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04-02-2007, 09:40 PM
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So you honestly think that the fact that he played a lot of games 10 years ago means something when discussing a players current health?
Yes, when people talk about him being "injury prone" throughout his career.

As for the ankle and knee injury affecting his play: Smyth has never looked better.

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As for the ankle and knee injury affecting his play: Smyth has never looked better.
Thats a rather frightning statement for a 31 year old guy who is allegedly going to sucker some squad into paying him something north of 5.5 mil for 5 years

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Yes, when people talk about him being "injury prone" throughout his career.

As for the ankle and knee injury affecting his play: Smyth has never looked better.
What about people that call him injury prone over the last 5 years?

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What about people that call him injury prone over the last 5 years?
Those people can't see past the end of their noses frankly. Go grab ten players off of the NHL's list of leading LW scorers and then look at their GP per year over the past 3-5 yrs. Smyth isn't out of place there.

It's pretty simple. Hockey players get hurt. Especially the ones that play quite a bit. Your average NHLer doesn't play 82 games - he probably plays 70-72 games/season which is pretty much what Smyth brings to the table.

Twits like Dan Tencer and the guys that write bios for TSN can't seem to figure that out. I have no idea why.

What's your excuse? Maybe you can answer your own question.

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I'll take him back at 5 mil or less in a heartbeat.

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I'll take him back at 5 mil or less in a heartbeat.
3 years for $15 million - he had his chance for more and blew us off - this is what he's worth without crippling the team with a 5 year contract. If he doesnt want it then ciao baby....

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What's your excuse? Maybe you can answer your own question.
I don't know, averaging 10-12 games missed a season is acceptable? 12% - 15% of the regular season games? I'd probably not want a player to play less than 75 games under the normal wear and tear of being a hockey player.

I'll pick the top 10 scorers, though some will have small sample sizes:

Ovechkin - few games missed, small sample size though
D. Sedin - His lowest games played is 75, in a year when he played 3 games in a different league
Ray Whitney - Been pretty banged up. Had some 60 game seasons recently
Andrew Brunette - I think he's missed one game in the past 5 seasons
Thomas Vanek - On his way to second straight 80+ game season, small sample size though
Vyacheslav Koslov - 38 GP, 79, 76, 82, 78. Outside of the 38 games in Buffalo, not too bad
Alex Tanguay - He's consistently missed games. Usually hovers around 70 games.
Huselius - Mid to upper 70s. Career low of 76 GP
Kovalchuk - missed games his first year, but hovers around 80 since
Semin - He bounced around in 2003-2004 so it's hard to say. Small sample size anyways.


Other notable names that aren't in the top 10:

Zetterberg - rarely plays 75 games
Blake - Lowest total is 75 games in recent years
Shanahan - A machine. This year's 70ish game season will probably be his lowest since the beginning of his career.
Gagne - Frequently beat up
Cole - Beat up
Naslund - Typically close to a full season
Erat - Usually close to full season (hard to tell the year he split in the AHL...could have been a healthy scratch. Banged up this year though
Nash - Was banged up last season. Should hit 75 this season unless he's hurt


Looking at top point men among all forwards (granted there's some inherent bias for this season, since top point men typically play more games)

Crosby - So far so good, but small sample size
Thornton - Had a 66 5 seasons ago, but hasn't been below 77 since
Lecavalier - Only played less than 70 games once, typically hits his 80
St. Louis - One season in his time in Tampa (since 2000-2001) where he didn't flirt with 80 games
Heatley - Ferrari accident not withstanding, been pretty consistent.
Hossa - No issues
Briere - Only one season with injury issues
Jagr - Has been banged up recently. Tends to boom or bust....either play most of season, or miss huge chunks of season
Selanne - Consistently 80 games, though he had that season in Colorado where he was not playing huge minutes IIRC.
Joe Sakic - One season in the 21st Century where he didn't get close to 80 GP
Marc Savard - Until the past two seasons, seemed to be made of glass


Just looking around some other random names from that top list (i.e. no longer in order)

Brian Rolston - I...AM...IRONMAN
Iginla - This season is his worst GP in a loooong time. Frequently close to 80 GP
Alfredsson - Usually right around mid 70s in recent years.
Patrick Marleau - Unless he misses the rest of this season, has only had one season at less than 75 GP...his first.
Sundin - Was an ironman until recent years
Brad Richards - Is about to continue his streak of never playing less than 80 games in a season for his career, with 79 GP this year.



In odd instances I went back farther than 5 years, though typically I did not.


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