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08-21-2014, 02:29 PM
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Why are we moving Streit again?

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Why are we moving Streit again?
We need more slower d men who can't handle the puck.

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we did: Ryan White

Plus there's also Raffl and the Frenchman
Screw Handzus then, White plays 4th line. Raffl plays with Phantoms with Laughton.

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Screw Handzus then, White plays 4th line. Raffl plays with Phantoms with Laughton.
Raffl is signed to a one way contract and it would be silly to send a player of his caliber to the AHL.

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I still think Laughton should play over VV, White and any other 4th line center we have. Seriously, 4th line minutes with Raffl and Bellemare would do wonders for him. He'd at least have reliable linemates, and better ones than Couts had when he was a rookie.

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Screw Handzus then, White plays 4th line. Raffl plays with Phantoms with Laughton.

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08-21-2014, 09:49 PM
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Screw Handzus then, White plays 4th line. Raffl plays with Phantoms with Laughton.
Why would Raffl be on the Phantoms? Last year he proved he's an NHL player

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Screw Handzus then, White plays 4th line. Raffl plays with Phantoms with Laughton.
You're clueless.

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08-22-2014, 07:21 AM
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Raffl's closer to the first line than he is to the AHL.

He's here to stay. Good versatility. Should always be fairly cheap. Great glue guy for the bottom six.

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Raffl wouldn't clear waivers.

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Only an idiot would take Raffl out of the lineup. He's like a lesser Matt Read, good skating, good defensively, can score a bit, and can play on any line and at any position.

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You're clueless.
Cause I don't see as much upside in Raffl? He's a 25 year old bottom 6 forward. I apologize for not knowing he had a one way contract, but he isnt first line material.

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Cause I don't see as much upside in Raffl? He's a 25 year old bottom 6 forward. I apologize for not knowing he had a one way contract, but he isnt first line material.
Neither is Brouwer.

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08-22-2014, 09:41 AM
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Neither is Brouwer.
I completely agree, but I'd give up Raffl for Brouwer any day. Brouwer plays a very similar game to Hartnell, and was very productive last season. He is definitely not a first line winger, but having Brouwer, Read, Umberger and Bellamare is a pretty solid LW.

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I completely agree, but I'd give up Raffl for Brouwer any day. Brouwer plays a very similar game to Hartnell, and was very productive last season. He is definitely not a first line winger, but having Brouwer, Read, Umberger and Bellamare is a pretty solid LW.
Brouwer's also under contract with another team. That poses a bit of an issue. And no, just Vinny isn't getting it done. Plus, Brouwer's the last type of forward the Flyers need. They need more skill on wing, not more mucker and grinder types like Brouwer.

Keep Raffl and play him in the middle six where he belongs.

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I completely agree, but I'd give up Raffl for Brouwer any day. Brouwer plays a very similar game to Hartnell, and was very productive last season. He is definitely not a first line winger, but having Brouwer, Read, Umberger and Bellamare is a pretty solid LW.
Your Vinny (15% retained) and a 4th for Brouwer trade would never happen in a million years. The Caps are dumb (see Orpik), but probably not that dumb.

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I completely agree, but I'd give up Raffl for Brouwer any day. Brouwer plays a very similar game to Hartnell, and was very productive last season. He is definitely not a first line winger, but having Brouwer, Read, Umberger and Bellamare is a pretty solid LW.
Brouwer also makes more than three times of what Raffl makes. Who is to say Raffl can't improve on his previous season and put up 40 points this year? He's signed to a cap friendly deal, so it's to our benefit to see if he can still improve.

And why would WSH take Vinny for Brouwer?

I'm all for armchair GMs, but seriously, have some common sense and reality when making moves

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Cause I don't see as much upside in Raffl? He's a 25 year old bottom 6 forward. I apologize for not knowing he had a one way contract, but he isnt first line material.
Even if he had a two-way contract, a team would have snatched him up as soon as the Flyers tried to send him down to the AHL. A two-way contract only protects your player from being claimed in NHL videogames, not the actual NHL.

Raffl hasn't displayed the scoring ability to be a consistent top 6 player, but he certainly has shown he can fill in there on a short term basis. Giroux and Voracek both had better CF% and GF% playing with Raffl than they did playing with Hartnell.

