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03-22-2007, 05:28 PM
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Jocelyn Thibault (1st round (10th overall) in 1993)

Maxime Ouellet (1st round (22nd overall) in 1999)

Brian Boucher (1st round (22nd overall) in 1995)

You also have a couple of guys picked early in the 2nd round like
Kevin Weekes (2nd round (41st overall) in 1993)
Jean-Marc Pelletier (2nd round (30th overall) in 1997)
Philippe Sauvé (2nd round (38th overall) in 1998)
Two of these guys became NHL regulars, while Boucher got, at least, a better career than Jimmy Waite...

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03-22-2007, 05:29 PM
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First rounders only with the exceptions of others already mentioned (Storr, Fichaud, Ouellette, Finley, Waite and Kidd)

Brent Krahn (9th overall #1 for CGY) 2000

I don't know much about Krahn... What happened to him?

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03-23-2007, 11:16 AM
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G Michel Plasse was drafted first overall by the Canadiens in '68. Since then, no other 1st overall goalies ever.He stunk, too. He played one 55 game season with Colorado, and ate NHL bench, AHL duty, and AHL bench on and off the rest of his career.
did you mean by the canadiens or by anyone because

RICK DIPIETRO first overall 2000
MARC-ANDRE FLEURY first overall 2003

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03-23-2007, 11:37 AM
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Maybe not as big as some mentioned, but, John Tanner never lived up to his expectations.

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03-23-2007, 11:45 AM
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Jason Muzzatti (21st overall #1 for CGY) 1988
If he'd performed like he did with Italy in the Olympics, he might've had something of an NHL career.

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03-23-2007, 12:04 PM
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OH yea waite...The Hawks choose to trade Hasek over Waite. Waite for somany years in the early 90's was the next elite goalie but he just flunked out and finally the hawks traded him, he came back once i think and then floated around the nhl for a few years....I wonder where he is now?
Waite is playing in Germany, this is actually his sixth year here. If I remember correctly, he even won goaltender of the year at least twice.

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03-23-2007, 05:10 PM
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how the hell is Thibault a bust? He was a starter for at least 7-8 years and played pretty good for the Hawks.

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03-24-2007, 07:53 AM
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Look, before I was just refuting based on memory, but if you're going to be stubborn about it, here are Pat's particulars:

NHL Goals-Against Average Leader: 1983-84 (Washington) (2.66)
NHL Shutouts Leader: 1983-84 (Washington) (4 shutouts)
Jennings Trophy: 1983-84 (Washington) (co-winner with Al Jensen)
NHL All-Star Second Team: 1983-84 (Washington)
Sporting News All-Star First Team: 1983-84 (Washington)
Washington Team Records: Longest unbeaten streak (13 games from Jan. 27, 1984, to Feb. 18, 1984, 12-0-1), longest winning streak (10 games from Jan. 27, 1984, to Feb. 18, 1984), longest shutout streak (203:52 from Jan. 27, 1984, to Feb. 3, 1984)

...Superstar? No. Hall of Famer? No. Bust? No friggin' way.
I am gonna be stubborn about it...I said after being a star in junior...& doing very well in the NHL early on ...& raising the bar/expectations=THE BOOM YEARS... He did nothing after 1984...when he was still ONLY about 25=THE BUST YEARS... Notably, you dont mention a single thing Riggin accomplished after 1984 ether...

In my mind, Riggin is reminiscent of how Theodore's career seems to be going...Both seemed to go BUST after stellar beginnings...

SO YES FRIGGIN WAY ! &^%!!!!

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03-24-2007, 08:07 AM
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see any goaltender aside from parent and lindberg whom was ever drafted or played for the flyers- and I am a die hard flyers fan

"Hockey is 60% goaltending unless you haven't got it, and then it's a 100% of the problem" harry neale
You consider Hextall a bust?

I'm also amazed that it took 47 posts for Pelletier's name to be mentioned.

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03-24-2007, 04:15 PM
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Brian Boucher for me. Was a 1st round pick at 22nd overall. And long before setting the all-time NHL record for perfect goaltending play (the consecutive minutes of shutout record), he was a young phenom who led Philly in the 2000 playoffs. He simply dominated down the stretch. Was outstanding aganst Pittsburgh. Played extraordinary against New Jersey until they edged out Philly in a close close series. After watching him play during that playoffs, I was almost certain that he'd become a bona fide Vezina contendor for many years to come. He, in my mind, is the biggest goaltending disappointment simply because of the flashes of brilliance he teased us with during his NHL career.

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03-24-2007, 09:54 PM
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Jim Carey was pretty bad with Boston. I don't know if that's the bust type you're looking for, though.

Trevor Kidd was supposed to like, set the world on fire with his goaltending, and... well... no.

