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02-18-2004, 01:54 PM
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I wasn't impressed at all with Schwartz in any of the 3 games I saw him play in... Granted he didn't have the best team in front of him, but in past WJC guys like Luongo at least took the games into OT... Schwartz just fell apart.
Strongly disagree. Schwarz was the ONLY reason the Czechs finished top 4 in the tornament. That Czech defence, IMO, played the worst (defensively, offensively they were pretty good)) of the big 7 hockey nations, and it certainly didn't help that they missed Barinka for a couple of games and Smid for one. It's certainly not fair to compare the team that Luongo had in front of him to the team Schwarz had.

That being said, Schwarz does seem to suffer from lack of concentration at times, but probably no worse than any other 17 year-old goalie in the game. If he can work on that (plus his over-commitment to the puck when moving laterally), IMO he'll be a franchise goalie, and well worth the pick if he falls 13 - 15.

P.S - he didn't exactly fall apart...here were his stats

Name No. G GIP MIP SOG GA GAA SVS SVS%
SCHWARZ Marek 1 7 7 388:46 187 18 2.78 169 90.37%
(courtesy iihf.com)

Not earth-shattering, but still respectable. Of note, he faced the second-most shots in the tournament and played the most minutes out of any goaltender.

(I don't know why the colums won't line up, because they did when I posted it. My apologies for the ugly presentation)


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02-18-2004, 02:03 PM
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Malkin or Tukonen
Picard or Wolski
Valabik
Dubnyk

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02-18-2004, 02:16 PM
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#2 - Alarvo Montoya

I know a lot of people here would hate it if Lowe picked up a goalie, but Montoya is a STUD. He's got Marty Turco written all over him. To me, he's the best goalie in the draft, and should be in the top 5 - 7. No doubt he'll go before #20, and maybe even in the top 10. If Tukonen is gone, the Oilers should absolutely not be afraid to take this guy.
Turco didn't produce until he was about 26 years old. Do we really have that kind of time to wait for a #1 goalie??
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#3 - Evan McGrath

I dunno if his stock will rise quick enough to be taken with the first pick, but if he's around for the second pick, I'd like to see the Oilers take him. From the scouting reports I hear, he sounds like a real ideal 2nd line centreman. I've heard that he could maybe play wing too.
I've seen quite a bit of McGrath and he has got a lot of potential but a big reason people were so high on him was because of how well the Rangers did last year. Remember that he was behind Roy and Richards on the depth charts.
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Note: If Wes O'Neill is available before McGrath or maybe even Montoya, I'd go for it. If he opts out of 2004, pick him up in 2005!
Last I heard, Wes wanted to go into the draft now but he won't play for a least a couple more years.

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02-18-2004, 03:51 PM
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Also i 'd like to see Oilers get Russian defender Kyril Lyamin (1986) from Red Army. Very impressive young man, great positional play, hard, calm, big. Good skating, especially for the man of his size. Not great offencively maybe. Could be a steal in the 2-d I believe. I dont know if anybody seen him besides russian residents, because due to the different reasons he didn't play in the international games since later 2002. But this kid going to be very good player.

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02-18-2004, 04:07 PM
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For 2004, I'd like to see the Oilers draft Ovechkin.

.. Crosby in 05.

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02-18-2004, 04:20 PM
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(Assuming we have no chance in hell on getting Ovechkin)
With our first pick i would like the Edmonton Oilers to select in this order...

1. Cam Barker
2. Robbie Shremph
3. Tukonen
What we need is a francise defenseman to round out our top 2 Dman pairing along with Eric Brewer. Cam is perfect for this.

With The Flyers pick i want the Oilers to select....

1. Marek Schwartz
2. Alvaro Montoya

We need another goalie other than JDD. At this point i havent given up on Jeff, but i'm having an extremely hard time thinking of him as a francise goalie in he cant even crack the WJC lineup. I definitely would be pleased with either Schwartz or Montoya.

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02-18-2004, 07:23 PM
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I'd take Barker if he's available, and if he's not that kid from the Q Alexandre Picard is his name.

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02-18-2004, 10:26 PM
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Here is my top 20:

1. OVECHKIN - obvious choice
2. MALKIN - could be the next Federov
3. OLESZ - 2nd best power forward behind Ovechkin
4. BARKER - better version of Brewer
5. TOUKONEN - has speed, size and hands...what else do you need from a player
6. SCHREMP - great vision...PP specialist
7. SCHWARZ - Hasek style goalie
8. PICARD - sniper with size
9. WOLSKI - good combo of size and skill...expected more production from him
10. O'NEILL - big 2 way d-man...if he opts-in he will lose his college eligibility
11. MONTOYA - Turco style goalie...needs to improve technical problems
12. BOLLAND - nose for the net...34 goals in 55 games
13. LISIN - fastest skater in draft...could turn out to be like Dvorak
14. GREEN - like Barker but not as big as Barker and a little less skill
15. KASPAR - goal scorer with size...20 goals in 17 games in Czech jr league
16. SINDEL - sniper that is more talented than Kaspar but lacks the size...built like Hemsky
17. STAFFORD - big power forward...safe pick...will probably not opt in
18. LADD - another big guy that can do everything...at least 3rd line potential
19. CHIPCHURA - safe pick...big and strong but does not have great finish around the net...at least will turn out to be a good 3rd liner
20. DUBNYK - big positional goalie that covers the net well...ok reflexes and concentration problems drop him down the list

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02-18-2004, 11:46 PM
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I will be extremely disappointed if all we end up picking with our first pick overall is Greene from the Saskatoon Blades - we need some high end skill with our first pick - and Greene is a solid, but very unspectacular defenceman...

