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04-09-2007, 07:44 PM
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A right-handed, under-30, 2nd pairing, puck-moving D-man like Rachunek would fetch a second round pick in this draft.
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04-09-2007, 07:50 PM
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I don't think that he signed up because he's going to be the 7th D next year.

'Course, now that he's under contract I guess we're free to use him that way. I will be VERY curious to see how our D corps shakes out in the offseason.

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04-09-2007, 08:09 PM
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i like this move

rozsival-malik
tyutin-girardi
mara-rachunek

pock 7man
plus staal to compete for a job in training camp
Pock is not signing to be a 7th defenseman. What that signals to me is that he is a much cheaper option than Rachunek, and probably the better one. If Pock is signed, that means that Rachunek is not back. And Staal and Baranka will be beginning the year in Hartford.

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04-09-2007, 08:11 PM
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Pock is not signing to be a 7th defenseman. What that signals to me is that he is a much cheaper option than Rachunek, and probably the better one. If Pock is signed, that means that Rachunek is not back. And Staal and Baranka will be beginning the year in Hartford.
and lampman or lifton as the 7th d men....i agree

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04-09-2007, 08:13 PM
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Pock is not signing to be a 7th defenseman. What that signals to me is that he is a much cheaper option than Rachunek, and probably the better one. If Pock is signed, that means that Rachunek is not back. And Staal and Baranka will be beginning the year in Hartford.
there is no top 6 defenseman clause in his contract, I'll guarantee you

he'll come into camp with an opportunity to win a spot again, but my money is on him being the 7th d-man.

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04-09-2007, 08:40 PM
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agreed

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04-09-2007, 08:45 PM
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word, i like Pock, good jorb Thomas..

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04-09-2007, 08:48 PM
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I like Pock, he has a nice offensive side, with time his D game will get better.

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04-09-2007, 09:06 PM
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Pock is not signing to be a 7th defenseman. What that signals to me is that he is a much cheaper option than Rachunek, and probably the better one. If Pock is signed, that means that Rachunek is not back. And Staal and Baranka will be beginning the year in Hartford.
all this means that if pock plays well enough in camp they can trade malik or rachunek for something of value, we currebtly have some depth with pock as a 7 man and then staal being ready to jump into the nhl

the resigning of pock doesn't ensure him a spot in the top 6

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04-09-2007, 09:26 PM
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the bottom line is once again the rangers are giving themselves plenty of flexibility with this signing. keep pock in the rotation, keep him as an extra, trade rachunek, trade malik, ever so slight option of trading rozsival, etc...

apparently pock isn't all that frustrated with his "development" by renney and co.

and "satheroney" just seems to be getting better and better...who would have thought that 3 or 4 years ago?

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04-09-2007, 09:44 PM
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1. i dont see this team ever gettin rid of malik.

2. rachunek looks to be the odd man out.

3. they might keep staal an extra year in the minors.

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04-10-2007, 05:37 AM
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malik is what, a +2142141215215 for his career? do you think HE is a good defenseman?
No I don't think he's a great defenceman.

top 4 defenceman in the NHL? I would say yes, but Malik should never be confused with being a legit #1 or even a legit #2 defenceman in the NHL.

The fact is that McCabe is more physical, twice the player Malik is offensively and is better defensively.

I'd love to see McCabes numbers on this Rangers team. The Rangers as a team play a better brand of defence than Toronto does which lends itself to the monstrous +/- stat that Malik has. If McCabe were in Marek's skates I think that he's have very similar +/- numbers in addition to the 50+ points and the physical play.

I'd take McCabe over any defenceman we have right now.

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04-10-2007, 06:19 AM
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Oh please.If the Rangers had given McCabe 5 years/$28.75 million with a no movement clause,there would have 100 threads this season discussing how much of an ******* Glen Sather is for giving that type of contract.How the Rangers are overpaying by about $1.5 million per and $7.5 million in total.How Sather has destroyed the Rangers cap situation.One of the biggest culprits for the Leafs missing the playoffs is #24 with his indifferent play.Watch the games

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04-10-2007, 06:30 AM
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The Pock deal is a very good deal for the Rangers.This is a done deal.The Rangers haven't gotten around to announcing it yet

A $667,500 cap # is a good deal

Fedor Tyutin-$987,500
Michal Roszival-$2,100,000
Paul Mara-$3,000,000
Marek Malik-$2,500,000
Thomas Pock-$667,500
Dan Girardi-$750,000
Karel Rachunek-Group II/$1.8 million QO

Ivan Baranka-$521,667
David Liffiton-Group II
Bryce Lampman-Group II
Hannu Pikkarainen-$550,000
Jake Taylor-Group II
Martin Richter-Group III
Craig Weller-Group 6

Darius Kasparaitis-$2,989,333

Corey Potter-AHL
Marvin Degon-AHL

Dylan Reese-ATO

Marc Staal
Michael Sauer

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04-10-2007, 06:36 AM
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and lampman or lifton as the 7th d men....i agree
I'd bet on the team re-signing Strudwick to be our 7th again.

