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05-02-2007, 11:49 PM
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You can add Adam Oates and Dustin Penner to those who were never drafted......


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You can Adam Oates and Dustin Penner to those who were never drafted......
yea I know Oates was. But I meant this year. I think Belfour was not drafted either.

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05-02-2007, 11:52 PM
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yea I know Oates was. But I meant this year. I think Belfour was not drafted either.
Dan Boyle of Tampa wasn't drafted, and either was Andy McDonald of the Ducks.....

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Dan Boyle of Tampa wasn't drafted, and either was Andy McDonald of the Ducks.....
yea I forgot about Boyle.

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05-03-2007, 01:45 AM
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how do we scoop up players like this guy and that Jordan Owens kid? both of them sound great on paper....

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how do we scoop up players like this guy and that Jordan Owens kid? both of them sound great on paper....
well Owens aint signed yet, so who knows with him

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I guess they can have him play in Charlotte if he turns out to be a Busto.

Sorry couldnt resist
Was wondering how long it would take for that joke to hit. Rather unfortunate last name.

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05-03-2007, 02:00 AM
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Sounds like a pretty good signing. Excited to see how he does at the AHL level...

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Why wasn't Dan Girardi drafted?
It was talked about in the latest Blueshirt Bulletin. Renney said that he didn't feel Girardis battle level stood out when he scouted him, and said that he would have guessed that 29 other teams thought the same.

Girardi probably played in the CHL like he does in the NHL. He stands out if you watch him night in and night out, but he seldom makes any flashy moves and in juniors there is often allot of room for that.

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05-03-2007, 06:35 AM
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I can see Malik being traded at the next year's deadline. So, that'll free up a spot for 2008-2009 season. Mara would be gone after 2008-2009 season. That'll free up a spot for 2009-2010 season. I'd say that Baranka would replace Malik and Sanginetti will replace Mara.
Malik's contract expires after next season

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05-03-2007, 06:37 AM
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The Rangers committed a three year entry level deal to Busto

18-21-3 years
22-23-2 years
24-1 year

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I mean when players get drafted at 18 years old it is really hard to tell what they're going to be, basically impossible. Not really surprising that we have some Dan Girardis and some Pavel Brendls when they are trying to identify the talent at such a ridiculously young age.

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05-03-2007, 08:59 AM
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Dan Boyle of Tampa wasn't drafted, and either was Andy McDonald of the Ducks.....
Andy Greene of the Devils wasn't drafted. They made a comment in last night's game that the Devils have a knack for signing free agent players from the U.S. Colleges.

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I mean when players get drafted at 18 years old it is really hard to tell what they're going to be, basically impossible. Not really surprising that we have some Dan Girardis and some Pavel Brendls when they are trying to identify the talent at such a ridiculously young age.
I agree. I've followed the draft closely for almost 16 years now, some players are special, but most are hard to define cause they're still transitioning from boy to man. Guys like Girardi who have quiet demeanors on and off the ice slip through the cracks, lucky for him someone somewhere took notice and gave him a shot.

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The Rangers committed a three year entry level deal to Busto

18-21-3 years
22-23-2 years
24-1 year
Isn't that a pretty good contract for a player like him?

If so they must really belive in him.

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I can see Malik being traded at the next year's deadline. So, that'll free up a spot for 2008-2009 season. Mara would be gone after 2008-2009 season. That'll free up a spot for 2009-2010 season. I'd say that Baranka would replace Malik and Sanginetti will replace Mara.
I wouldn't be so quick to show Mara the door, I think he's rebounded quite well from his miss-use in Boston, He's a big body and he's only 27.

I think we need to be realistic about the future roster. So many posters are penciling in an all home-grown defense corp. I think that's not going to happen, it's true from an organizational standpoint that's our strongest and deepest position. So You have to use that advantage to shore up other defecincies such as Center, and goalie depth.

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I wouldn't be so quick to show Mara the door, I think he's rebounded quite well from his miss-use in Boston, He's a big body and he's only 27.

