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07-09-2014, 10:31 AM
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Aug 15 and an end to this thread cant come soon enough.

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07-12-2014, 02:24 AM
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Hayes won't attend Hawks prospect camp

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/blac...-prospect-camp
The article says Hayes attended the last 4 camps. I don't think he's allowed to attend another camp given the new CBA

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07-12-2014, 08:31 AM
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The article says Hayes attended the last 4 camps. I don't think he's allowed to attend another camp given the new CBA
Did Johns or Mattson miss a camp? I think they're both there this year. Both 2010 goalies are there too I believe.

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07-12-2014, 08:39 AM
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This is a silly, farfetched question, but here goes. When Hayes doesn't sign by Aug. 15th, he becomes a ufa and the Hawks get the 54th pick in next year's draft. What happens to that pick if he signs with the Hawks on Aug. 16th or later as an ufa?

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07-13-2014, 04:31 AM
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This is a silly, farfetched question, but here goes. When Hayes doesn't sign by Aug. 15th, he becomes a ufa and the Hawks get the 54th pick in next year's draft. What happens to that pick if he signs with the Hawks on Aug. 16th or later as an ufa?
I am not sure, but it could be that the Hawks get the 2nd round pick only if Hayes signs with another club. The August deadline is only about when he becomes an UFA.

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07-13-2014, 07:39 AM
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This is a silly, farfetched question, but here goes. When Hayes doesn't sign by Aug. 15th, he becomes a ufa and the Hawks get the 54th pick in next year's draft. What happens to that pick if he signs with the Hawks on Aug. 16th or later as an ufa?
Chicago doesn't get the pick if he signs with Chicago after the Aug 15 date.

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07-13-2014, 06:19 PM
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Aug 15 and an end to this thread cant come soon enough.
49 pages and counting between this thread and the identically titled thread on the main board.

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07-16-2014, 09:47 PM
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Hard core trolling

Kevin Hayes ‏@KevinPHayes12 5m
I think the play of the year should go to @johngaudreau03 vs @stjohns28 in playoffs. #dangy #johnnyhockey #endtoend

if it was this one it wasn't even Johns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKNp-CokGwc

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@KevinPHayes12 @johngaudreau03 or what about breakthrough performance? @NDHockey making it to the Garden? #chiiiiirps


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07-16-2014, 10:00 PM
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Just seems like they are tweeting stuff. Nothing troll wise.

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07-16-2014, 10:02 PM
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That's trolling / chirping.

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07-17-2014, 08:29 AM
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I'd like to see Johns chirp Hayes about him jerking the Hawks around on not signing.

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07-17-2014, 08:30 AM
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07-17-2014, 09:06 AM
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I'd like to see Johns completely lay out Hayes when they eventually meet in the NHL.

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07-17-2014, 10:48 AM
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Chicago doesn't get the pick if he signs with Chicago after the Aug 15 date.
Can anyone confirm this? That doesn't sound right to me.

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07-17-2014, 10:49 AM
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Hard core trolling

Kevin Hayes ‏@KevinPHayes12 5m
I think the play of the year should go to @johngaudreau03 vs @stjohns28 in playoffs. #dangy #johnnyhockey #endtoend

if it was this one it wasn't even Johns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKNp-CokGwc

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@KevinPHayes12 @johngaudreau03 or what about breakthrough performance? @NDHockey making it to the Garden? #chiiiiirps
These guys are probably friends joking around and poking fun.

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07-17-2014, 01:34 PM
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These guys are probably friends joking around and poking fun.
Yeah I would guess so. They went to 3 or 4 prospect camps together.

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07-17-2014, 02:58 PM
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Can anyone confirm this? That doesn't sound right to me.
The CBA provides you get the pick if you lose your rights to an unsigned 1st round draft pick because he becomes a UFA. If he were to sign with the Blackhawks after August 15, it can't be said they lost their rights to him or that he was unsigned.

Why would the Blackhawks get a compensatory pick for a player they ended up signing? There would be nothing to compensate them for.

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07-17-2014, 04:12 PM
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The CBA provides you get the pick if you lose your rights to an unsigned 1st round draft pick because he becomes a UFA. If he were to sign with the Blackhawks after August 15, it can't be said they lost their rights to him or that he was unsigned.

Why would the Blackhawks get a compensatory pick for a player they ended up signing? There would be nothing to compensate them for.
I read that all wrong. For some reason I was thinking the Hawks would only get compensation if Hayes signs with another team on the 15th and no later. So if he signs with another team on the 16th, the Hawks lost that window of opportunity to be compensated.


Don't ask... just, don't. I won't have an answer.

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07-19-2014, 04:42 PM
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Saw that Stan basically said that their offer is on the table and it is up to them.

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When can this ****** officially be done with the Hawks?

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07-20-2014, 03:14 PM
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When Hayes camp simply says they are going UFA or August 15th arrives

Hawks have made him offers ,, Kid refused to sign and skipped out on camp (If he would have intended to sign he would have already and been at prospect camp to try and impress coaches/etc)

Clear enough that he is out of here

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07-20-2014, 10:13 PM
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Kyle Beach v2

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07-21-2014, 07:33 AM
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Kyle Beach v2
This. Overvalued big time.

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I'm not seeing the Beach comparison, but I do agree he is probably overrated at this point.

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07-21-2014, 02:03 PM
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Kevin Hayes can play hockey and will be in NHL soon enough

I don't understand the Kyle Beach comparable

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