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08-07-2014, 09:19 AM
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It's irrelevant since he will be in the NHL, but Drouin would clearly benefit this team tremendously. This kind of attitude is what leads to excessive muckers and grinders taking roster spots from the best players.
It is all about the pecking order. Drouin by his presence would be Captain.
It wouldn't work.Not in this case.
The players like Ekblad and Reinhart have the right attitude. Even they might not be around but i would expect at least one of them will be and it is all about leadership.We do remember Patrice Cormier don't we. Having the right leadership has to be more than a political statement.

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It is all about the pecking order. Drouin by his presence would be Captain.
It wouldn't work.Not in this case.
The players like Ekblad and Reinhart have the right attitude. Even they might not be around but i would expect at least one of them will be and it is all about leadership.We do remember Patrice Cormier don't we. Having the right leadership has to be more than a political statement.
That's something else the dimwits with the HC team management (Salmond and Co) should work on eliminating as well. Even if Drouin came back for a 3rd tournament, he wouldn't be my choice for team captain....and I happen to be a fan and do believe he would be an asset to the team if available.

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It is all about the pecking order. Drouin by his presence would be Captain.
It wouldn't work.Not in this case.
The players like Ekblad and Reinhart have the right attitude. Even they might not be around but i would expect at least one of them will be and it is all about leadership.We do remember Patrice Cormier don't we. Having the right leadership has to be more than a political statement.
Saying that Drouin as captain would not work (speculation at this point) is a very different statement than saying that the team would be better off without Drouin. Canada didn't win with Patrice Cormier as captain, but they did win with Theo Fleury of all people as captain. The best way to make a captain look good, especially in such a short tournament, is to have great talent on the team.

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08-07-2014, 07:19 PM
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That's something else the dimwits with the HC team management (Salmond and Co) should work on eliminating as well. Even if Drouin came back for a 3rd tournament, he wouldn't be my choice for team captain....and I happen to be a fan and do believe he would be an asset to the team if available.
He did not seem like much of a leader last time around. He will not be an asset if he showed up with the same attitude as last year.

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08-07-2014, 10:30 PM
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Team Canada is better off without Drouin LOL

You can say what you want about his attitude last year, but do any of you actually remember the tournament? The team was AWFUL at moving the puck and keeping possession. as the tournament went on Drouin started trying to do too much, but in my opinion it was warranted. Everybody is acting like he had some ridiculously good supporting cast that was playing well and clicking and he was just being a puck hog. If Im the coach and nobody else (other than Mantha) is getting anything done, Im giving him free reign to do what he wants to try to spark something.

He got frustrated with the refs, and at one point after a very, very soft checking to the head call. I dont blame him for that, yes there were other points where he could have handled himself better, but he was an 18 year old superstar on an underperforming Canadian team that was expected to win gold.

But yeah, tell me more about how team Canada doesnt need a 2ppg (and almost 3ppg over the last half of the year) player in the CHL


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08-07-2014, 10:49 PM
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I don't know about that. Lazar, Reinhart, Petan are some guys he's going to have to beat out if they stay in junior.
If Ekblad and Drouin aren't there, I'd toss Lazar the C and Horvat an A. This is coming from a Canucks fan and a big Horvat fan.

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He did not seem like much of a leader last time around. He will not be an asset if he showed up with the same attitude as last year.
Well, he'd probably be Canada's top offensive threat and would bolster them further, but yeah he clearly had a superiority complex last year at the WJC. Got to the point where Mantha seemed like was essentially just standing around doing nothing, knowing the puck was never going to find him so long as he kept shifting with Drouin.

That **** pissed me off, and I always keep wondering if Drouin is going to be the most frustrating player in the NHL if he doesn't smarten up.

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He did not seem like much of a leader last time around. He will not be an asset if he showed up with the same attitude as last year.
He played a decent tournament other than a few games... Mantha, Lazar and Drouin (too a lesser extent) are the only players excused for last year's results imo.

And name me 1 player with a crappy attitude that would be an asset? As you've seen a million of my posts, team (player attitude) is the function of Team Management. a.k.a. Scott Salmond.

