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What FA Would you desire the most?

View Poll Results: What Fa do you desire the most?
Chris Drury 82 52.90%
Peter Forsberg 4 2.58%
Ryan Smyth 6 3.87%
Daniel Briere 12 7.74%
Sheldon Souray 19 12.26%
Brad Stuart 7 4.52%
Scott Gomez 25 16.13%
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05-08-2007, 05:19 PM
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Pass on Forsberg. I want Drury. Wouldn't mind Rafalski either.

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05-08-2007, 05:25 PM
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I like the way you are thinking, Slim, except:

1) I don't think Forsberg will come to NYR to play third line when he can be 2nd or 1st line elsewhere
2) Your d-men seem to be a bit inexperienced. After missing a big chunk of this season to injury, I just don't think Baranka is going to be NHL ready by Setpember/October.
3) I'd lose Pock (and I really like the kid) before buying out Malik.

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05-08-2007, 05:26 PM
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I like the idea of signing Forsberg to a one year deal. Give him something similar to what we gave shanny last year. Maybe 3 Mill with incentives up to 5.8 mill. Perfect one year solution until Dubinsky is ready for big minutes. Don't forget Anisimov, aren't we bringing him over to play with the pack this year? He could be in the same spot as Dubinsky next off season.

Buy out Malik- 2.5 off the books and trade Rachunek 1.8. Total 4.3 Mill. That will pay for Forsberg.

Resign Nylander 2 years at 4 Mill per and Shanny at 1 year 4 Mill.

Deal off Hossa, Betts, Rachunek, Immonen, and one of Orr and Hollweg for some solid prospects or to move up to a nice spot in the draft.

Just love the idea of having 4 lines that can score... similar to the Sabres.

Straka-Nylander-Jagr (Great Chemistry, Love playing together, Keep them happy)
Callahan-Avery-Shanahan (Shamrock Line back together)
Dawes-Forsberg-Bourret (Let the two kids grow together, add a Great Vet to lead them)
Prucha-Cullen-Byers (Solid two way line- that can score)
Hollweg/Orr


Tyutin-Girardi
Baranka-Rosival
Staal-Mara
Pock

Lundquist
Montoya

Straka, Shanahan, Forsberg, Mara, Rosival all on one year deals
Jagr, Nylander, and Pock on two year deals.

Perfect line up to make another solid run in the playoffs... but keeping spots open for the future. You have to remeber that we have so many young players... coming up Anisimov, Pyatt, Dupont, Jessimen, Korpikoski, Sanguinetti, Sauer... just to name a few.

It also leaves spots open for some great Young UFAs that will come in the next two or three offseasons
glad im not the only one!

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05-08-2007, 05:31 PM
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They are not going to change the makeup of this team that drastically. If that is what some of you are thinking you can forget it. They were 12 seconds from being up 3-2 in the series at one point. There will be some changes, but nothing drastic, no major overhaul unless they get a terrific trade worked out.

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05-08-2007, 05:39 PM
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I'd say no to Forsberg. He is always hurt, I don't like the idea of paying a lot of money to play about 65 games max, even if his salary doesn't count against the cap for some of the time.

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05-08-2007, 06:11 PM
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They are not going to change the makeup of this team that drastically. If that is what some of you are thinking you can forget it. They were 12 seconds from being up 3-2 in the series at one point. There will be some changes, but nothing drastic, no major overhaul unless they get a terrific trade worked out.
I agree. It is a matter of ading maybe one or two pieces to make this team complete.

However, I did say that last year too!

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05-08-2007, 07:36 PM
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I'm a big fan of Souray..imagining that PP with him and Rozsival blasting shots from the point is rather exciting. He will come at a price though, but I'd much rather see him out there for more money than Malik or Rachunek.

