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07-30-2014, 05:43 PM
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Records that will be broken in your lifetime

Which NHL records (if they are minor) do you think are breakable in your lifetime?

I think some consistent goalie will eventually break Brodeur's wins record.

I won't go as far as saying I think someone will do it, but I do think Reggie Leach & Jari Kurri's single playoff goals record (19) is not so unbreakable.

Sakic's OT playoff goals (8).

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If Lundqvist played 9 more years identical to his first 9, that would bring him to 618 at age 40. 2 more seasons of 35 wins would tie him with Marty. It's possible.

I could see Bouwmeester or Cogliano taking a run at Jarvis' record. Jay-Bo only needs less than 3 more full seasons to pass him.

I believe Ovechkin WILL break the record for most career shots. He is at 3,435 and Ray Bourque is at 6,206. At this pace he will set it at age 36.


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07-31-2014, 03:56 AM
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I believe Ovechkin WILL break the record for most career shots. He is at 3,435 and Ray Bourque is at 6,206. At this pace he will set it at age 36.
He already has the record for most seasons leading the league in shots (8). There is no reason not to think he might break it again next season.

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Ovechkin has led the league in ES goals 3 times. The current record holder is Gretzky and Hull tied with 4. Not impossible for Ovechkin to tie/take the lead there. Hard and unlikely. But not 100% impossible.

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Ovechkin has led the league in ES goals 3 times. The current record holder is Gretzky and Hull tied with 4. Not impossible for Ovechkin to tie/take the lead there. Hard and unlikely. But not 100% impossible.
Who has the record for leading in power play goals the most times?

I would suspect Maurice Richard, but hockeyreference doesn't have PP goal stats for that early.

Ovy has lead the league in power play goals three times - has anybody done it more times?

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Phil Esposito -- 5 times

Mike Bossy -- 3 times
Tim Kerr -- 3 times (in a row)
Brett Hull -- 3 times

There may be another who's done it 3 times...


Interesting factoid: Gretzky is #1 all-time NHL goals and led the NHL in goals during 5 different seasons... yet his best PP-goal season ranks 94th best.

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Luongo has a shot at taking the title for most shots against during a career, especially if he stays with the Panthers. He's less than 8,000 behind Brodeur.

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i'd say most of them. I have about 50-60 years left probably. There is not many records that still hold that were made in the 1950s. I think someone drafted in 2042 draft or what not could very well break all Gretzky's records. The game itself most likely will be very different in 30 years.

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i'd say most of them. I have about 50-60 years left probably. There is not many records that still hold that were made in the 1950s. I think someone drafted in 2042 draft or what not could very well break all Gretzky's records. The game itself most likely will be very different in 30 years.
Question is, if the NHL will be here in 2042?

But i would say "Most shutouts, one playoff season: Martin Brodeur 7 (200203)".

The game is still very much about defense. And with great goalie, great defense it could be possible.

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I think all of these records getting named were broken my lifetime. I want to see 8 goals in a game. Get on it, Ovechkin. Swing away.

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Ovechkin has led the league in ES goals 3 times. The current record holder is Gretzky and Hull tied with 4. Not impossible for Ovechkin to tie/take the lead there. Hard and unlikely. But not 100% impossible.
Most times leading the league in ES goals since the league officially started keeping track of manpower on the ice when goals were scored. What year was this?

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Most times leading the league in ES goals since the league officially started keeping track of manpower on the ice when goals were scored. What year was this?

I am not sure, but maybe 63-64? I didn't realize to check that at first.

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I am not sure, but maybe 63-64?
Right. H-R starts differentiating goals in 63-64 and assists in 67-68 (why not the same year???)

So Bobby Hull probably led the league in ES goals more than the 4 times H-R has him down for: http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/hullbo01.html. I can't imagine him not leading the league in ES goals in 61-62, when he led in overall goals 50-33.

Edit: Looking at the numbers from the hockey summary project (via overpass), Hull led the league in ES goals in both 1959-60 and 1961-62, in addition to the 4 that H-R lists.

So Bobby Hull actually led the league in ES goals 6 times.