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Blackburn, who was a bust way before his unfortunate injury IMO
That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

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03-24-2007, 11:20 PM
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If he'd performed like he did with Italy in the Olympics, he might've had something of an NHL career.
Muzzatti had a heart defect and had a couple of operations, missing a full year.

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03-25-2007, 04:12 AM
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I don't know much about Krahn... What happened to him?
I was able to watch Krahn a few years back with the Las Vegas Wranglers.

He's still in the Flames system in the AHL for Omaha. He'll be 26 in about 2 weeks.

Curtis McElhinney has surpassed him as Omaha's starter this year.

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03-25-2007, 09:40 AM
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I was able to watch Krahn a few years back with the Las Vegas Wranglers.

He's still in the Flames system in the AHL for Omaha. He'll be 26 in about 2 weeks.

Curtis McElhinney has surpassed him as Omaha's starter this year.
I guess we can call him a BIG TIME bust then.

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04-02-2007, 04:07 PM
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Did some research and came up with this:

1973: John Davidson (5th), Terry Richardson (11th),
1974: None
1975: Gordie Laxton (13th), Bob Sauve (17th)
1976: None
1977: None
1978: Al Jensen (31st)
1979: Pat Riggin (33rd), Pelle Lindbergh (35th)
1980: None
1981: Grant Fuhr (8th)
1982:
1983: Tom Barrasso (5th)
1984: Craig Billington (23rd),
1985: Sean Burke (24th), Troy Gamble (25th), Kay Whitmore (26th), Mike Richter (28th)
1986: None
1987: Jimmy Waite (8th), Rick Tabaracci (26th), Jeff Hackett (34th)
1988: Jason Muzzatti (21st), Stephane Fiset (24th)
1989: Olaf Kolzig (19th), Byron Dafoe (35th),
1990: Trevor Kidd (11th), Martin Brodeur (20th), Felix Potvin (31st)
1991: Andrew Verner (34th)
1992: Jim Carey (32nd)
1993: Jocelyn Thibault (10th), Tyler Moss (29th), Scott Langkow (31st), Kevin Weekes (44th)
1994: Jamie Storr (7th), Eric Fichaud (16th), Evgeni Ryabchikov (21st), Dan Cloutier (26th), Jose Theodore (44th)
1995: J-S Giguere (13th), Martin Biron (16th), Brian Boucher (22nd), Marc Denis (25th), Aaron MacDonald (36th)
1996: Craig Hillier (23rd), Matt Garon (44th)
1997: Roberto Luongo (4th), Mika Noronen (21st), J-F Damphousse (24th), Jean-Marc Pelletier (30th), Evan Lindsay (32nd)
1998: Patrick DesRochers (14th), Matt Chouinard (15th), Philippe Sauve (38th)
1999: Brian Finley (6th), Maxime Oulette (22nd), Ari Ahonen (27th), Alex Auld (40th)
2000: Rick DiPietro (1st), Brent Krahn (9th), Ilja Bryzgalov (44th), Matt Chouinard (45th)
2001: Pascal Leclaire (8th), Dan Blackburn (10th), Jason Bacashihua (26th), Adam Munro (29th)
2002: Kari Lehtonen (2nd), Cam Ward (25th), Hannu Toivonen (29th), Jeff Deslauriers (31st), Tobias Stephan (34th)
2003: M-A Fleury (1st)
2004: Al Montoya (6th), Devan Dubnyk (14th), Marek Shwarz (17th), Cory Schneider (26th), David Shantz (37th)
2005: Carey Price (5th), Tuuka Rask (21st), Tyler Plante (32nd), Jeff Frazee (38th)
2006: Jonathan Bernier (11th), Riku Helenius (15th), Semen Varlamov (23rd), Leland Irving (26th), Michal Neuvirth (34th)

List of goalies picked in the top 40 or so since 1973. Couldn't find anything for 1982 but other than that, you can see that a large portion of 1st round goalies don't have much success.

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04-03-2007, 01:10 PM
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Wasn't Dan Cloutier highly touted when he was in the NYR system?

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For this Bruins fan, two that come to mind are Evgeny Ryabchikov, an infamous first-round bust from the '94 draft, and Blaine Lacher, who was great during the first lockout and then fizzled just as fast. Media and fans here invariably refer to Blaine as "Let 'Em In" Lacher.

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wow um there is no "WAY BEFORE THE INJURY" with blackburn. the kid was in the nhl at 18 got hurt before he turned 20. what were you doing when you were 18 drinking behind the bleachers at your highschool? the kid was unreal at that age just unreal and if he didn't get hurt he'd be one of the top 5 goalies in the game today not a doubt in my mind. really feel for dan blackburn great young player.

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