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04-03-2007, 02:29 PM
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Lamoriello's move to fire; should oilers follow suit?

too bad lowe doesn't have the balls to fire MacT during this past season.......

lou lamoriello should get props over this move.....

we know the players have quit on MacT.....why couldn't lowe do the same move lou did?

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04-03-2007, 02:34 PM
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I know this is another fluff fire Mac T thread BUT...

If you're Kevin Lowe and you failed your coach by giving him all of 2 proven veterans on the blue line, how on earth could you then blame the coach and fire him?

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Is it MacT s fault the Oilers have no true number ine Dman?

If they would have had that and not gone through the insane injuries. The Oilers may be in a playoff spot.

You can dislike MacT and some things he does but I would not blame him for not making the playoffs this year.

Players underperforming, lack of good dmen or blaming Lowe are more to blame

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This season had unusual circumstances. Wait it out. Next season if MacT doesn't gear this team up and get some wins out of them, then I say he's gone for sure. The question is how long do you give him?

I say ~30 games give or take a few. I'm assuming we will have a better team and will be well rested coming into the season, unlike this year.

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What!? You want us to fire MacTavish now...when we're #2 in the East and about to make the playoffs! Preposterous!

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So many things, so many things.....

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too bad lowe doesn't have the balls to fire MacT during this past season.......
This presumes that MacT should've been fired, but that's a big presumption. Not even Scotty Bowman would win many games with 12 regulars injured.

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lou lamoriello should get props over this move.....
Flippant Answer: No, he shouldn't.
Somewhat More Reasoned Answer: It's too early to tell.

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we know the players have quit on MacT.....why couldn't lowe do the same move lou did?
As long as you have personal access to the Oilers dressing room, would you mind getting me Hemsky's autograph?

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yes.. i do want him to befired.. but its mostly because im a macT hater

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If they're going to let someone go it shouldn't be the coach.

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If they're going to let someone go it shouldn't be the coach.
Something you discussed recently LT... knowing your coach and building a roster around him.

Shouldn't we be trying to build a roster of Horcoffs, Stolls, Pisanis, etc given how effectively Mac T used them in a very successful run to the playoffs?

Four lines of depth with 2-way talent would seemingly be the way to go if you're going to have a Mac T team.

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Something you discussed recently LT... knowing your coach and building a roster around him.

Shouldn't we be trying to build a roster of Horcoffs, Stolls, Pisanis, etc given how effectively Mac T used them in a very successful run to the playoffs?

Four lines of depth with 2-way talent would seemingly be the way to go if you're going to have a Mac T team.

Yep--and don't forget the 6-tough blue line, another MacT "desirable."

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Yep--and don't forget the 6-tough blue line, another MacT "desirable."
I don't think it's necessarily a bad direction to go. Fast, talented guys who can play at both ends of the rink and are willing to do the little things to win. You have 4 lines of guys like that with one or two Hemsky types and that can be a winner.

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yes he should be fired because i do not like his coaching methods...

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I don't think it's necessarily a bad direction to go. Fast, talented guys who can play at both ends of the rink and are willing to do the little things to win. You have 4 lines of guys like that with one or two Hemsky types and that can be a winner.
Oh, absolutely...I was agreeing with you Just wanted to add on that MacT's "dream team" has the gritty D as well as the 2-way four lines

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I am absolutely in favour of the Oilers following Lou Lamoriello's move and not signing paycheques for Claude Julien either. Or Robbie Ftorek or Larry Robinson, for that matter. Good post.

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Something you discussed recently LT... knowing your coach and building a roster around him.

Shouldn't we be trying to build a roster of Horcoffs, Stolls, Pisanis, etc given how effectively Mac T used them in a very successful run to the playoffs?

Four lines of depth with 2-way talent would seemingly be the way to go if you're going to have a Mac T team.
These have been the 1st round picks the Oilers have amassed since MacTavish was hired as head coach:

Mikhnov
Hemsky
Niinimaki
Pouliot
Dubnyk
Schremp
Cogliano

How many of those kids would've been 1st rounders if MacT was GM and Lowe was the head coach?

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These have been the 1st round picks the Oilers have amassed since MacTavish was hired as head coach:

Mikhnov
Hemsky
Niinimaki
Pouliot
Dubnyk
Schremp
Cogliano

How many of those kids would've been 1st rounders if MacT was GM and Lowe was the head coach?
You forgot to mention Pronger, Lupul, Smid, Nilsson and O'Marra, no?

I'd say that Lupul and Nilsson would be no where near this organization, and that certainly wouldn't be a bad thing.

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04-03-2007, 05:22 PM
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Fire KLowe Not MacT

Look at the talent in this organization and compare it to the other teams in the league, how is it MacT's fault that Peter Sykora at $2.9 million per season is your top point getter. Zach S. is 3rd on the depth chart on right wing, Winchester is 3rd on the depth chart on left wing, and Pouliot is your number 2 centre.

Remember this is the guy who traded his 1st round pick in 2003 so that he didn't have to take Parise? What genius, who whould have wanted those 30+goals a season!

The fact that Toby Petersen, JF Jacques, Thorensen and Syvret are even playing on this team speaks volumes as to Kevin Lowe's abilities.

Give me a break and fire K Lowe!

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You forgot to mention Pronger, Lupul, Smid, Nilsson and O'Marra, no?

I'd say that Lupul and Nilsson would be no where near this organization, and that certainly wouldn't be a bad thing.
I was obviously going strictly by draft picks, but you're right...if we're talking straight acquisitions, then trades have to factor in as well.

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I think the reason that MacT won't be fired anytime soon is pretty simple... he has three years remaining on his contract. Petr Nedved notwithstanding, I don't think this organization is really big on throwing money away.

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