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02-08-2004, 08:25 PM
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Combing through the defense prospects...

...and I notice that Dennis Wideman is up to a +40 (and leading the O) with the Knights going into tonight's game against Windsor. He's picked up 6 powerplay goals and 18 powerplay assists out of the 16 goals and 31 assists he's tallied so far. Granted, playing for the powerhouse Knights is a boon, with their CHL leading 236 goals for (of which 85...EIGHTY FIVE have been powerplay goals...wow... that's two years worth of PPG for the Sabres) but Dennis might deserve a little consideration if the Sabres are looking to next year's Rochester blueline. At least get someone who, even if a project, could be labelled a prospect in there...

Pavel Voroshnin has had better production since going to Owen Sound, 2-10-12/+1 in his 27 games with the Attack and 4-14-16/-6 overall in 45 games. But he's still not to last season's level (36 points in 68 games).

Thomas Morrow's BU Terrier's won the Bean Pot tournie tonight. He's gone 0-3-3/+1 in 25 games as a freshman. Considering his size (6'6"), it would be nice to see his game develop more.

John Adam's, acrossed town from Morrow's Terriers as a member of the BC Eagles has picked up 2-4-6 in 27 games played. All his points have come in 16 Hockey East conf. games.

Denis Denisov has picked up 10 points (3-7) in 31 games with the Ak Bars Kazan, continuing to play well in the SEL. He's still my sleeper for a possible depth NHLer who could take over for someone like Brian Campbell if Soupy is finally moved on his way.

Denis Ezhov is playing at the junior level after some issues with transfer to CSKA Moscow. In 4 junior games he's gone 1-2-3 and in three SEL games he's been held without a point.

Calle Åslund has continued to play for Huddinge in Sweden's second tier. He has 1 goal, 1 assist and 2 points in 32 games. Of note to me is that he's picked up 72 PIM's, a career high, and some watchers have refered to him as playing a physical game. Granted, it's Sweden, but still any sort of body-on-body defenseman has to at least perk up my ears. At 6'3" and 212 lbs., he may have the size for North America, but until the brass decides to take a look at him in a training camp, he seems to be completely off the radar.

Martin Cizek is still AWOL from any league as far as I can tell. I combed the Hockej.cz site looking for him to no avail, and he's not to be found in the OHL this year.

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Martin Cizek is still AWOL from any league as far as I can tell. I combed the Hockej.cz site looking for him to no avail, and he's not to be found in the OHL this year.
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Cizek was traded to the Guelph Storm in June of 2003, however he was "wanted" back in the Czech Republic, and now finds himself with Kladno of the Czech ELJ league, as well as HC Beroun of Liga 1.

Whatever that means... I like the limited reports I hear about Aslund, he seems like the kind of physical 3rd-pairing defenseman I wish Fitzpatrick or Janik would be. I remember Wideman had fairly mediocre +/- stats early in the year so maybe it's not just a product of the team he plays on but his improved defense as well.

Chain, how many of these guys have you gotten a chance to see this year?

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Aslund is over 100 PIM now.....he had a game(s) within the last 3 weeks where his PIM really jumped.

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Whatever that means... I like the limited reports I hear about Aslund, he seems like the kind of physical 3rd-pairing defenseman I wish Fitzpatrick or Janik would be. I remember Wideman had fairly mediocre +/- stats early in the year so maybe it's not just a product of the team he plays on but his improved defense as well.

Chain, how many of these guys have you gotten a chance to see this year?
That was already posted about Cizek a while back but thanks for reposting it. He's sitting out and Guelph has two imports already, so the likelihood of him coming back to the OHL is pretty slim.

I've only seen Wideman in person this year and that was early before he put all of his game back together. I haven't made time to see an Attack game, and the other Europeans aren't on the radar (unless I can explain the expense of flying to Russia and Sweden to my wife... ). I like Dennis. I don't think he'll be much more than a specialist #6 if he makes it to the NHL, but he's got a little sand in his game and isn't a total waste in his own end, plus he's got some leadership skills (letting the team shave his head after a playoff win last year was priceless). Voroshnin is a major disappointment for me in that I thought his production would improve but there is still hope that he'll come around. Any pick that late that develops is well worth it if they can get anything from them at the pro level.

Cizek... that kid is the real disappointment for me. He had a lot of the Czech league folks from here singing his praises two years ago and he was a quietly effective guy couple of games I saw him in last year. I like quietly effective defensemen---when you don't notice them or their checking assignment, it's that Hajt sort of quality that I can live with on a 5th-7th defenseman. His decision to stay home, which has happened to other impressionable guys who're told they have no chance to be on the WJC U-20 team unless they stay home, is even worse in light of the Storm's surge to the top of their division. For as powerful a lineup as the Knights boast, Geulph has put it together even without Brown to be just as good (or after tonight's OT win in Erie--Paille with 2 including the GWG---ahead of London for now).

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Aslund is over 100 PIM now.....he had a game(s) within the last 3 weeks where his PIM really jumped.
I had some trouble finding a easy link for Aslund, but I was going off this one: stats.swehockey.se/PIM's

Full stats for his team here: Link

For those interested, he's listed as a lefthander playing the right side....


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Same site with a more up-to-date stat line.

http://stats.swehockey.se/history/pl...sSerieId=90001

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Same site with a more up-to-date stat line.

http://stats.swehockey.se/history/pl...sSerieId=90001
Groovy. Thanks!

