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04-12-2007, 08:45 AM
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I should add that "Savard who wanted top take S.Kostitsyn 45th and Bob who opted to take Latendresse instead" is based on rumour.

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I should add that "Savard who wanted top take S.Kostitsyn 45th and Bob who opted to take Latendresse instead" is based on rumour.
And even if that rumour is true, wouldn't we be ecstatic right now to see how our 2nd rounder (Kosty Jr.) is dominating the Juniors? Would Latendresse be in the NHL elsewhere in the league? Anybody knows for sure if Kosty Jr. won't end up being better than Lats in the end?

I don't think we can use that by saying that Bob knew the pulse of other GM so he took a chance of letting him pass by? If so, how many players did we let go like that thinking they would be available later but end up being taken, that we will never know.

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04-12-2007, 09:12 AM
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I miss Savard and Vignault.
I miss Pollock and Bowman ....

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And even if that rumour is true, wouldn't we be ecstatic right now to see how our 2nd rounder (Kosty Jr.) is dominating the Juniors? Would Latendresse be in the NHL elsewhere in the league? Anybody knows for sure if Kosty Jr. won't end up being better than Lats in the end?

I don't think we can use that by saying that Bob knew the pulse of other GM so he took a chance of letting him pass by? If so, how many players did we let go like that thinking they would be available later but end up being taken, that we will never know.
Savard wanted Kopitar instead of Price. That's not a rumour.


As for Savard. yes he knows talent, exspecially European. The Senators were full of them. Have they won anything significant with them (a Cup ?). Now, they have 5-6 European players, and they are a TEAM.

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Savard wanted Kopitar instead of Price. That's not a rumour.


As for Savard. yes he knows talent, exspecially European. The Senators were full of them. Have they won anything significant with them (a Cup ?). Now, they have 5-6 European players, and they are a TEAM.
Hey, but Timmins is the boss and said he didn't want to take an other gamble on a high Eupopean star, only 2 years after the Kostitsyn's pick.

At this moment, I think the Price's pick was great, finally...

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Savard wanted Kopitar instead of Price. That's not a rumour.


As for Savard. yes he knows talent, exspecially European. The Senators were full of them. Have they won anything significant with them (a Cup ?). Now, they have 5-6 European players, and they are a TEAM.
Source? I've only heard speculation he was after Pouliot. This would be interesting to see.

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04-12-2007, 09:24 AM
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Hey, but Timmins is the boss and said he didn't want to take an other gamble on a high Eupopean star, only 2 years after the Kostitsyn's pick.

At this moment, I think the Price's pick was great, finally...
It was a great pick indeed. Huet might be gone by the end of next year if he doesn't come back to his last year shape and production. Hopefully, they won't trade Halak away for the moment. He is the next Tomas Vokoun.

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It was a great pick indeed. Huet might be gone by the end of next year if he doesn't come back to his last year shape and production. Hopefully, they won't trade Halak away for the moment. He is the next Tomas Vokoun.
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04-12-2007, 12:24 PM
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Savard wanted Kopitar instead of Price. That's not a rumour.
I thought Savard wanted to draft Latendresse with the 1st rounder

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04-12-2007, 12:39 PM
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I thought Savard wanted to draft Latendresse with the 1st rounder
That might be it. I forget.

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04-12-2007, 12:44 PM
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Czerkawski for our 1st rounder was Andre's as well. He did make some lousy decisions.
Czerkawski was for Asham and a 3rd or 4th rounder, not a first rounder.

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Good to hear but at the same time, was he really going to say that his picks ended up being mediocre or useless?
At the same time, I guess anyone here can be a judge:

In this year lineup:
- Komisarek
- Perezhogin (might turn out has the best from the Svitov-Chistov-Perezhogin line) and at the time, he wanted to trade up to select Alex Hemsky
- Plekanec
- Higgins (the 2002 draft was weak, but it's sad we didn't even give a try to Lombardi)
- Latendresse (he praised Gainey to trade to pick him)

Frankly, a way better job than the guy before him... and a good guy to have IN your hockey club.

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04-12-2007, 01:08 PM
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Savard wanted to draft Brule, with the 5 pick i thought this was common knowledge. Savard did a decent job while he was in charge his drafting was probably his stongest area, the only thing that bothered me about Savard is he had an strong liking for guys like Bulis, etc.


anyhow it's funny everyone likes the GM/coaches after they are gone,but not when they are actually your gm/coach in the present. maybe it's a memory thing i dunno. I bet after Gainey and Carbo are gone people will miss them and want them back too.

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04-12-2007, 01:20 PM
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Savard wanted to draft Brule, with the 5 pick i thought this was common knowledge. Savard did a decent job while he was in charge his drafting was probably his stongest area, the only thing that bothered me about Savard is he had an strong liking for guys like Bulis, etc.


anyhow it's funny everyone likes the GM/coaches after they are gone,but not when they are actually your gm/coach in the present. maybe it's a memory thing i dunno. I bet after Gainey and Carbo are gone people will miss them and want them back too.
Rejean Houle I dont want him back

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Lots of selective memory here with what Andre Savard did as our GM. He did make some good decisions at the draft table and we have him to thank for a lot of our young players. But he also screwed up on a number of occasions in trades/signings.

Traded for Berezin
Acquired Patrick Traverse for Eric Weinrich
Subjected us to Gino Odjick
Czerkawski

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04-12-2007, 01:53 PM
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Rejean Houle I dont want him back
I think that one is universally agreed upon amazingly, except maybe by Houle's family and friends.

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04-12-2007, 04:01 PM
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Agree, but Theo threatened to hold out. Bob probably wouldn't have done any better with his contract. Brisebois at $4 mil for his playing time is akin to Bouillon at $2.5 mil.

I really think we're still better off with Bob. Andre thinks more in terms of getting talent for cheap, which is exactly how most HFboards posters think. Bob focuses moreso on the chemistry of his team, and if he has to pay a price for the veteran he wants, he will.

It really comes down to Gainey's experience playing with a dynasty. He knows how to keep teams winning, and he knows how players think. He'd rather keep his team sinking than make a panic move and hurt it in the long run.
We also didn't trade a first for Chow.

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