HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Montreal will not sign Vanek

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-26-2014, 11:47 PM
  #351
Lafleurs Guy
Moderator
 
Lafleurs Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 37,882
vCash: 500
Too bad. We could've used him this year.

Anyways, we all knew he was probably a rental to begin with and who knows if this is even MB's call. Without him though, we definitely need help on the wings. Should be an interesting summer.

Lafleurs Guy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2014, 11:52 PM
  #352
Habs100
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,373
vCash: 500
Despite his lack of production in the playoffs, I wasn't worried about Vanek over the next 3 years: he'll help whatever team he's on.

But during the 4th year to the end of his next contract, given his lack of speed, he could become as useless as Gomez.

Smart move for MB to pass on him.

Habs100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2014, 11:55 PM
  #353
Watsatheo
Error 503 Service
 
Watsatheo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 33,940
vCash: 883
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habs100 View Post
Despite his lack of production in the playoffs, I wasn't worried about Vanek over the next 3 years: he'll help whatever team he's on.

But during the 4th year to the end of his next contract, given his lack of speed, he could become as useless as Gomez.

Smart move for MB to pass on him.
Like Markov he didnt produce using speed/skating though

Watsatheo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 12:10 AM
  #354
calder candidate
Registered User
 
calder candidate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 882
vCash: 500
I think the title should be, Vanek will not sign in Montreal...
If he want to stay in Mtl, Mtl would take him...

calder candidate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 12:21 AM
  #355
sandysan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 9,338
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by calder candidate View Post
I think the title should be, Vanek will not sign in Montreal...
If he want to stay in Mtl, Mtl would take him...
If he wanted to stay in Montreal, he probably should not have dogged it in the playoffs.

im glad we signed him as a rental, gave both sides a chance to evaluate the fit. From what I saw, bon voyage.

sandysan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 12:22 AM
  #356
Tyson
Registered User
 
Tyson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Country: United States
Posts: 10,293
vCash: 500
Vanek has world class skills but no heart

Tyson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 12:26 AM
  #357
groovejuice
Registered User
 
groovejuice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 8,461
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by calder candidate View Post
I think the title should be, Vanek will not sign in Montreal...
If he want to stay in Mtl, Mtl would take him...
Not sure about that. Has skill, but was a big time plooker in the POs.

I think he's a skilled, but lazy player. Valuable, but not worth nearly $7M.

groovejuice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 12:26 AM
  #358
deandebean
Registered User
 
deandebean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Gatineau
Country: uriname
Posts: 13,035
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pricenyuk View Post
Bergevin regarding Andrei Markov's desire to stay in Montreal being a factor in negotiations:

"Well it's huge, I mean a lot of people say things like they like Montreal and they want to stay in Montreal, but then you talk to them and you get the feeling that really isn't the case, but with Andrei, it really was the case and he proved it."

Hard to not think he's talking about Vanek there.
One day, I'll name you one of those players but I promised someone I wouldn't tell for now, at least until things settled regarding the UFA situaton.

deandebean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 12:32 AM
  #359
ForeverTherrien
Shea le veut
 
ForeverTherrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 7,399
vCash: 456
Most teams used to look the other way when their most skilled player phoned it in during the playoffs.

ForeverTherrien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 06:42 AM
  #360
Forlando
Registered User
 
Forlando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 595
vCash: 500
Vanek has tons of talent, but seeing him play a lot this year I realized how slow he can be...3 years down the road that's a killer (e.g. Lecavalier) and he is lookinv for a long term deal with mucho cash.

Forlando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 06:56 AM
  #361
Agnostic
11 Stanley Cups
 
Agnostic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,411
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by calder candidate View Post
I think the title should be, Vanek will not sign in Montreal...
If he want to stay in Mtl, Mtl would take him...
Why, you having a hard time believing that Bergevin doesn't like heartless, lazy, out of shape floaters?

Vanek will soon find he missed out on an opportunity not the other way around.

Agnostic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 08:45 AM
  #362
CHarlie
They feed me CHicken
 
CHarlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,859
vCash: 500
Bergevin already stated Vanek will not be back next year along with Murray and Parros.

CHarlie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 09:40 AM
  #363
Lafleurs Guy
Moderator
 
Lafleurs Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 37,882
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie View Post
Bergevin already stated Vanek will not be back next year along with Murray and Parros.
Well, at least there's some good news.

Noticeably absent there though is Bouillion's name. I sincerely hope that MT isn't talking his pal Bergevin into actually re-signing that guy. It will be a massive joke if Cube is back with us AGAIN next year.

Lafleurs Guy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:23 AM
  #364
Sorinth
Registered User
 
Sorinth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 4,419
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
Well, at least there's some good news.

Noticeably absent there though is Bouillion's name. I sincerely hope that MT isn't talking his pal Bergevin into actually re-signing that guy. It will be a massive joke if Cube is back with us AGAIN next year.
TSN is reporting they are actually negotiating with Bouillon

Quote:
Talks continue with three other free agents: captain Brian Gionta, and defencemen Mike Weaver and Francis Bouillon
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455784

Sorinth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:37 AM
  #365
Lafleurs Guy
Moderator
 
Lafleurs Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 37,882
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorinth View Post
TSN is reporting they are actually negotiating with Bouillon

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455784
Ridiculous.

