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07-03-2014, 10:20 AM
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You do understand that they are trading contracts and not just players, correct? The Jets aren't looking to simply dump salary here. A $5 million dollar + player would not be exiting our roster without taking back at least some additional nearby contractual value aside from Barkov's entry level deal alone.

I know that Florida is looking to add salary this season, but the Jets need to get some contracts back in return as well. If they were to do what you guys have proposed, they'd need to have done it prior to July 1 so they could have bought some quality replacements when they were available.
I don't understand the point of your first paragraph. We won't be below the cap floor so why do the contracts matter?

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07-03-2014, 10:26 AM
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So I guess some Jets fans wouldn't do Barkov or Huberdeau + 2015-th 1-st for Evander Kane? That is just beyond bad. Sorry hockey fans, so sorry.....

If the offer stands can I sign on it now?

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07-03-2014, 10:29 AM
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I don't understand the point of your first paragraph. We won't be below the cap floor so why do the contracts matter?
My point was that if you are going to essentially dump Kane's salary as you suggested, today, after July 1, then you'd leave us with a ton of free cap space but during a period when it is too late to efficiently spend it. The players we'd want to spend some of that free cash on have already been signed elsewhere, and if that is the option then I'd rather have Kane versus going with an 19 y/o replacement that is a few years away from matching his output and a future pick that may take years to pan out.

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07-03-2014, 10:31 AM
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Barkov is more untouchable than Kane. Florida isn't trading him no matter what we think.

Can't see how Jets wouldn't be interested in Huberdeau. Sophomore slumps aren't that uncommon. He's a talented player in his own right.

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07-03-2014, 10:52 AM
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My point was that if you are going to essentially dump Kane's salary as you suggested, today, after July 1, then you'd leave us with a ton of free cap space but during a period when it is too late to efficiently spend it. The players we'd want to spend some of that free cash on have already been signed elsewhere, and if that is the option then I'd rather have Kane versus going with an 19 y/o replacement that is a few years away from matching his output and a future pick that may take years to pan out.
But I'm not suggesting that the trade is to dump Kane's salary. I just think that this hypothetical is favorable to the Jets and would do it since I think it makes our team better in the future.

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07-03-2014, 10:57 AM
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I think a few things could work for Kane:

1. for

Howden
Robak
2015 1st

2. for

Bjugstad
Howden

3. for

Kulikov
Howden
2015 2nd

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07-03-2014, 11:10 AM
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I think a few things could work for Kane:

1. for

Howden
Robak
2015 1st

2. for

Bjugstad
Howden

3. for

Kulikov
Howden
2015 2nd

I think a lot of Cats fan would do #3

I'd rather Shore, Howden, Robak and a 2nd but that's just me

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07-03-2014, 11:18 AM
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I think a few things could work for Kane:

1. for

Howden
Robak
2015 1st

2. for

Bjugstad
Howden

3. for

Kulikov
Howden
2015 2nd
1 and 3, sure.

#2 nope

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07-03-2014, 11:26 AM
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1 and 3, sure.

#2 nope
I definitely wouldn't do #1 cause that 2015 1st is too valuable. I would do #3 if Kuli is taken out and Robak is put in.

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07-03-2014, 11:30 AM
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What else do we have to give you, the Empire State?

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07-03-2014, 11:32 AM
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It's not that they're funny, that's their way of crying like the little kids that they are... As for me, they may have Kane play soccer intead. If they give me Kane for free... I'd even think about it, he's nothing, he's a cipher...


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07-03-2014, 11:35 AM
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NO WAY Im trading Barkov straight up for Kane, let alone adding our 1st next year, Robak, and Howden as well

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07-03-2014, 12:00 PM
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Barkov coming out of his rookie year simply does not have the demonstrated history of NHL success versus Kane. He has upside for sure, but not enough to swap for a guy that has scored 30 once and scored at an equivalent pace during the lockout year as well - at just 22 years of age. The pick is a question mark, so no, it isn't enough.
Sorry, you are undervaluing Barkov here. The OP deal is bad for WPG, but Barkov+1st? There is only 1 guy on EDM I would not make that deal for, and he is better than Kane.

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