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Cause I don't see as much upside in Raffl? He's a 25 year old bottom 6 forward. I apologize for not knowing he had a one way contract, but he isnt first line material.
You're clueless because you think either Handzus or White are a better option than Raffl, no matter if it's the first or fourth line.

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08-22-2014, 12:59 PM
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Raffl is definitely an NHLer -- it's just finding a place to put him because of his varied skillset. Jack of all trades, master of none.

Good skater, passer. Good awareness. Doesn't play THAT big. Offense is a question mark -- how good is he? Can use skating to assist with defense.

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This seems like the initial roster we are heading towards.

FORWARDS
Brayden Schenn ($2.500m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
R.J. Umberger ($4.600m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Jason Akeson ($0.575m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Petr Straka ($0.925m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.300m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nick Schultz ($1.250m) / Robert Hagg ($0.925m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) / Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Ray Emery ($1.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $75,211,429; BONUSES: $1,500,000
CAP SPACE (25-man roster): -$6,211,429

As soon as the deadline passes, Straka and Hagg would be demoted to create $1.85 million in cap space, and Bellemare would be called up. Giving us lines like these:

BSchenn-Giroux-Voracek
Read- Couturier-Simmonds
Umberger-Lecavalier-Akeson
Raffl-Bellemare-Rinaldo
Rosehill

MacDonald-Coburn
Grossmann-Streit
MDZ-LSchenn
Schultz

Mason
Emery

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09-22-2014, 11:29 AM
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why would Straka and Hagg be up before? Straka shouldnt even sniff the NHL right now in any way

just go to capgeek and see the roster there. All we have to do to be cap compliant before the season starts is place Pronger on LTIR after camp


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why would Straka and Hagg be up before? Straka shouldnt even sniff the NHL right now in any way

just go to capgeek and see the roster there. All we have to do to be cap compliant before the season starts is place Pronger on LTIR after camp
I think you're missing the point. It creates the most cap flexibility moving forward. Straka wouldn't play a game. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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I think you're missing the point. It creates the most cap flexibility moving forward. Straka wouldn't play a game. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
You have to be under before, or LTIR guys before, the first game. We won't be able to get under before, so it's option 2. The Flyers have to go over to the max of both the Pronger and Timonen contracts, since LTIR is only the replacement value.

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OPTION 2: Put the injured player on LTIR on the final day of training camp and, including the injured player’s annual average salary or cap hit, build a roster that exceeds the upper limit by an amount that is as close as possible to the injured player's annual average salary.

By way of example, the upper limit is $70.0M and a team’s Averaged Club Salary or cap payroll on the final day of training camp is $71.5M, including an injured player with an Averaged Amount or cap hit of $2M. The team places the player on LTIR on the final day of training camp and is deemed to have already fully replaced the injured player, meaning the team’s new upper limit is $71.5M instead of $70.0M.

Had the team recalled a player with a $500K cap hit prior to making the LTIR designation, its Averaged Club Salary would have increased to $72.0M from $71.5M, and likewise its new upper limit would have increased to $72.0M from $71.5M. This highlights the importance of a team having its Averaged Club Salary exceed the upper limit by an amount as close as possible to the injured player’s Annual Average before making the LTIR placement in order to maximize cap space.
There are a couple specific examples of Option 2 from Det. and Pitt. The Flyers will to recall a couple extra guys for a game to get the max benefit of putting Pronger and Timonen on LTIR to start. It doesn't need to be Straka and Haag, it could be anyone as long as the numbers add up.

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You have to be under before, or LTIR guys before, the first game. We won't be able to get under before, so it's option 2. The Flyers have to go over to the max of both the Pronger and Timonen contracts, since LTIR is only the replacement value.

http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-does-...erve-LTIR-work


There are a couple specific examples of Option 2 from Det. and Pitt. The Flyers will to recall a couple extra guys for a game to get the max benefit of putting Pronger and Timonen on LTIR to start. It doesn't need to be Straka and Haag, it could be anyone as long as the numbers add up.
Yes, that's what I was getting at. Hagg and Straka are two of the guys who make the most.

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