Lafleurs Guy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:39 AM
  #366
overlords
youmyboyblou!
 
overlords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Planet Squanch
Posts: 26,793
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
Ridiculous.
Although it's curious that Murray definitely won't be back. Seems bergevin clued in to something Therrien never quite figured out.

overlords is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:43 AM
  #367
Lafleurs Guy
Moderator
 
Lafleurs Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 37,882
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlords View Post
Although it's curious that Murray definitely won't be back. Seems bergevin clued in to something Therrien never quite figured out.
Kind of sums up how I feel about MB. Makes some moves that are really good and then does things that make no sense whatsoever.

Re-signing Bouillion would really be a head scratcher for me. Just makes no sense at all.

Lafleurs Guy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:44 AM
  #368
Watsatheo
Error 503 Service
 
Watsatheo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 33,940
vCash: 883
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorinth View Post
TSN is reporting they are actually negotiating with Bouillon



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455784
Kinda predictable. My guess he wants something like 1.5M again but Habs offering closer to minimum wage. Once UFA hits I think he'll come running back to sign since I doubt anyone else wants him. Therrien will also try his best to protect his favourites.

Gionta probably wants longterm 4-5M. I think Habs will cave on this sadly and give him it.

Weaver I'm not sure Habs sign. He might get a big contract after his playoffs.

Watsatheo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:45 AM
  #369
sandysan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 9,338
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorinth View Post
TSN is reporting they are actually negotiating with Bouillon



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455784
I thought the ship had already sailed on Weaver, or was that just speculation ?

sandysan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:49 AM
  #370
sandysan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 9,338
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watsatheo View Post
Kinda predictable. My guess he wants something like 1.5M again but Habs offering closer to minimum wage. Once UFA hits I think he'll come running back to sign since I doubt anyone else wants him. Therrien will also try his best to protect his favourites.

Gionta probably wants longterm 4-5M. I think Habs will cave on this sadly and give him it.

Weaver I'm not sure Habs sign. He might get a big contract after his playoffs.
if gionta wants anything close to that term, thank him, shake his hand and pat him on the back as he walks out the door.

At this point gionta and longterm should not be in the same sentence. And if he wont take a dramatic hometown discount, then as much as I liked him in the past, and as much as he has provided as the teams captain, under those conditions,you gotta cut him loose.

sandysan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:51 AM
  #371
JLP
Refugee
 
JLP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 10,120
vCash: 500
Quote:
Talks continue with three other free agents: captain Brian Gionta, and defencemen Mike Weaver and Francis Bouillon
Let them all go, three fewer smurfs is a big step in the right direction.

Vanek was a rental who played like a rental, he had nothing to prove his career stats speak for him. Therrien is not a coach Vanek could play for imho.

JLP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:52 AM
  #372
Lafleurs Guy
Moderator
 
Lafleurs Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 37,882
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandysan View Post
if gionta wants anything close to that term, thank him, shake his hand and pat him on the back as he walks out the door.

At this point gionta and longterm should not be in the same sentence. And if he wont take a dramatic hometown discount, then as much as I liked him in the past, and as much as he has provided as the teams captain, under those conditions,you gotta cut him loose.
Yup. I'm good to have him back as a 3rd liner for a year or even two at low dollars. Other than that, thanks for your services.

And there's no way this guy should be near the PP anymore.

Lafleurs Guy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 10:58 AM
  #373
Watsatheo
Error 503 Service
 
Watsatheo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 33,940
vCash: 883
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandysan View Post
if gionta wants anything close to that term, thank him, shake his hand and pat him on the back as he walks out the door.

At this point gionta and longterm should not be in the same sentence. And if he wont take a dramatic hometown discount, then as much as I liked him in the past, and as much as he has provided as the teams captain, under those conditions,you gotta cut him loose.
Gionta is one of the top scorers available at UFA with this probably being his last significant contract. I don't think there's any doubt he's asking for more than 4M long term. Because he's the captain and there being little depth and replacement options at RW, Habs have little choice but to comply when you think about it.

I think people defending him and wanting him back are going to be really surprised how expensive he's going to be and how long he'll be signed for...

Watsatheo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 11:15 AM
  #374
the
Registered User
 
the's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,544
vCash: 50
It's unfortunate, like him or not Vanek brought this team to the next level. I can't help myself but to think that we won't be this good until when Galchenyuk develop himself.

I wish him the best, he will definitely make his future team one step closer to the Stanley Cup.

the is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2014, 11:19 AM
  #375
CHarlie
They feed me CHicken
 
CHarlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,859
vCash: 500
Well with Vanek not being resigned and us losing a 2nd and Collberg MB must have a good idea what his plan B is.............I hope.

CHarlie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:41 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2016 All Rights Reserved.