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OT: The Great Upstate/Downstate NY Argument

Ok...I figure I'll take this to you downstaters:

Where does Upstate begin? Does Buffalo count as upstate? What is the Albany area?

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Ok...I figure I'll take this to you downstaters:

Where does Upstate begin? Does Buffalo count as upstate? What is the Albany area?
They're both upstate.

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Ok...I figure I'll take this to you downstaters:

Where does Upstate begin? Does Buffalo count as upstate? What is the Albany area?
Anything in the Catskills and above is "upstate". Hudson Valley area is not.

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Anything in the Catskills and above is "upstate". Hudson Valley area is not.
So Albany is not?

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Ok...I figure I'll take this to you downstaters:

Where does Upstate begin? Does Buffalo count as upstate? What is the Albany area?
Buffalo is Upstate Western , NY.

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So Albany is not?
To me, Albany is borderline. But yeah, I'd say it's upstate.

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To me, Albany is borderline. But yeah, I'd say it's upstate.
aite, cause we've been goin on that anything above westchester county is upstate, buffalo/rochester is western NY, Plattsburgh/Massena are the Adirondacks, Binghampton/Ithaca are central NY, Syracuse/Utica/Albany are upstate in general.

It's really confusing because you can say "upstate" and mean anything above westchester or a certain area.

the other thing is are buffalo and albany the cities part of upstate, or are they their own area?

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Stupid Binghamton gives it to Buffalo even though it's just as close to NYC. Effing Sabres, I'll have to watch the playoffs on grainy SopCast, wooo!

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Ok...I figure I'll take this to you downstaters:

Where does Upstate begin? Does Buffalo count as upstate??
Sure...anything past the Roscoe Diner

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aite, cause we've been goin on that anything above westchester county is upstate, buffalo/rochester is western NY, Plattsburgh/Massena are the Adirondacks, Binghampton/Ithaca are central NY, Syracuse/Utica/Albany are upstate in general.

It's really confusing because you can say "upstate" and mean anything above westchester or a certain area.

the other thing is are buffalo and albany the cities part of upstate, or are they their own area?
They are "upstate" but the environment in the cities are different than the surrounding area where they are, obviously. But they are "upstate" in terms of geography...

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Buffalo= Canada.

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If you live north of Westchester county you are upstate


Seriously though...yes Buffalo is upstate.

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If people who live in your town commute to NYC (including the Bronx) for work or you generally live on LI or in the city, then you are downstate. Everything else is upstate.

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Buffalo= Canada.
Heh. I work 5 minutes away from walking distance to Canada.

Upstate is a very general term. In reality the Western NY bit is correct too.

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Heh. I work 5 minutes away from walking distance to Canada.

Upstate is a very general term. In reality the Western NY bit is correct too.
If you live in NYC, That is referred to upstate NY. No one ever really says western NY other then meteorologists.

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Everything north of the Bronx. My dad lives in Mt. Vernon and I joke with him that "I'm going up to the country" when I visit him

I have to admit since I've lived in Brooklyn my whole life, I think of anything north of about Poughkeepsie as upstate although I don't think that is very accurate. I would say that either the Catskills or Albany would probably be a better way to see it.

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If I was to be an obnoxious New Yorker, I'd say Yonkers is the start of upstate. Nevertheless, I do honestly consider Poughkeepsie as being the start of upstate though I know a lot of people who live up there who would cringe at that thought.

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It's all a matter of perspective. I grew up on Long Island and we thought of everything north of Westchester as upstate. I went to school at Syracuse and the media in the market referred to the area as "Central New York". You figure it out.

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Sure...anything past the Roscoe Diner
And I couldn't let a Roscoe Diner reference go without proffs. When commuting between Syracuse and Sayville, the Roscoe Diner was the unofficial half way point on our to/from school trips. Had many a burger and shake there. Also hit a deer one night just past the Roscoe exit.

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It's all a matter of perspective. I grew up on Long Island and we thought of everything north of Westchester as upstate. I went to school at Syracuse and the media in the market referred to the area as "Central New York". You figure it out.



And I couldn't let a Roscoe Diner reference go without proffs. When commuting between Syracuse and Sayville, the Roscoe Diner was the unofficial half way point on our to/from school trips. Had many a burger and shake there. Also hit a deer one night just past the Roscoe exit.
There are three milestones on the trip from home to Geneseo.
Roscoe Diner (1/4 point)
Binghamton (halfway)
Elmira (3/4) - played juniors up there.

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being from westchester, I've always considered everything north of me to be upstate. But there is clearly some bias there.

However, the rational is that: a signifigant amount of induviduals living in westchester earn their living in the city. Thus, the economy of Westchester county is directly tied to NYC, and I consider it to be part of the greater NYC metro area.

I do know alot of city dwellers that consider everything north of the Bronx to be upstate, and I can't really blame them.

Albany is unquestionably upstate, as is the city thatr I currently live in: Ithaca. The question in regrards to buffallo is whether it should be considered upstate or part or Ontario.


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If I was to be an obnoxious New Yorker, I'd say Yonkers is the start of upstate.
As an obnoxious New Yorker, this works for me.

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The Bronx is upstate to me! Yea, Albany is upstate! Buffallo is like as far as u can go with out Visting Santa Claus!

I drove up to Montreal not too long ago and thats closer than Buffallo. Gotta love the great state of NY.

FYI: Montreal is a happening, Godless. with out Morales town. I LOVED IT!

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Anything north of the bronx is upstate.

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Anything north of the bronx is upstate.
Yeah, seriously

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I live/grew up on Long Island, I work in Newburgh, so I know a little on the subject. Newburgh (Orange County) is definately Upstate! They have so little in common with downstate. Even though similar distance to city, they consider coming to Manhattan like a trip to Oz.

As far as Buffalo goes, I think the question is a trick, the answer is neither, Buffalo is considered to be part of Cananda! If you think Buffalo could even remotely be considered "Downstate" we are on different planets.

I think "Downstate" refers more to being in NYC sphere of influence than geography. It doesn't mean 50% south and 50% north.

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