I think we need to be realistic about the future roster. So many posters are penciling in an all home-grown defense corp. I think that's not going to happen, it's true from an organizational standpoint that's our strongest and deepest position. So You have to use that advantage to shore up other defecincies such as Center, and goalie depth.
Not entirely home grown but something similiar to San Jose would be ideal

Four of their top six D are home grown-Hannan,Carle,Vlasic and Ehrhoff

McLaren was acquired by SJ when he was 25 years old and is now a staple on that team

Rivet was acquired at the trading deadline

This is with Brad Stuart(#1 in 1998) being traded to Boston in the Thornton trade,Jeff Jillson(#1 in 99) traded to Boston(again)in a three way deal bwtn SJ,Boston and Montreal for McLaren and lost Mike Rathje(#1 in 92) in free agency

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Not entirely home grown but something similiar to San Jose would be ideal

Four of their top six D are home grown-Hannan,Carle,Vlasic and Ehrhoff

McLaren was acquired by SJ when he was 25 years old and is now a staple on that team

Rivet was acquired at the trading deadline

This is with Brad Stuart(#1 in 1998) being traded to Boston in the Thornton trade,Jeff Jillson(#1 in 99) traded to Boston(again)in a three way deal bwtn SJ,Boston and Montreal for McLaren and lost Mike Rathje(#1 in 92) in free agency
Hannan is an UFA, maybe San Jose dont resign him and resign Rivet instead and have a young kid in Hannan's place.

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Not entirely home grown but something similiar to San Jose would be ideal

Four of their top six D are home grown-Hannan,Carle,Vlasic and Ehrhoff

McLaren was acquired by SJ when he was 25 years old and is now a staple on that team

Rivet was acquired at the trading deadline

This is with Brad Stuart(#1 in 1998) being traded to Boston in the Thornton trade,Jeff Jillson(#1 in 99) traded to Boston(again)in a three way deal bwtn SJ,Boston and Montreal for McLaren and lost Mike Rathje(#1 in 92) in free agency
Or the Islanders in '96: McCabe, Kasparitis, Pilon, Lachance and Berard were all drafted (not Berard technically, but practically) and developed by the Isles, and Kenny Jonsson was traded for at the age of 21.

It all has to do with talent.

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Or the Islanders in '96: McCabe, Kasparitis, Pilon, Lachance and Berard were all drafted (not Berard technically, but practically) and developed by the Isles, and Kenny Jonsson was traded for at the age of 21.

It all has to do with talent.
Or Nashville w/Hamhuis,Suter and Weber.They traded Parent in the Forsberg deal but still have another young D man in the system who will play for them next season in Kevin Klein.Plus Cody Franson

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Not entirely home grown but something similiar to San Jose would be ideal

Four of their top six D are home grown-Hannan,Carle,Vlasic and Ehrhoff

McLaren was acquired by SJ when he was 25 years old and is now a staple on that team

Rivet was acquired at the trading deadline

This is with Brad Stuart(#1 in 1998) being traded to Boston in the Thornton trade,Jeff Jillson(#1 in 99) traded to Boston(again)in a three way deal bwtn SJ,Boston and Montreal for McLaren and lost Mike Rathje(#1 in 92) in free agency
I agree, that was my point. the majority of our future blue-liners will be home grown, but I'm sure we will still acquire the others through other means. IMO Mara could be that 6th guy though.

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05-03-2007, 01:16 PM
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I agree, that was my point. the majority of our future blue-liners will be home grown, but I'm sure we will still acquire the others through other means. IMO Mara could be that 6th guy though.
id keep mara for 3-4 years, he is only 27 and can help on the PP. Rozsival id keep for 2-3 more years, he will help on the PP and played well and underrated. Malik or Rachunek can be dealt for an ECHL player and ill be happy.

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Malik's contract expires after next season
Right. So, he'll be a pending UFA come the February 2008 deadline, which is exactly what the GMs want - an expiring contract. And let's face it - Malik is having outstanding +/- stat season in and season out (nevermind the value of the stat), sound positionally, good 1st pass... I mean, what's for another GM not to like about him? But either way, he's gone after the 2007-2008 season. I wouldn't want to sign a FA to replace Malik because I would want to give a Hartford kid a chance. And I feel that we should give benefit of the doubt to our youngsters. I've always felt jealous of teams with home-grown cores. I wish for our Rangers to be such a team.

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Has Sauer even been signed yet? I don't remember him doing so. Correct me if wrong.

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