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I just have a feeling McKeown will make the team. Been involved with the program of excellence and Hockey Canada. He hasn't been bad but I think that will come in the deciding factor of HC if it's close between him and someone else. It shouldn't be but it'll look good for HC to have a player go through the U17s, U18s and U20s as proof for success in POG.

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lazar wore the C had 3 goals and an assist fwiw

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He played a decent tournament other than a few games... Mantha, Lazar and Drouin (too a lesser extent) are the only players excused for last year's results imo.

And name me 1 player with a crappy attitude that would be an asset? As you've seen a million of my posts, team (player attitude) is the function of Team Management. a.k.a. Scott Salmond.
I think part of the problem is how aggressively HC pumps Canada's international success to these kids. On the one hand, I get why they do it...on the other hand when you hear the kids talk before the tournaments, you get the impression that some of them think that Sidney Crosby's accomplishments are somehow their own and that merely by wearing a Team Canada jersey, they're on the same level of other more successful players (ignoring the number of times other players have actually won/medalled in int'l competition).

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I think part of the problem is how aggressively HC pumps Canada's international success to these kids. On the one hand, I get why they do it...on the other hand when you hear the kids talk before the tournaments, you get the impression that some of them think that Sidney Crosby's accomplishments are somehow their own and that merely by wearing a Team Canada jersey, they're on the same level of other more successful players (ignoring the number of times other players have actually won/medalled in int'l competition).
That's not the impression I get. I don't have any issue with the player's media speak and they answer questions the way they have been trained, some are better at it than others, and for some they've been trained too much in media speak...but that's another topic.) I wish HC would stop using the players to sell the tournament, and for the players to stop functioning as admen for HC sponsors in commercials and all the other media nonsense HC puts them threw. ban TSN from attending December camp , or at least restrict their access... the players have only one function, and that's to play the game...nothing else. HC needs to put an end to exploiting free labour.

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So after watching the Czech-Canada game featuring the 'B' team and admittedly not seeing much of the "A" team I was thinking something like this for the forwards:

- McDavid - Fabbri
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- Horvat - Petan
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Anyone watch the "A" team can add to this?
Left out Bennett because I don't want any players on the team that will cost the team with stupid penalties. He'll probably make it though.

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08-08-2014, 01:49 PM
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Can't go back to the prospects thread, too many Americans taking over the thread with their trolling..

Please, please, no Max Domi.

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I just have a feeling McKeown will make the team. Been involved with the program of excellence and Hockey Canada. He hasn't been bad but I think that will come in the deciding factor of HC if it's close between him and someone else. It shouldn't be but it'll look good for HC to have a player go through the U17s, U18s and U20s as proof for success in POG.
I don't know. If it, as you say, was close, then I wouldn't see this as a big problem. It's good to have a player who's had success with Canada at different levels. He was also the captain when winning the gold at the 2013 U-18 WHC.

It also depends on who would be left off, of course.


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Can't go back to the prospects thread, too many Americans taking over the thread with their trolling..

Please, please, no Max Domi.
i hear ya, i really cant see it for max domi at this point, he didnt take over offensively enough to justify his attitude, which was on show today. He did have some nice flashes though, if he has a strong first half of the year and earns a spot in camp then that is a different story

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We don't need an undisciplined team here so that goes for Domi not making this team. He needs to mature and not try to get payback on every single hit. Bennett is also a big penalty taker, I think 2016 is his year to make the WJC because he hasn't been impressive this summer camp with his penalties. His game overall hasn't been that good aswell but I still think he gets the December camp invite.McDavid was amazing like always he makes things happen, him, Fabbri and Ritchie have some chemistry and I think that's how the first line should look like. They've been electric. Duclair and Reinhart have had some chemistry aswell but Reinhart might not be able to make it.

Some locks on defence to make it have to be, Nurse, Fleury, Sanheim. I also think Morrissey, Theodore and Morin are some guys who should make it. Morin took his bad penalties but that isn't his game, he's solid defensively, the last guy should be RHD but Bowey isn't impressing. McKeown is a pretty good all around defenceman, he's a pretty reliable, safe, mobile defenceman. So I think the 7 defenceman should be Nurse, Fleury, Sanheim, Morrissey, Theodore, Morin, McKeown.