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Right. H-R starts differentiating goals in 63-64 and assists in 67-68 (why not the same year???)

So Bobby Hull probably led the league in ES goals more than the 4 times H-R has him down for: http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/hullbo01.html. I can't imagine him not leading the league in ES goals in 61-62, when he led in overall goals 50-33.

Edit: Looking at the numbers from the hockey summary project (via overpass), Hull led the league in ES goals in both 1959-60 and 1961-62, in addition to the 4 that H-R lists.

So Bobby Hull actually led the league in ES goals 6 times.
Ok, thanks. So seems like Ovechkin is not going to be able to do that no matter what.

Kind of weird that they have the goals sorted four years earlier. Maybe it is just a matter of it taking more work?

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I think some consistent goalie will eventually break Brodeur's wins record.
17 years of 40 wins seasons would make it to 680 wins which is still 8 wins behind.

if there wasn't those 3 lockouts and brodeur has 105 ties also which would turn into about 55-60 wins he would be reaching 800 wins instead of 700.



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If Lundqvist played 9 more years identical to his first 9, that would bring him to 618 at age 40. 2 more seasons of 35 wins would tie him with Marty. It's possible.
lundqvist has averaged 34.33 wins per season in his first 9 years so he would need 11 more years of those type of seasons and considering the fact he isn't getting any younger i jus't cant see him hitting "even" 600 wins. he will have a chance for roy's 551 wins but that's still alot of work to do.

but if he breaks roy's record we gotta remember the fact roy has 131 ties meanwhile lundqvist has benefitted from shootout era.

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patrick marleau might have chance to break games played record. he has 1247 games played at age 34, if he plays 6 more years with avg 80 games per year he will make it to 1727 which would put him only 40 games behind gordie howe.

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patrick marleau might have chance to break games played record. he has 1247 games played at age 34, if he plays 6 more years with avg 80 games per year he will make it to 1727 which would put him only 40 games behind gordie howe.
He has been amazingly healthy over his career.

Though Gordie did play almost his entire career with a 70-game schedule. Adding 12 games per year he would be close to 2000.

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Ovechkin breaking Lindsay's record for most AST berths at LW (currently 9 to 6).

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If Lundqvist played 9 more years identical to his first 9, that would bring him to 618 at age 40. 2 more seasons of 35 wins would tie him with Marty. It's possible.
That would be an utterly ridiculous achievement if it happens.

Think about it. He's already 32. You're requiring he plays at what is basically his CURRENT rate for another 11 years until age 43. Something Brodeur himself.. who was remarkably healthy and consistent until recent years in his 40s.. couldn't do.

Price, as far as he is, has a better shot. You need to come into the league early and be on a winner throughout.

Shootouts definitely make it a beatable accomplishment though. Marty didn't have the shootout for much of his prime while presumably any incoming goalie (and current goalie a la Lundqvist/Price) would.

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The Lindsay award has only been awarded since 1970 and Gretzky didn't have quite the death-grip on that award as he did on the others. He has the record with 5 trophies, Crosby and Ovechkin have 3 right now, it's not completely impossible that one of them could win the award 3 more times and get to 6.

Gartners records of 17 consecutive 30 goal seasons might be beatable. Ovechkin is at 9 right now, he would need to hit 30 until he is 38 years old.

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Ovechkin breaking Lindsay's record for most AST berths at LW (currently 9 to 6).
Only if he gets moved back to LW

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Only if he gets moved back to LW
Or the voters screw up again.

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Here's a Brodeir record I think gets broken in the next decade: most wins in a season. With the shootout, its inevitable that a workhorse goalie on a stacked team will break it

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Here's a Brodeir record I think gets broken in the next decade: most wins in a season. With the shootout, its inevitable that a workhorse goalie on a stacked team will break it
Haven't teams been shying away from playing goaltenders that many games lately? The year Brodeur broke the record, the 10th Place goalie in GP played more than the #1 goalie this year. Even the Rangers are cutting back on Lundqvist, who used to be a yearly 70+ guy.

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He has been amazingly healthy over his career.

Though Gordie did play almost his entire career with a 70-game schedule. Adding 12 games per year he would be close to 2000.
ya true that..

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