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05-08-2007, 07:43 PM
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Any Souray fans, check his plus/minus. You will be in for a rude awakening

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05-08-2007, 07:49 PM
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Straka-Nylander-Jagr (Great Chemistry, Love playing together, Keep them happy)
Callahan-Avery-Shanahan (Shamrock Line back together)
Dawes-Forsberg-Bourret (Let the two kids grow together, add a Great Vet to lead them)
Prucha-Cullen-Byers (Solid two way line- that can score)
Hollweg/Orr
Forsberg on the third line? That seems like a waste to me

I really wanted Drury because of his overall reliability but I think Ola had a good point in saying that hes just not a good playmaker. I don't really like Briere but I agree he can make the line he plays on look better than it is. Scott Gomez would probably be my number 1 choice since he is a little of both. I can't see him coming over here though as he hates this team, so that's probably out of the question.

Eh, whatever. I'll be happy with most of the choices here irregardless. It's always nice to see a fresh face

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05-08-2007, 07:50 PM
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Any Souray fans, check his plus/minus. You will be in for a rude awakening
Yeah but I am honestly not a fan of +/-. I mean, Malik was a +32 and a combined +60 the past two seasons..that tells you all you need to know.

Put Souray with a defensive specialist like Tyutin or Girardi and that -28 will drop.

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05-08-2007, 07:53 PM
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Yeah but I am honestly not a fan of +/-. I mean, Malik was a +32 and a combined +60 the past two seasons..that tells you all you need to know.

Put Souray with a defensive specialist like Tyutin or Girardi and that -28 will drop.
Yeah but you dont become -28 on accident. It is not very flukey. You have to remember that Malik is out there with Jagr every shift. Souray did not play on a horrible team. I just dont think becoming -28 happens by mistake. It kind of shows you are a liability

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Yeah but you dont become -28 on accident. It is not very flukey. You have to remember that Malik is out there with Jagr every shift. Souray did not play on a horrible team. I just dont think becoming -28 happens by mistake. It kind of shows you are a liability
You could have Souray play on Jagr's line too and that number will drop. He's not the perfect defenseman and even though I'm not a +/- fan, -28 is pretty brutal, but I think I could put up with something a bit lower than that (say -10) to have his presence on the PP.

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No no no no no.

The only one on that list I would even consider is Drury.

We do NOT need a ufa d man.

You can have a lucky year, a lucky two years is reaching.

Lets lay off of Malik already. You don't become +130 over your career by luck.

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05-08-2007, 08:12 PM
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Drury. To this day I still have no idea why the Avs ever traded him.
IF there had to be ONE UFA, I would state Drury. I think that the returning team will most likely look like the one that plaid in the playoffs, except for one of Pock, Staal or Baranka playing instead of Rachunek. If Hossa is jetisoned, there is room for one UFA. The most obvious spot is the 2nd line center.

However, one cannot understate enough the need to integrate younger players into the top 2 lines.

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You could have Souray play on Jagr's line too and that number will drop. He's not the perfect defenseman and even though I'm not a +/- fan, -28 is pretty brutal, but I think I could put up with something a bit lower than that (say -10) to have his presence on the PP.
I just dont think it is necessary tosign a guy for 6-7 mill./yr for 4 years just because of a 100 mph slapshot. I think we need to think about team defense first. Pllus he is only gonna get worse. I dont think they should spend tons of money for a defensive liability to worsen their team when they could spend it on someone who can make a huge diffference. Despite all his PP goals, point shots are overrated and a 100 mph shooter is not needed. Look at Detroits PP, it is nasty because of strategy, not talent

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For what the asking price is Briere gives the most bang for the buck...So that is why I voted for him...

I'd rank the forwards
Briere
Gomez
Smyth
Drury

I would love to see both Briere and Smyth added to the lineup...

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Hossa -Nylander -Jagr
Callahan-Forsberg-Shanahan
Dawes- Avery - Bourret
Prucha-Cullen-Byers

Hollweg/Orr/Orts/Betts?

Roszival - Malik
Toots - Girardi
Staal - Mara


Man I love Orts/Bets/Hollweg/Orr but none of those guys can score. They sure can block shots though. Its a tough call there.