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I even found Jan Hejda.....he's Hejdaing out in Russia.



http://www.cska-hockey.ru/?scores

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Since you can predict the future, what are the numbers going to be for tomorrow night's Mega Millions drawing?

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Apparently I hit my head far harder than I thought on Saturday. That should be "qualified for the Bean Pot Final tonight".

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Apparently I hit my head far harder than I thought on Saturday. That should be "qualified for the Bean Pot Final tonight".
Dude, they qualified for the Beanpot final last Monday night.

Have you been breaking out with the Jameson's again?

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Dude, they qualified for the Beanpot final last Monday night.

Have you been breaking out with the Jameson's again?
Actually, per the physician I saw tonight, I have at least a mild concussion if not worse. He advised that if within a couple of days I don't see improvement, that I should consult a neurologist.

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I was able to catch the 3rd period and OT of the Beanpot final, which was won by BC 2-1...

Every time I see John Adams play I like him more and more. I seriously think he will be at least a 7th defenseman in the NHL. To compare him to someone we know, I'd like to say he's similiar to Rhett Warrener, but maybe a bit less physical and a little more offensive flair. Adams is very good in his own end, and seemed to make the smart play every time.

I didn't notice Thomas Morrow until the last few minutes of regulation. Morrow was almost invisible, but that might be a good thing. When I finally started watching for him on the ice, he seemed to be in control in the corners, and joined the rush when he could. Looked solid, and towered over most of BC's forwards. I'll be looking forward to seeing him play a few more times before I make an opinion.

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there doesnt seem to be a standout prospect,only a few good 1's. god we need some good defensive prospects.

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I honestly think Wideman will develop into a solid NHL player. He has a great offensive game, one of the best shots from the point that I've ever seen. Can be a bit physical in his own zone too, he consistently throws hip checks in every game he plays some of which are beauty's. Will also drop the gloves from time to time. The one major problem I see with him though is that he pinches in from the point way to much thus leading to odd man chances the other way but that's something that can be fixed. I'm not saying Wideman will develop into a number 1 d-man at the NHL level but he will become a serviceable NHL d-man in a few more years. Don't let the fact that London is a powerhouse team fool you either. 2 years ago Widmean led on OHL d-men in goals despite playing on an average team and last season he was still one of the top d-men in the league again on an average team. So no matter what the situation Wideman has been producing. Also Rochester currently has Sean McMorrow on thier roster who is one of Wideman's good friends so that should ease the professional life for him next season. Hopefully Buffalo signs him.

It wasn't Wideman who shaved his head after a playoff victory either, the team ended up shaving one of the coach's heads. Wideman just ended up doing the shaving.


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I honestly think Wideman will develop into a solid NHL player. He has a great offensive game, one of the best shots from the point that I've ever seen. Can be a bit physical in his own zone too, he consistently throws hip checks in every game he plays some of which are beauty's. Will also drop the gloves from time to time. The one major problem I see with him though is that he pinches in from the point way to much thus leading to odd man chances the other way but that's something that can be fixed. I'm not saying Wideman will develop into a number 1 d-man at the NHL level but he will become a serviceable NHL d-man in a few more years. Don't let the fact that London is a powerhouse team fool you either. 2 years ago Widmean led on OHL d-men in goals despite playing on an average team and last season he was still one of the top d-men in the league again on an average team. So no matter what the situation Wideman has been producing. Also Rochester currently has Sean McMorrow on thier roster who is one of Wideman's good friends so that should ease the professional life for him next season. Hopefully Buffalo signs him.

It wasn't Wideman who shaved his head after a playoff victory either, the team ended up shaving one of the coach's heads. Wideman justs ended up doing the shaving.
Hmmmm.... The Knights do what it takes, even at the cost of a haircut

I recall at least one other article about it too.

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Hmmmm.... The Knights do what it takes, even at the cost of a haircut

I recall at least one other article about it too.

Weird, I know they shaved Lindsay Hoffard's (ass't coach at the time) head when they upset Plymouth two years ago but didn't hear anything about it last season. Oh well color me suprised.

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Adams and Morrow were both rated high by CSB then they were drafted at. I'd like to see Morrow after he's had 4 years with a solid athletic department. If he can add some weight to that frame now not lose any quickness he could be that large defensemen we've been waiting for.

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Adams and Morrow were both rated high by CSB then they were drafted at. I'd like to see Morrow after he's had 4 years with a solid athletic department. If he can add some weight to that frame now not lose any quickness he could be that large defensemen we've been waiting for.
Morrow was 82nd among NA Skaters and Adams was 63rd. I too am more interested where they are when the graduate than where they were when CSB scouted them.

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From the latest Hockey News...
"John Adams...is one of the unsung heroes behind the Eagle's success. He has become a much better defensive defenseman, said assistant coach Ron Rolston. He's relentless in 1 on 1 situations. He's tough to shake. He's great with his stick defensively. Adams. 21. had 6 points in 26 games and was plus 12."

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From the latest Hockey News...
"John Adams...is one of the unsung heroes behind the Eagle's success. He has become a much better defensive defenseman, said assistant coach Ron Rolston. He's relentless in 1 on 1 situations. He's tough to shake. He's great with his stick defensively. Adams. 21. had 6 points in 26 games and was plus 12."
Some similar things were said about Janik too. I simply don't put much faith in the current crop producing anything beyond a 5,6,7 type and even that is a stretch for me at the NHL level.

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