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04-18-2007, 05:18 PM
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why the heck is anyone comparing a group of 15 year old kids ( or for that matter 16-20 year olds ) to a college team?
Because many Yanks seem to need to compare apples to oranges...in order to maintain the myth that their young ( mostly NCAA ) prospects are as good or better than our ( mostly CHL ) kids...

In truly Best on Best competitions, at the same age level, and likewise in terms of their NHL careers that Myth gets busted...time and again...

Yet they continue to argue the point...in the face of all available evidence...to the contrary

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04-18-2007, 09:20 PM
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why the heck is anyone comparing a group of 15 year old kids to a college team?
The point is at what age did the current NHL all stars surpass everyone in the league. It was not from birth. Its obviuos that the NCAA is older. So at what age did all these NHLers from the CHL surpass the older generations. It was not at 15. its going over the top to make a point. So the point is at at 21 vs 19. The average ages of a few teams. Is that 2 years difference alone makes a huge difference. The age difference alone. What a body can handle on its joints which = core strength. Experiance is self explanitory. That little bit of devolpment is huge. Enough to make a simple 2 year age difference a big deal. So when you toss in the same amount of drafted players x=x there. And 21>19 i do not know how that point is not getting across and instead is getting twisted.

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04-18-2007, 09:33 PM
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Idiot?

I am not comapring 15 year old prep players (Toews and Esposito were) to college kids....you are

Crosby at 16 could have easily played in the NCAA against 24 year old slugs from AA and done well.

The problem is that you do not have comparable talent in the NCAA to the CHL. You have a few stacked teams in maybe three conferences and then a huge drop off in depth.

The Soo Greyhounds this year could have easily played against LSSU, Ferris, B.G. Tech and even Northern Michigan....but then again you wouldn't know because you probably only saw one of those teams I mentioned.

Plymouth can easily play with MSU....again you wouldn't know because you have never seen Plymouth play and only saw MSU on T.V.

Go back to reading your glossy magazines in the bathroom and watch who you call an idiot goofer fan!
First off i apologize for calling you an idiot. That was wrong and it was uncalled for.

But we have gone through drafted players for drafted players. You have to tell me that the average CHL who is younger and undrafted. Is not only better than his older counterpart in the NCAA but is good enough to make up the age difference. That i cannot agree with. Expecially with the top NCAA teams. Its not like its 5 teams. I would call, BU, BC, NH, Maine, Mich, Mich St, MN, ND, DU, CC, WI, all premier programs. And the likes of SCSU, NotreDame, Clarkson, Mass, Miami all only a good string away from that list. ALmost 20 teams. Yes it is top heavy. But its not only a few teams.

But the really reason this will never go anywhere in the long run is the fans. If i was not pationate about my gophers. Paying sometimes 200% to a scalper for stading room only tickets. And many more fans. The prgram would look bad and the atmosphere would fade. Revenue would go down and the facilities would falter. Making it hard to entice talent. Just as you and many more come out and support juniors to make it appealing.

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04-18-2007, 09:44 PM
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Because many Yanks seem to need to compare apples to oranges...in order to maintain the myth that their young ( mostly NCAA ) prospects are as good or better than our ( mostly CHL ) kids...

In truly Best on Best competitions, at the same age level, and likewise in terms of their NHL careers that Myth gets busted...time and again...

Yet they continue to argue the point...in the face of all available evidence...to the contrary
Its not the same age that is the point. Its when there is a very obvious age difference. The top NCAA teams can match any CHL team talent for talent. So the difference makers are the 2-4th lines and the 3-6 defensemen. Which are older, going by genetics they can hold more muscle mass. Making them stronger. People like to say the CHL is bigger. I'd much rather have a sub 6 foot 20 year old vs a 6 4 18 year old. Its a matter of body function at that point. The shorter older player is more coordinated and actually stronger. They can add mass faster, more strength and be able to applt it due to there limbs not growing. Add in the way the body burns calories vs a growing body vs a fully mature body and its clear.

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04-18-2007, 09:49 PM
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why the heck is anyone comparing a group of 15 year old kids to a college team?
The first point was the CHL is better because it has more players in the NHL. I used SSM as an example. In 10 years they will have way more NHLers than the Alaska team form the NCAA. But if they played this year. Who would win? AA wins hands down. So why are future acoldaes indicative of how they are better in any given year. It is not. So using future NHLers in not a measuring stick to how well those teams were in the past.

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