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06-20-2014, 10:38 AM
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This thread is literally nauseating.

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06-20-2014, 11:24 AM
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I'm somewhat curious to know who your ideal coach would be for this team?
My ideal coach is the best coach available on the market, NOT the best coach available on the market that can speak french to appease francophones.

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06-20-2014, 11:44 AM
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My ideal coach is the best coach available on the market, NOT the best coach available on the market that can speak french to appease francophones.
This come back all the time, and I feel most people are missing the point.

We all understand, including the habs management, that requiring a coach to speak french cut good candidates from being considered. WE GET IT. It doesn't mean it's going to change any time soon.

The habs, as a franchise, have been very tight to Quebec and quebecers national history. This isn't something that we "want". This isn't something that is debatable. This is a fact. If you don't understand this fact, or don't care about it, then you don't understand the deep historic importance of the franchise you root for. It's as simple as that.

Coming back again and again and again with the french-speaking-coach rant won't change anything. The habs won't suddenly be less closely associated with Quebec and its francophones just because someone feels it's detrimental for the on-ice product.

Every owner, every GM, since god knows when, has understand that and has selected french-speaking coaches. The last time it didn't happened, we all saw the public and media reaction. And management understand - more than absolutely everyone here - the importance of selecting a talented coach too.

Does it mean the situation is eternal? Who knows. Maybe one day there will not have any french speaking coach available, and the habs will have to make a thought decision. Maybe an incredible candidate with local ties (Babcock) will become available at the right time and change everything. Until then, whining about this is as productive as whining about the weather or the taxes.

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06-20-2014, 11:51 AM
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Not specifically, but cutting his ice-time in favor of players who aren't in the medium-/long-term (hell, even short-term) plans is fairly bizarre.

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06-20-2014, 12:14 PM
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he hasnt even played a full 2 seasons yet...chill.

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06-20-2014, 12:18 PM
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**** that french coach ********. the same people that would whine when we get an english coach are the same idiots that complain that montreal is never a top team and hasnt won a cup for 20 years. theres like 2 good french coaches and montreal doesnt have one of them

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06-20-2014, 07:36 PM
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he hasnt even played a full 2 seasons yet...chill.
Agreed. He isn't ruined until hes forced to sign a bridge deal.

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06-21-2014, 12:27 AM
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I think that the Habs did good to bring Galchenyuk in his first season.
He did pretty well too.

We will have to wait till next season or the following one to see what he can do.
He did not get as many points this season but he is making his place in the league.

Don't know when it will happen but three years from now, he will be a top scorer in our team.
As an offensive player we will know before 23 years old (still remember Leclair who did OK (.5 ppg) at 22, 23 and exploded at 25!).

We already see many things from him...

I have the feeling that Galchenyuk is not in the same mold as PK who came out very explosive.
At the same time, I have the feeling that he has the same compete level. Just not the same evolution.
But again, PK had two more season in OHL and a full season in AHL.
At this point Gally has 2 seasons (1/2 in OHL and 1.5 in NHL).
So 2015-16 would be the season.

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06-21-2014, 12:59 AM
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No. Galch will turn out to be another Damphousse/Turgeon, but he has to start playing in the position he was drafted for.

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06-21-2014, 01:12 AM
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No. Galch will turn out to be another Damphousse/Turgeon, but he has to start playing in the position he was drafted for.
And I don't want to watch some rookie at center, not to mention we already have centers for days.

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06-21-2014, 09:52 AM
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A couple of things that keep coming up here that are myths...

1-that center is his "natural position", he hasn't played there in 3+ years when he was 16 in the OHL

2-that he needs to play center to develop, look at Kane Kessel Perry St.Louis Iginla Sharp Benn Parise Jagr who have all had great offensive careers playing on the wing or even ROR last year setting a career high playing LW despite being a center until that point.


Above all else Galchenyuk needs to make strides offensively, to be a 55-60 point guy or better, he isn't there yet. That is where his primary focus should be not learning faceoffs of defensive coverage as a center.
I agree with you about both your points but there is a difference between Galchenyuk and the players you mentioned. He does not have the same explosive acceleration yet that they all had coming into the NHL. He still takes longer to get to top gear which is important on the wings. He has the vision, creativity and playmaking(knowing when to shoot or pass off the puck) ability to be an excellent centerman but if he gains expllosion two-three step acceleration a la Pacioretty, would he not be a far more dangerous winger offensively from either side of the ice?

People are forgetting Galchenyuk in the last year and a half is developing at the NHL level, not in junior. He is just 20-years-old so let's be patience for the next couple of years as he gains more size, strength and experience. This kid has so much upside potential and the drive to get there. There's no rush to put him at center. Learn how to generate more offense and then how to defend and take face-offs in game situations. An injury to one of the other centerman (DD, Pleky or Larry) could always accelerate his being used more at the centerman position if needed but it is still too early. Ultimately it is Chucky who will determine if he can be an NHL centerman.

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