Which certainly would have to mean Rachunek isn't coming back. Maybe he'll get resigned but someone is being moved this summer.

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04-10-2007, 07:17 AM
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The wild card with all of this is the way that Staal has bee playing since the holidays and especially in the playoffs. Apparently he has been by far the best player on the ice in every game he's played and has been single-handedly winning games with both his defense and his offense. He has truly been a monster.

The Rangers' brass is I believe on record somewhere saying it was already a mistake to send him back after last year's camp. He may already be a top pairing D-man and, if that's the case, the Rangers would not be playing their best roster if they put him in HFD. So assuming he really has progressed this far (knockin on wood as I type this) and assuming that Renney/Sather/Maloney are going to ice the best team they can next year, what does this do to the pairings...?

Rozsival-Malik****************Rozsival-Staal****************Rozsival-Staal
Tyutin-Staal*****************Tyutin-Rachunek**************Tyutin-Pock
Mara-Girardi*****************Mara-Girardi******************Mara-Girardi

Pock***********************Pock******************* ****Liffiton/Lampman

Scenario I assumes Rachunek is let go and Pock loses out in camp.

Scenario II assumes Malik is traded and Pock loses out in camp.

Scenario III assumes both go elsewhere (potentially because Pock does NOT lose out in camp).


And all of those scenarios don't take into account the possibility of guys like Baranka, Sauer and Sanguinetti (or less heralded guys like Liffiton/Degon) having blow-away camps or the very tempting UFAs like Souray out there.

Good problems to have.

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04-10-2007, 07:48 AM
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By the way, its no longer UN-Offical

http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/

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John Dellapina is reporting on his blog that the Rangers have locked up Thomas Pock for a two-year deal worth $1.33 million [
Kudos to whoever it was that said 1.2 for 2 years.... damn close....

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04-10-2007, 08:12 AM
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Never a bad thing to lock up a young D man, who has shown he can get better and has an offensive side, for under 700k per. No spot is ever a given, (see Ozo, Kasper, even Ward, ect.). It just makes things more interesting come summer.

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Oh please.If the Rangers had given McCabe 5 years/$28.75 million with a no movement clause,there would have 100 threads this season discussing how much of an ******* Glen Sather is for giving that type of contract.How the Rangers are overpaying by about $1.5 million per and $7.5 million in total.How Sather has destroyed the Rangers cap situation.One of the biggest culprits for the Leafs missing the playoffs is #24 with his indifferent play.Watch the games
GS doesn't give out NTC's so that's not an option.

I do watch the games and hope and wish dearly for a defenceman like McCabe.

I'm tired of the non-dynamic duo of Rozy and Malik

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GS doesn't give out NTC's so that's not an option.

I do watch the games and hope and wish dearly for a defenceman like McCabe.

I'm tired of the non-dynamic duo of Rozy and Malik
From his contract to his play...what is wrong with Rozsival?

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04-10-2007, 08:36 AM
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From his contract to his play...what is wrong with Rozsival?
Agreed.... he has been fine IMO... only wish he would shoot more on the PP...

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Agreed.... he has been fine IMO... only wish he would shoot more on the PP...
I think if the Rangers reduced Rozsival power play minutes he would be a much BETTER defenseman...along with the fact he would get a little less playing time the fans would have less to complain about...

he isn't a good point man on the power play...the rangers have in my opinion 2 better options in Cullen and Mara for the first unit...

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Agree on him being bad at the point... At least sometimes anyway. He makes poor decisions a lot of the time with just absolutely forcing the puck to Jagr, but other times he makes good deecisions when to move in and can see the ice fairly well.

But Rozy has been a very good defenseman this year. Was a very good pickup by Sather and company.

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The one thing I like that Rozsival has been doing lately on the PP is that he's been looking for the backdoor play a lot more. A couple of times it has worked, and also has just missed a few more.

Still defers to Jagr too much on the PP, but I like to see that movement on the PP.

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he isn't a good point man on the power play...the rangers have in my opinion 2 better options in Cullen and Mara for the first unit...
Like Levitate said, he looks for tha back door play a lot and moves around well which is what I like about him on the PP... not shooting and passing to Jagr everytime is what I dont like....

Not the best person to have back there and I agree that Cullen and Mara would be better suited point men on the PP....

And they are on the second unit sometimes, which IMO has looked a thousand times better then the first unit..

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