Heatherington was also a pretty good show, he's big, reliable but I think we need some good skaters out there and his skating plus his offence game hasn't impressed me quite enough.

On forwards, we have alot of spark plugs type of players like Chase, Hawryluk, Gregiore, Nastasiuk, Point. Nick Paul has looked good but his skating hasn't been where it should be to make the WJC. He'll be in tough IMO. I think a Duclair-Dal Colle duo has potential and then maybe a Petan as the centre to get Petan going because he hasn't been impressive this summer camp. I think Baptiste, Virtanen, Dickinson, Horvat, Klimchuk will find their ways onto this team aswell.

Here's my roster lineup after this summer camp:

Ritchie - McDavid - Fabbri
Duclair - Lazar - Dal Colle
Petan - Horvat - Virtanen
Klimchuk - Dickinson - Baptiste
Paul

Nurse - Fleury
Sanheim - Morrissey
Morin - Theodore
McKeown

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I'm not too sure about Ritchie at this point. Even if the penalties he gets aren't deserved he's still getting called a lot.

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Ritchie is out of control. I like what I've seen from McDavid,Reinhart,Fabbri,Lazar,Baptiste, and Duclair on forward. Ritchie is a great player and probably should make it but he needs to quit leaving his feet. Also I like Jarry as the goalie.

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My lineup after the tourney:

xxx-McDavid-Fabbri
Dal Colle-Lazar-Baptiste/Virtanen
Klimchux-Horvat-Duclair
Ritchie-Dickinson-Baptiste/Virtanen
Paul, Chase, Petan?

Fleury-Sanheim
Morrissey-Nurse
Morin- Theodore

Fucale
Jarry

I think Bennett will make the team, but not sure in what capacity. He didn't impress me much except for a few instances; he really needs to learn how to use his stick better. He got numerous tripping, high-sticking, hooking, ext; penalties that coaches do not like.

Had success with Fabbri and McDavid.

Bennett definitely needs to add some weight, wouldn't surprise me if he didn't make the Flames for another two years, but it ALL depends on his CHL season. Have to remind myself, this is just a summer exhibition tournament.

I excluded the likes of Reinhart/Ekblad/ect, as they will most likely make their NHL squads.

Fabbri really impressed me, as did Baptiste, Lazar, and Dal Colle. Fleury was the best dman for Canada.

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i liked bowey over everyone who isnt named ekblad, morrisey, nurse, fleury

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Dave Reid of TSN pointed out that some centres could possibly be in the NHL like Horvat, Lazar, Reinhart. If all those 3 goes, do we match-up McDavid against Eichel or try to get someone like Petan, Dickinson to get on Eichel.

That also brings up another question if Horvat and Lazar are in junior, who matches up against Eichel? Do we even try to match up against Eichel?

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xxx-McDavid-Fabbri
Dal Colle-Lazar-Baptiste/Virtanen
Klimchux-Horvat-Duclair
Ritchie-Dickinson-Baptiste/Virtanen
Paul, Chase, Petan?

Fleury-Sanheim
Morrissey-Nurse
Morin- Theodore

Fucale
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I think Bennett will make the team, but not sure in what capacity. He didn't impress me much except for a few instances; he really needs to learn how to use his stick better. He got numerous tripping, high-sticking, hooking, ext; penalties that coaches do not like.

Had success with Fabbri and McDavid.

Bennett definitely needs to add some weight, wouldn't surprise me if he didn't make the Flames for another two years, but it ALL depends on his CHL season. Have to remind myself, this is just a summer exhibition tournament.

I excluded the likes of Reinhart/Ekblad/ect, as they will most likely make their NHL squads.

Fabbri really impressed me, as did Baptiste, Lazar, and Dal Colle. Fleury was the best dman for Canada.
Why not Ritchie and Duclair a little higher? They were outstanding in this summer exhibition game IMO.

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i liked bowey over everyone who isnt named ekblad, morrisey, nurse, fleury
Really??? Him, Bigras, and Heatherington didn't impress me.

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