 11:07 PM
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Girardi has to be traded if Stralman is re-signed IMO
well that's not going to happen he has a NMC.

However, I think we can still sign him if its around 4M while keeping Girardi.

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06-17-2014, 11:09 PM
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well that's not going to happen he has a NMC.

However, I think we can still sign him if its around 4M while keeping Girardi.
Not really, all Sather needs is a list of teams Girardi is willing to waive his NMC, trust me teams will want Girardi even at his new deal

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06-17-2014, 11:12 PM
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Not really, all Sather needs is a list of teams Girardi is willing to waive his NMC, trust me teams will want Girardi even at his new deal
Oh I dont doubt many teams would line up to trade for him.

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06-17-2014, 11:13 PM
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Oh I dont doubt many teams would line up to trade for him.
Well I'm not saying every team, but you don't the Leafs would want him and Girardi wouldn't want to go and play in Toronto. All I'm saying is that trading Girardi isn't impossible even with a NMC

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It's like people are trying to NOT admit stralman is good or something because if they keep denying it then surely he will have a cheap price tag or something

The guy is good enough for 4mill. Period. Alot worse make more in this league.

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06-18-2014, 06:43 AM
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Actually going to be mad if they do not sign him.

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06-18-2014, 12:21 PM
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Actually going to be mad if they do not sign him.
Get ready for Girardi-Klein-Diaz down the right side .


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06-20-2014, 08:07 AM
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Get ready for Girardi-Klein-Diaz down the right side .

If Stralman gets north of 4M AAV, I am Ok with above until
McIlrath is ready

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06-20-2014, 09:06 AM
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I have no problem paying Stralman between 4M and 5M. If it's term he's after, give him 4M for 4 years.

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06-20-2014, 09:45 PM
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He'll get north of 4 for sure. Maybe even north of 5 with those numbers. Sucks. I love Stralmans game.

His ability to hold onto the puck and make a play works perfectly in AVs system. He's a quiet player but he might be the most important defenseman on the Rangers in regards to possession play.


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06-20-2014, 09:58 PM
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What if we give him 5 years and 20M (4M AAV).. I think he's more about security (term) than he is money.

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06-20-2014, 10:03 PM
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let him go. team needs to get tougher.
Have you really watched him play?

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What if we give him 5 years and 20M (4M AAV).. I think he's more about security (term) than he is money.
I'd do that. Problem is someone will come over the top with 4.75 over 5

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let him go. team needs to get tougher.
Have you really watched him play?
Uh yeah, every game hes played on the Rangers. He's a durable, top four defenseman with elite Corsi ratings. Not sure what you are watching.

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06-20-2014, 10:17 PM
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I'd do that. Problem is someone will come over the top with 4.75 over 5
Yeah, but he could ultimately pick NY before he even hits FA if we offered him that.

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06-20-2014, 10:18 PM
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let him go. team needs to get tougher.
Have you really watched him play?
I saw him completely kill Carter twice in the finals with big time hits... He's a very good dman.

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06-20-2014, 10:36 PM
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I saw him completely kill Carter twice in the finals with big time hits... He's a very good dman.
unless Carter is Jesus, surely he could have only completely killed him once?







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06-20-2014, 11:01 PM
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He'll get north of 4 for sure. Maybe even north of 5 with those numbers. Sucks. I love Stralmans game.

His ability to hold onto the puck and make a play works perfectly in AVs system. He's a quiet player but he might be the most important defenseman on the Rangers in regards to possession play.
Those numbers don't get people paid.

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06-20-2014, 11:03 PM
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part of me does wonder if playing with Staal also helped him alot.. I go back and forth if this guy is worth the $$ he's gonna be seeking. at 4M I absolutely bring him back though.

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part of me does wonder if playing with Staal also helped him alot.. I go back and forth if this guy is worth the $$ he's gonna be seeking. at 4M I absolutely bring him back though.
Stralman without Staal this season: 56.1 CF%
Staal without Stralman: 48.6%

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06-22-2014, 05:59 AM
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Stralman's been playing for this contract for three seasons.

He deserves a raise but the question is he's going to be loyal and allow the Rangers to match any other teams offers.

They're not re-signing him prior to July 1st. Considering how the Rangers ressurected this guy's career, the least he and his agent can do is give them the courtesy prior to signing a deal with another team.

They Rangers will give him term if another club goes over 4 million.

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06-22-2014, 06:26 AM
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You're usually only an UFA once in your prime. There is no way Stralman stays for 4M per, especially in NY where the cost of living is higher. He is young, with a young family which he has reiterated is his #1 priority in securing their future. This is his career payday. If a team is willing to give him 5M+ per (and I'm sure there will be) he is gone. We all wish they had to foresight to lock him up earlier. Imagine the boards if he was extended last summer at 4M per, the boards would have revolted, now we are all praying he takes it, which I don't think he will. If he does re-sign for 4M he is one loyal sob, and we shall speak his name!

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06-22-2014, 06:38 AM
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Stralman's been playing for this contract for three seasons.

He deserves a raise but the question is he's going to be loyal and allow the Rangers to match any other teams offers.

They're not re-signing him prior to July 1st. Considering how the Rangers ressurected this guy's career, the least he and his agent can do is give them the courtesy prior to signing a deal with another team.

They Rangers will give him term if another club goes over 4 million.
Really, he owes the Rangers no such thing. The team left many players in the air and if a UFA does not know what the team truly intends to do, they are free to do what they want and owe the team zero. There is no need for any player to risk losing a potential signing elsewhere when their existing team hasn't (1) committed to them and (2) seems to be waiting till July 1st to apparently test waters. That's a risk the team takes and the player has every right to do as he sees fit.

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06-22-2014, 07:47 AM
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It's well known that highly sought after UFA's often score contracts well in excess of their actual value. Look at Clowe and Clarkson last year. The Rangers could offer Anton $4 mil + and he'd still turn them down at this point. A couple days from now he can more or less start negotiating with other teams. I'm thinking he and his agent are thinking we might as well see what other teams might offer.

IMO Stralman is not coming back and some of us are just going to have to learn to live with it.

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