My 2 cents

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02-19-2004, 09:52 AM
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Last I heard, Wes wanted to go into the draft now but he won't play for a least a couple more years.
i think entering the draft would be a weird move for O'Neill... he ditched the OHL to play in the USHL and the Notre Dame, but if he opts in he'll have gone through all that trouble for one year at ND. I've been hearing this guy is a top ten pick for a couple years now so it's not like his stock has skyrocketed.

I won't make any predictions but I think there's at least a chance he opts out.

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02-19-2004, 11:43 AM
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MY predictions are that the Oilers will pick in the 10-13 range:

I see them taking a forward like they always do with their first pick and it will be a more talented player over a safe pick liike Chipchura so therefore my prediction is Lisin or Picard.

The Philly pick will be in the 24-29 range and by than I think the draft gets a little fuzzier on who to pick; there are a lot of options:

At forward:
Soderberg
McGrath
Salmonsson
Zajac
Bickell

At defense:
Hedman
Meszaros
Valabik
Schultz
Lyamin
Tesliuk

It is questionable to go for a goalie at this point. Montoya, Dubnyk and Schwarz will probably be gone. Most talented goalie available is probably Cory Schneider but he plays in prep school and plays against weak competition making him a more risky pick. There should be some good goalies available in the 2nd round and that would be the best time to pick one of:

Shantz
Peters
Ellis
Brown

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02-19-2004, 12:15 PM
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Based on need:

Oilers pick: sniping right wing
Philly's pick: goaltender or offensive defenseman

I'd like to see the Oilers make more of a hit and run pick with their pick rather than the safe one this year. They can always go for the safe one with Philadelphia's pick.

Does anyone know which players are the most NHL ready other than Ovechkin?

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02-19-2004, 05:57 PM
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there were reports on either TSN or Headline Sports that Malkin was knocked out cold in a game on the weekend and his season could be over. The possibility of a serious head injury could drop his value come draft day.

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02-19-2004, 06:13 PM
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Shantz
Peters
Ellis
Brown
I think Shantz will fall to the 2nd round. I've watched him in Mississauga for a few years now and the kid proved he can keep a bad team in a game, and now he is proving he can win games with a good team.

If he's there, I'd grab him with one of the 2nd rounders.

EDIT: Huge brainfart... I've watched way too much hockey... I was actually thinking about David Chant, who used to be with the Battalion in their early years, so ignore my little posting.


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I want Tukonen and Schremp. I've just having problems figuring out how that would happen in this lifetime.

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Thats a very accurate list Blue Bullet.

Out of that if the Oilers could somehow manage to draft any two of Schremp, Barker, Lisin and Tukonen I think that would be great, personally I hope they take Schremp and Lisin but thats just me.

Also lets say that IF Schwarz falls to the philly pick but then there's a player like Lisin or Tukonen about who would you take?

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I want Tukonen and Schremp. I've just having problems figuring out how that would happen in this lifetime.

I agree, that would be ideal.. But that would probable cost us at least Ryan Smyth. Although I know Buffalo has a hard on for Smith. but given how they are playing it is very likely that their pick won't be high enough to get either of those guys

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02-20-2004, 12:54 PM
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If the season ended today, the Oilers would be selecting at around the 10 spot, and the Philly pick would be around the 27th spot.

The best players that are around the 10 spot:
- Wes O'Neill: Big, possible two way defenseman
- Wojtek Wolski: Good overall, and well rounded winger
- Lauri Tukonen: Winger with a combo of size and skill
- Alexandre Picard: Winger with size and a nose for the net
- Drew Stafford: Center who is well rounded in size, skill, and grit.
- Enver Lisin: Fast winger with great scoring instincts

The best players that are around the 27 spot:
- Lukas Kaspar: Winger with a goal scorer's mentality
- Bryan Bickell: Big winger compared to Mark Bell
- Johannes Salmonsson: Highly skilled winger sort of like Hemsky
- Andrej Meszaros: Good offensive Defenseman but a bit weak on his own end
- Carl Soderberg: Good all around two way winger
- Travis Zajac: Smart player with good on ice vision

Of course there may be some players that would drop down to the Oilers' picks, but I think at least some of these players would be available when they pick. My choices would be Tukonen or Lisin and Salmonsson or Meszaros.

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