Prucha played a checking line back in the Czech. He's just going to have to find that role again or fight it out for more minutes, but either way our 4th line MUST produce some offense next year

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For what the asking price is Briere gives the most bang for the buck...So that is why I voted for him...

I'd rank the forwards
Briere
Gomez
Smyth
Drury

I would love to see both Briere and Smyth added to the lineup...
I question weather Briere will excell outside of Buffalo. I really do.

Gomez will likely EXPLODE once he's free of Hell

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You could have Souray play on Jagr's line too and that number will drop. He's not the perfect defenseman and even though I'm not a +/- fan, -28 is pretty brutal, but I think I could put up with something a bit lower than that (say -10) to have his presence on the PP.

Souray is a CAREER -27 and he originally came up with the Devils which makes that -27 even more scarey imo.

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Souray is a CAREER -27 and he originally came up with the Devils which makes that -27 even more scarey imo.
Again I think that stat is deceiving but that is a little bit concerning. I still think that playing on a top line with Jagr, Nylander and a defensive specialist like Tyutin would benefit him though..although if a bidding war breaks out and it gets to 6 M per year, I would pass.

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I'm gonna have to second the opinion of most others and go with Drury. I think he's the kinda guy that could put up good numbers on a team like the one we have now. We could use a guy that is able to work in front of the cage and bang in the loose pucks. Put him between Shanny (if he comes back) and Callahan and I think you've got magic. Take two guys who can really provide some leadership when the going gets tough and add a touch of enthusiasm from Callahan and you've got a phenomenal second line. I could definitely see them coming out and producing when the first line is being hampered by the oppositions top d-squad.

Gomez would be my second choice, hes fast and scrappy. I don't particularly like Brieres on-ice attitude and I have my doubts about his ability on a team that isn't simply offense, offense and more offense like the Sabres. Forsberg isn't worth the time. He was great but I don't care if he only plays 30 games, he'll still find a way to get injured. Not to mention the amount of minutes hes racking up in the box lately.

I'm torn on Malik honestly. I think he's a decent player but he's built for the pre-lockout NHL and isn't a strong enough skater to really be worth while. I certainly don't believe the reactions he's been getting lately.

I'm anxious to see what Staal can do. We could use another play making d-man. I think Staal / Mara is a good fit as well.


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A guy like Drury would be the perfect fit for the character of this team.

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The most imperative thing is to recall that it is very important to start to integrate younger players into the top-6 forwards. The Jagrs, Shannys, Strakas & Nylanders are on about a two-year window. After that, you do not want to be in a situation where you failed to develop anyone to step up.

That is what made Detroit so good. They developed Datsyuk & Zetterberg to step in when the older players retired. The Ragners need to do the same thing.

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I voted for Drury. Gomez would be a option, but I also got to thinking about acquiring what we need via trade. We have depth and duplicate prospects now. Montoya, Dawes and Prucha come to mind immediately as possible trade bait in a package deal for a young stud. Add in a Baranka and you may have the makings of an attractive package for someone like Vinny L. from Tampa or some other similar player.

Everyone screams for goalie protection but who really has it? Montoya may actually be more valuable as trade material then as a backup. Dawes can be replaced by Korpikoski or Bourett, Prucha by Callahan. Dfense seems our strong point. Any trade we make could net us an goalie as a throw in for the depth freaks.

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Somebody is going to DRASTICALLY overpay for Drury this offseason, I just hope it's not the NYR.

Why do I have the feeling he's going to hover around 20g and 30a next season? We have guys who can put up those numbers for half the price.

For me, Souray would be the option. It's just that he would add an entirely new element to the attack. We've seen it to a lesser extent with Mara and Rachunek, but when the D collapses low on JJ and co., the guys on the point are just in an ideal position to blast away. Souray would take what we see from these two to the next level. He put up 20+ g this year as the focal point, I think he'll be just fine feeding off JJ's passes from the half boards.

Rafalski would be nice too, but I think Souray's presence (offensively and physically) is needed more than Rafalski's puck moving.

Rozsival, Malik, Tyutin, Girardi, Souray, Staal, Pock

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